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Today I Saw a Weeping Palestinian Man Holding a Plastic Bag of Meat: It Was His Son

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posted on Jun, 24 2015 @ 09:13 PM
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I just read this letter by Brian Eno (artist, musical innovator, record producer for artists ranging from David Bowie to U2 and Coldplay) It was originally published in August 2014, He calls it "Brian Eno’s letter to America: WHY? I just don’t get it"


Today I saw a picture of a weeping Palestinian man holding a plastic carrier bag of meat. It was his son. He’d been shredded (the hospital’s word) by an Israeli missile attack – apparently using their fab new weapon, flechette bombs. You probably know what those are – hundreds of small steel darts packed around explosive which tear the flesh off humans. The boy was Mohammed Khalaf al-Nawasra. He was 4 years old.


I've been a fan of Brian's since way back in the Roxy Music Days, I found the letter to be well written and to the point about "Peace Process" between Israel and the Palestinians, with first hand experience.


As for the Peace Process: Israel wants the Process but not the Peace. While ‘the process’ is going on the settlers continue grabbing land and building their settlements… and then when the Palestinians finally erupt with their pathetic fireworks they get hammered and shredded with state-of-the-art missiles and depleted uranium shells because Israel ‘has a right to defend itself’ ( whereas Palestine clearly doesn’t). And the settler militias are always happy to lend a fist or rip up someone’s olive grove while the army looks the other way.


You can read the entire letter here It is short.




posted on Jun, 24 2015 @ 09:17 PM
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a reply to: ugmold

War.
War never changes.


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posted on Jun, 24 2015 @ 09:23 PM
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posted on Jun, 24 2015 @ 09:27 PM
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*snip*

Israel has probably already killed the rest of his family so your comment is really null & void

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posted on Jun, 24 2015 @ 09:35 PM
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What a stupid comment. What if that was your kid? Show some respect.
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posted on Jun, 24 2015 @ 09:36 PM
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a reply to: ugmold

I saw something similar in 2001.


Ahlam Tamimi, who was charged as an accomplice, scouted for a target before leading Izz al-Din Shuheil al-Masri, the suicide bomber, to the Sbarro restaurant. They arrived just before 2:00 pm, when the restaurant was filled with customers, "dozens of women, children and babies"and pedestrian traffic outside was at its peak. Tamimi departed before Al-Masri, thought to be carrying a rigged guitar case or wearing an explosive belt weighing 5 to 10 kilograms, containing explosives, nails, nuts and bolts, detonated his bomb.[3]







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Just a reminder both sides have a long and bloody history and they both need to apply peaceful tactics .

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posted on Jun, 24 2015 @ 09:39 PM
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Horrible. These new weapons aren't being designed to kill terrorists but palestinian citizens.

You wonder why? You wonder why the Main Stream American Media doesnt' carry it.

One of the best Armies in the world with incredible technological abilites with one of the best spy agencies in the world and they feel the need to kill children. Way to go Israel. Great country.



posted on Jun, 24 2015 @ 09:54 PM
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The world is insane. Humans are insane. It needs to end.



posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 12:59 AM
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Neither side is blameless in this situation, yet even on a forum fighting via words will ensue. Doesn't spell well for peace any time soon I guess.


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posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 05:29 AM
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People are starting to despise the Israeli BS now. I hope it doesn't take much longer until the world stops them from complete genocide of the Palestinians. I've lost all words to describe the Zionist Jews.....it's crazy they think they're in the right when the entire world has told them no. Who the hell are they to take away livelyhood and demolish homes for their perfect land? Pieces of crap if you ask me. The world saved the Jews from the nazis and now they start on the same nazi path of taking and changing what they see fit. Pathetic. We're all humans the only difference is evil and good.



posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 05:42 AM
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originally posted by: Greathouse
a reply to: ugmold

I saw something similar in 2001.


Ahlam Tamimi, who was charged as an accomplice, scouted for a target before leading Izz al-Din Shuheil al-Masri, the suicide bomber, to the Sbarro restaurant. They arrived just before 2:00 pm, when the restaurant was filled with customers, "dozens of women, children and babies"and pedestrian traffic outside was at its peak. Tamimi departed before Al-Masri, thought to be carrying a rigged guitar case or wearing an explosive belt weighing 5 to 10 kilograms, containing explosives, nails, nuts and bolts, detonated his bomb.[3]







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Just a reminder both sides have a long and bloody history and they both need to apply peaceful tactics .

How can you compare what one side does to the other in the Palestine, it's nowhere near tit for tat...Hamas's retaliations dont even come close to the destruction Israel rains down on these peaceful peoples. Israel wont be happy until they have pushed the Arab into the sea.




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posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 06:20 AM
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a reply to: Thorneblood

of course it's a War:


a War of extermination of an entire People.

Unfortunately, in this "WAR", only one people haves all the "weapons"!



Yes it is a war... A war against freedom.
Bansky art
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posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 06:31 AM
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a reply to: Soloprotocol

What exactly was Hamas " retaliating " for? Was it even Hamas, since it didn't happen in Gaza?



posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 08:14 AM
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a reply to: ugmold

"The house of war" got it's name for a reason - they are the formidable experts in all things human death and just like automobile companies they bring out better ship year after year after year.

and no, I did not get the US and Israel confused in regards to that nickname.



posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 08:21 AM
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It's nowhere near tit for tat if you don't look at the entire history . Hey I wasn't keeping score I was denouncing both sides. Israel does do significant damage. But Hamas has people put on suicide belts and blowup buses and Pizza parlors Schools and malls purposely targeting innocent civilians in Preplanned civilian attacks .

Then Israel bombs the crap out of them both sides are at fault. People need to open their eyes and realize there are two villains in this situation not one . Here's a list from 2001. 40 attacks

Name Date Location Death toll Notes
Netanya centre bombing January 1, 2001 Netanya 60 injured Hamas claimed responsibility.
Tayibe Bridge bombing January 30, 2001 Tayibe 2 injured Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Beit Yisrael bombing February 8, 2001 Jerusalem 2 injured Hamas claimed responsibility.
Mei Ami junction bombing March 1, 2001 Vadi Ara 1 Hamas claimed responsibility.
Netanya bombing March 4, 2001 Netanya 3 Hamas claimed responsibility.
Talpiot industrial zone bombing March 27, 2001 Jerusalem 7 injured Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Egged bus 6 bombing March 27, 2001 French Hill, Jerusalem 28 injured Hamas claimed responsibility.
Mifgash Shalom attack March 28, 2001 Mifgash Shalom gas station, Kfar Saba 2 Hamas claimed responsibility.
Kfar Saba bombing April 22, 2001 Kfar Saba 1 Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Or Yehuda bombing April 23, 2001 Near Ben Gurion Airport 8 injured Hamas claimed responsibility.
Nablus school bus bombing April 29, 2001 Nablus, West Bank None Hamas claimed responsibility.
HaSharon Mall suicide bombing May 18, 2001 HaSharon shopping mall, Netanya 5 Hamas claimed responsibility.
Hadera Mall bombing May 25, 2001 Hadera None Hamas claimed responsibility.
Hadera bus station suicide bombing May 25, 2001 Central bus station, Hadera 65 injured 2 Palestinians within a car bomb. Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Jerusalem Center bombing May 27, 2001 Jerusalem None PFLP claimed responsibility.
Jaffa Road bombing May 27, 2001 Jerusalem 30 injured Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Netanya school bombing May 30, 2001 Netanya 8 injured Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Dolphinarium discotheque suicide bombing June 1, 2001 Tel Aviv 21 Hamas claimed responsibility.[10]
Dugit bombing June 22, 2001 Gaza Strip 2 Booby trapped car's explosion. Hamas claimed responsibility.
Yehud suburb bombing July 2, 2001 Tel Aviv 6 injured Explosion of two separate bombs. PFLP claimed responsibility.
Kissufim bombing July 9, 2001 Southern Gaza Strip crossing point None Explosion of two separate bombs. Hamas claimed responsibility.
Binyamina train station suicide bombing July 16, 2001 Binyamina 2 Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Moshav Beka'ot bombing August 8, 2001 Northern Jordan Valley 1 injured Hamas claimed responsibility.
Sbarro restaurant suicide bombing August 9, 2001 Downtown Jerusalem 15 Carried out by Hamas together with Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
Wall-Street Restaurant bombing August 12, 2001 Kiryat Motzkin 21 injured Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Russian Compound bombing August 21, 2001 Downtown Jerusalem 1 injured Hamas claimed responsibility.
Jerusalem car bombings September 3, 2001 Jerusalem 3 injured Series of car bombs.
Hanevi'im street bombing September 4, 2001 Jerusalem 20 injured Hamas claimed responsibility.
Nahariya train station suicide bombing September 9, 2001 Nahariya train station 3 Suicide bomber was an Arab Israeli citizen. Hamas claimed responsibility.
Beit Lid junction bombing September 9, 2001 Near Netanya 17 injured Hamas claimed responsibility.
Talpiot neighborhood bombing October 1, 2001 Jerusalem None Hamas claimed responsibility.
1st Erez Crossing attack October 7, 2001 Erez Passage near Gaza None Hamas claimed responsibility.
Kibbutz Shluhot bombing October 7, 2001 Kibbutz Shluhot 1 Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
2nd Erez Crossing attack November 26, 2001 Gaza Strip 2 injured Hamas claimed responsibility.
1st Egged bus 823 bombing November 29, 2001 Wadi Ara Junction 3 Carried out by Palestinian Islamic Jihad together with Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades.
Ben Yehuda Street Bombing December 1, 2001 Downtown Jerusalem 11 Hamas claimed responsibility.
Haifa bus 16 suicide bombing December 2, 2001 Haifa 15 Hamas claimed responsibility.
Hilton Mamilla bombing December 5, 2001 Mamilla, Jerusalem 11 injured Carried out by Palestinian Islamic Jihad together with Hamas.
Check Post Junction bombing December 9, 2001 Check Post Junction in the direction of Tel Hanan (Haifa area) 30 injured Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Neve Dekalim bombing December 12, 2001 Neve Dekalim



posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 08:28 AM
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Reads like a propaganda piece. Flechette rounds have been around since WWI and are an evolution of grapeshot used previously. Not a new invention.

Bombs loaded with fragments have been around since 1787 when Henry Shrapnel first demonstrated it's effectiveness at Gibraltar.



posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 08:36 AM
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There are many more examples. Palestinian terrorists will do anything to maximise the civilian casualty count.
These are some of them:


Nail bomber kills three in Israeli market.
Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat came under renewed pressure last night to rein in militant groups after a suicide bomber killed three Israelis and injured more than 50 in the coastal city of Netanya. The attack was launched in an outdoor vegetable and fruit market where the bomber blew himself up between the rows of stalls. After the explosion a large, angry crowd gathered at the scene, some chanting: "Death to the Arabs."
Police said the Palestinian terrorist was wearing an Israeli army uniform and had a bomb, packed with nails and bolts, strapped to his waist. Medical workers said at least one person was in critical condition and 10 were in a serious condition.
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The Afula Bus suicide bombing attack was planned by Hamas chief bombmaker Yahya Ayyash, who began to plan suicide bombings within Israel in 1992. Ayyash rigged a 1987 Opel Ascona with seven gas cylinders, five anti-personal hand grenades, and wrapped the bomb in a rucksack containing 1,100 carpenter nails.
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In 1994, Hani Abed, a Palestinian Islamic Jihad operative, brokered an alliance between Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad. (Hani was later assassinated by Israel). As part of the alliance, Hamas's chief bombmaker, Yahya Ayyash, built the three bombs used by Islamic Jihad for the Beit Lid suicide attack. Each was made using plumber's pipe (one foot long and eight inches (203 mm) wide) and five kilograms of military-grade TNT, surrounded by nails.On 22 January 1995, at approximately 9:30 am, a Palestinian suicide bomber, disguised as an Israeli soldier, approached the bus stop at the Beit Lid junction in central Israel. The bus stop was full of Israeli soldiers who were on their way to their bases after their weekend vacation. The suicide bomber walked into the crowd and detonated the hidden explosives belt he was wearing. About three minutes later a second suicide bomber exploded at the same spot, killing and injuring people wounded in the first explosion, as well as bystanders who had rushed to the scene to assist the victims of the first explosion.
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2001 28 March: Three people killed and several others severely injured in a nail bomb attack near a bus stop close to the central Israeli town of Kfar Saba. Hamas admits responsibility. G Mar 28, 2001 - Two teenagers were killed and four injured, one critically, in a suicide bombing at the Mifgash Hashalom ("peace stop") gas station several hundred meters from an IDF roadblock near the entrance to Kalkilya, east of Kfar Saba. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack.
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Mar 4, 1996 - A suicide bomber detonated a 20-kilogram nail bomb outside Dizengoff Center in Tel-Aviv, killing 12 civilians and one soldier.
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No surprise here, this is the way of islamic jihad. Kill as many as possible.
The fact that the IDF uses the same barbaric tactic is unfortunate and shameful. I'm sure there are ways to kill the terrorists without wiping out everything around.
As for the letter, this guy is sincere but very naive. I respect his care for human life, but his view of the situation is one sided and very poorly informed.



posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 08:39 AM
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«In 1948, the state of Israel was established by methodically dispossessing and ethnically cleansing more than 750,000 native Palestinian people in order to create an exclusivist Jewish state.

To this day, Israel has denied Palestinian refugees, currently exceeding more than 7 million people, their internationally recognized right to return to their homes.

Israel continues unabated and with impunity with its colonial and apartheid designs to further dispossess, oppress, and ultimately ethnically cleanse Palestinians from their homeland and still on a daily basis, they expel native Palestinians from their homes in Jerusalem and the Negev.
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One of those "villains" is the consequence of the perpetuating actions of oppression, siege, occupation and murder from the other "Villain". It's time to stop it and correct it.



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