Senate passes trade 'fast track,' handing Obama a major victory

It's more "official" now.

The Senate passed the fast-track legislation.

I'm also hearing Nancy Pelosi (House Minority Leader) is now in favor even after being against this before.

I wonder how much of all the pending trade deals' "leaks" and speculation is true?

Wouldn't it be something if the TPP actually works for the good of the majority of Citizens everywhere (assuming those pacts actually become valid).

The Senate voted Wednesday to give President Barack Obama "fast track" authority to negotiate trade deals—one of the final steps in a long political battle that pitted the White House against House Democrats.

The bill—which passed 60-38 in the Senate—will be sent to the president's desk later this afternoon, but it was not immediately clear when he would sign it.

Unions and most congressional Democrats say free-trade deals cost U.S. jobs and reward countries that pollute and mistreat workers. Obama and most Republican leaders say U.S. products must reach broader markets.


Senate passes trade 'fast track,' handing Obama a major victory

Obama and most Republican leaders say U.S. products must reach broader markets.

Bipartisan legislation? It's about frickin time. Congrats to both.

Did you think this WOULDN'T happen eventually? And "if the TPP actually works for the good of the majority of Citizens everywhere" why the secrecy?

a reply to: xuenchen

Back in the day he used to negotiate crack deals. He's come a long way.

Here's Nancy...

Pelosi Reverses on Worker-Aid Plan as Fast Track Nears Passage

"worker-aid" ??

But they keep saying the trade pacts are good for workers and jobs ?

Anything done in secret is not a good thing and this was done in secret. Behind closed doors, in dark, dank quarters they plotted the enslavement of the nation.

originally posted by: intrepid

Obama and most Republican leaders say U.S. products must reach broader markets.

Bipartisan legislation? It's about frickin time. Congrats to both.

Proof that people can be screwed from both the left and right... At the same time.

originally posted by: HUMBLEONE
Anything done in secret is not a good thing and this was done in secret. Behind closed doors, in dark, dank quarters they plotted the enslavement of the nation.

Dude, that ship sailed when the Beatles were still together.

originally posted by: Blueracer
Did you think this WOULDN'T happen eventually? And "if the TPP actually works for the good of the majority of Citizens everywhere" why the secrecy?

The "un-official" reason for the secrecy is because the future "partners" and the negotiators are insisting on secrecy to avoid speculation.

In other words, get ready for foreign pressure on U.S. policies.

I hate this government, I really do.

Traitors. ...president and every congressman that wanted this abberation

originally posted by: xuenchen
In other words, get ready for foreign pressure on U.S. policies.

Being on the receiving end forever....... ain't Karma a bitch?

Seriosly...what are you saying? This is absolutely beyond the scope of our republics constitution. ..how can you glibbly accept this? Am I misding sarcasm?




Traitors. ...president and every congressman that wanted this abberation

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: xuenchen
In other words, get ready for foreign pressure on U.S. policies.

Being on the receiving end forever....... ain't Karma a bitch?

I understand, that, being Canadian, it's funny to watch our country burn.

As a moderator, though? Maybe you should show a little more class. To some of us, this is akin to a national tragedy.

Snip from page 103 of the actual document passed that the president is going to sign.

Just maybe there is some protection for US law standing above all else. I'm absolutely shocked as I thought the bill was a sellout. Obama reads this and he'll veto it for sure.


SEC. 108. SOVEREIGNTY.
4 (a) UNITED STATES LAW TO PREVAIL IN EVENT OF
5 CONFLICT.—No provision of any trade agreement entered
6 into under section 103(b), nor the application of any such
7 provision to any person or circumstance, that is incon-
8 sistent with any law of the United States, any State of
9 the United States, or any locality of the United States
10 shall have effect.
11 (b) AMENDMENTS OR MODIFICATIONS OF UNITED
12 STATES LAW.—No provision of any trade agreement en-
13 tered into under section 103(b) shall prevent the United
14 States, any State of the United States, or any locality of
15 the United States from amending or modifying any law
16 of the United States, that State, or that locality (as the
17 case may be).

Smoke and mirrors! All media is upon a frenzy over a flag! While this passes the house and Senate.
Where is ATS on this? Have all the U.S.A. posters been brainwashed and stuck on the racial division (divide and conquer) routine while something as serious as this TPP crap might be our road to ruin?

Maybe it's cause no-one knows what to say and post cause of all the secrecy to this?

Between this and the whole south PC crap, maybe this is what Jade helm is really about? maybe all the southern states will succeed from the union?

IDK, but you would think this thread would be the top story on ATS?
And it should be right now!

a reply to: tkwasny

Thank you for this.

If this is for real, it means US law trumps all. Best news I've read all day.

originally posted by: tkwasny
Snip from page 103 of the actual document passed that the president is going to sign.

Just maybe there is some protection for US law standing above all else. I'm absolutely shocked as I thought the bill was a sellout. Obama reads this and he'll veto it for sure.


SEC. 108. SOVEREIGNTY.
4 (a) UNITED STATES LAW TO PREVAIL IN EVENT OF
5 CONFLICT.—No provision of any trade agreement entered
6 into under section 103(b), nor the application of any such
7 provision to any person or circumstance, that is incon-
8 sistent with any law of the United States, any State of
9 the United States, or any locality of the United States
10 shall have effect.
11 (b) AMENDMENTS OR MODIFICATIONS OF UNITED
12 STATES LAW.—No provision of any trade agreement en-
13 tered into under section 103(b) shall prevent the United
14 States, any State of the United States, or any locality of
15 the United States from amending or modifying any law
16 of the United States, that State, or that locality (as the
17 case may be).

Do you really think Obama will not sign this? Or are you just wishful thinking?
I think he will and I think this was his purpose all along, to be the last president and first dictator of the U.S.A.

a reply to: TomLawless

These days everything is a national tragedy to some Americans.

a reply to: tkwasny

That's a good find.

But many would think new "Laws" can be passed (or old laws repealed and amended) in favor of "other" nations and/or corporations?

They'll pass those just like this was passed.

A stove match swinging above a stone.