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British scientists came to Iceland with a machine that reportedly keeps the weather temporarily sunny and dry, and it was used for the Secret Solstice festival.
Vísir reports that this is actually the second year the scientists have come here with the express purpose of ensuring good weather at the festival. While it is unknown how the machine works, it allegedly changes the air pressure in an area for a limited time, thereby reducing the chances that clouds will gather.
Jakob Frímann Magnússon, one of the organisers of Secret Solstice, would not comment in detail about what the device is or how it works the way it does.
Last year it was speculated that the device in question could be a cloudbuster, a device invented by Wilhelm Reich that purportedly utilised “cosmic orgone engineering” in order to disperse clouds.
As the weather for Secret Solstice was fair both this and last year, there might be something to the device – or it may have simply been that Icelanders were greeted with warm, sunny weather, which has been known to happen from time to time.
Amid much suspicion about the sexual aspects of orgonomy and the general lack of supporting data outside the Orgonon campus in Maine, Reich had much of his writing and equipment seized by the United States Food and Drug Administration in 1954.
Some of his writings were taken to the local garbage dump and destroyed in the incinerator, which allows Reich's modern followers to point and say "They burned his books!". The heavy-handed court injunction, which allowed the FDA to take such action against Reich, was handed down because Reich didn't appear in court to defend himself. His decision not to appear in court stemmed from a combination of personal friction with his lawyer, and a sense of himself as a Christlike martyr figure unjustly persecuted by those who were emotionally incapable of accepting the obvious truths of his discoveries
originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Vasa Croe
You think there's something to "orgone energy"?
Really?
And oh my they burned his books...the nazis did that! Omg.
Amid much suspicion about the sexual aspects of orgonomy and the general lack of supporting data outside the Orgonon campus in Maine, Reich had much of his writing and equipment seized by the United States Food and Drug Administration in 1954.
Some of his writings were taken to the local garbage dump and destroyed in the incinerator, which allows Reich's modern followers to point and say "They burned his books!". The heavy-handed court injunction, which allowed the FDA to take such action against Reich, was handed down because Reich didn't appear in court to defend himself. His decision not to appear in court stemmed from a combination of personal friction with his lawyer, and a sense of himself as a Christlike martyr figure unjustly persecuted by those who were emotionally incapable of accepting the obvious truths of his discoveries
rationalwiki.org...
On 23 August six tons of his books, journals and papers were burned in the 25th Street public incinerator in New York, the Gansevoort incinerator. The burned material included copies of several of his books, including The Sexual Revolution, Character Analysis and The Mass Psychology of Fascism. Though these had been published in German before Reich ever discussed orgone, he had added mention of it to the English editions, so they were caught by the injunction.[140] As with the accumulators, the FDA was supposed only to observe the destruction. The psychiatrist Victor Sobey (d. 1995), an associate of Reich's, wrote: "All the expenses and labor had to be provided by the [Orgone Institute] Press. A huge truck with three to help was hired. I felt like people who, when they are to be executed, are made to dig their own graves first and are then shot and thrown in. We carried box after box of the literature."[141] It has been cited as one of the worst examples of censorship in U.S. history.[142]
On 5 June 1956 two FDA officials arrived at Orgonon to supervise the destruction of the accumulators. Most of them had been sold at that point and another 50 were with Silvert in New York. Only three were at Orgonon. The FDA agents were not allowed to destroy them, only to supervise the destruction, so Reich's friends and his son, Peter, chopped them up with axes as the agents watched.[137] Once they were destroyed, Reich placed an American flag on top of them.[138]
On 26 June the agents returned to supervise the destruction of the promotional material, including 251 copies of Reich's books.[138] The American Civil Liberties Union issued a press release criticizing the book burning, although coverage of the release was poor, and Reich ended up asking them not to help because he was annoyed that they had failed to criticize the destruction of the accumulators. In England A. S. Neill and the poet Herbert Read signed a letter of protest, but it was never published. On 23 July the remaining accumulators in New York were destroyed by S. A. Collins and Sons, who had built them.[139]
originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
a reply to: network dude
There's this old saying that goes..."Where the sun always shines, there's a desert below"
Perpetual sunshine is not desirable at all.
But I'm extremely doubtful about this technology in the first place so....
According to Sharaf, p. 379, Bangor's Daily News reported on 24 July 1953: "Dr. Reich and three assistants set up their 'rain-making device off the shore of Grand Lake, near the Bangor hydro-electric dam ... The device, a set of hollow tubes, suspended over a small cylinder, connected by a cable, conducted a 'drawing' operation for about an hour and ten minutes ...
"According to a reliable source in Ellsworth the following climactic changes took place in that city on the night of July 6 and the early morning of July 7: 'Rain began to fall shortly after ten o'clock Monday evening, first as a drizzle and then by midnight as a gentle, steady rain. Rain continued throughout the night, and a rainfall of 0.24 inches was recorded in Ellsworth the following morning.'
"A puzzled witness to the 'rain-making' process said: 'The queerest looking clouds you ever saw began to form soon after they got the thing rolling.' And later the same witness said the scientists were able to change the course of the wind by manipulation of the device."
originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Vasa Croe
He was a psychiatrist, some of his work was well received under peer review...so why wasn't his cloud buster??
Maybe because it's a load of baloney.
What's a psychiatrist doing building a device that stops rain? What's next a physiotherapist building a particle accelerator??
And uhh the 1950's wasn't particularly liberal about things like sex, which a lot of his work was based around. Perhaps he should have gone to court when he was supposed to?
originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Saudi Arabia have this technology and openly admit to using it, for pulling rain from other parts of the ME to their own lands.
So I have to agree with you.
newsfeed.time.com...
So yes, weather modification technology is certainly available or at least being studied.
~Tenth
As part of a secret program to control the weather in the Middle East, scientists working for the United Arab Emirates government artificially created rain where rain is generally nowhere to be found. The $11 million project, which began in July, put steel lampshade-looking ionizers in the desert to produce charged particles. The negatively charged ions rose with the hot air, attracting dust. Moisture then condensed around the dust and eventually produced a rain cloud. A bunch of rain clouds.
originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Saudi Arabia have this technology and openly admit to using it, for pulling rain from other parts of the ME to their own lands.
So I have to agree with you.
newsfeed.time.com...
So yes, weather modification technology is certainly available or at least being studied.
~Tenth
originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: tothetenthpower
Yes, plenty of weather modification techniques are out there, orgone isn't one of them.
originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: Chadwickus
I'm not familiar enough with either honestly to make an informed decision. I just wanted to point out to those who thought Weather Modification was not really happening, that it is, in various forms. Not to be confused with the C/T word we don't discuss for good reasons .
~Tenth