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Marijuana is Medicine "Journal of the American Medical Association" concludes

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posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 03:27 PM
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Huh... well, I don't know quite what to do with information that is not confirming my bias that everything is headed down the drain... maybe smile?

But good news on several levels! Thank you, good sir, for breaking up this info and removing all seeds and stems so it may be ingested smoothly.

Now, back to pondering the mysteries of sunlight on leaves and cheese over nachos...




posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 04:46 PM
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originally posted by: jamespond

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: jamespond
a reply to: Aleister

Not more stoner propaganda!!! Is this all ATS is for these days? Another day another dose of stoner BS, yawn.



Nobody is forcing you to click threads, genius.



I come on the these threads for my own personal amusement, genius. Thanks for your concern.


Your own personal amusement... but you post your nonsense opinion about "stoners" while ignoring the message of the thread.

If that's what you find amusing, you might want to reevaluate your life.



posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: jamespond

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: jamespond
a reply to: Aleister

Not more stoner propaganda!!! Is this all ATS is for these days? Another day another dose of stoner BS, yawn.



Nobody is forcing you to click threads, genius.



I come on the these threads for my own personal amusement, genius. Thanks for your concern.


Your own personal amusement... but you post your nonsense opinion about "stoners" while ignoring the message of the thread.

If that's what you find amusing, you might want to reevaluate your life.


I'm the one posting nonsense??? Yeah right.

Anyway, I wasn't ignoring anything, I read your post and within seconds my logical thought process made me understand that the op was total bs. I sat back, smiled and gave the reply it deserved.

Thank you and good night!



posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 05:40 PM
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originally posted by: jamespond

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: jamespond

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: jamespond
a reply to: Aleister

Not more stoner propaganda!!! Is this all ATS is for these days? Another day another dose of stoner BS, yawn.



Nobody is forcing you to click threads, genius.



I come on the these threads for my own personal amusement, genius. Thanks for your concern.


Your own personal amusement... but you post your nonsense opinion about "stoners" while ignoring the message of the thread.

If that's what you find amusing, you might want to reevaluate your life.


I'm the one posting nonsense??? Yeah right.

Anyway, I wasn't ignoring anything, I read your post and within seconds my logical thought process made me understand that the op was total bs. I sat back, smiled and gave the reply it deserved.

Thank you and good night!


Sometimes I really really hate the internet for giving people a public platform to display their ignorance.



posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 06:00 PM
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a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

Sometimes the problem can be if teenagers combine both the antidepressants AND pot. Doctors have really laid on this "early psychosis from marijuana" rap for many years now. It is the primary method of anti-legalization propaganda. Always, the teenagers getting into the dispensaries, getting sick etc.

I am quite certain that marijuana, on its own without Prozac etc, would have worked wonders for my inspiration, ability to focus, attaining creative and other goals. I find that in the past when I have smoked pot, I tend to have a lot more clear and focused thinking and usually have to write out lists of plans and ideas. Unfortunately, since there has been a history of biochemical imbalance, largely from SSRIs, ironically, and other negative life situations, there is an ambience of paranoia and discomfort associated with even just the "idea" of getting high, and possibly the first portion of the experience itself. But depending on the strain, the high could actually be therapeutic... and make life more interesting (again).



posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 06:17 PM
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originally posted by: nemonimity
This I think is potentially bad news, if they classify marijuana as a medicine it will probably be classified as a drug meaning someones going to patent it or some other non sense. The FDA will probably get to regulate it rather then ATF and in a generation it will be back to being lambasted as an evil, abused and tightly regulated substance. Damn thing is a plant and should be regulated as a crop not a pharmaceutical.

Well, it's impossible to argue that it doesn't have an inebriating effect that can be dangerous in the wrong situations, and reasonably worthy of some kind of regulation. They're not carrots. The difference will always be that as far as it being a drug is concerned, growing marijuana is relatively easy compared to cooking up your own aspirin or Wellbutrin. The FDA still has problems regulating simple herbal supplements that you can find in your local grocery store. Trying to keep tabs on the entire range of marijuana production -- considering its potency and possible potential for abuse -- would be a nightmare to them.

So the middle ground will probably eventually be like what they do with alcohol. Make it legal but regulated along certain lines to keep kids from getting too messed up on it. Kids still get drunk, but at least the responsibility is shifted more toward the parents and not the people who sell alcohol, and the government really only gets involved after there is some kind of property liability problem created (like if somebody crashes their car). That wouldn't be the worst "solution."



posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 06:20 PM
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originally posted by: jamespond
a reply to: Aleister

Not more stoner propaganda!!! Is this all ATS is for these days? Another day another dose of stoner BS, yawn.



Then why post? I found the OP very interesting and informative.
I bet you think all who smoke weed are typical stoners don't you?.



posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 06:30 PM
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originally posted by: jamespond
Not more stoner propaganda!!! Is this all ATS is for these days? Another day another dose of stoner BS, yawn.

Like a lot of things on this site, I see this as an intellectual exercise relating to a change in society. It's interesting to see how after all these years people might realistically deal with a complete legalization of a previously illegal substance/activity. It's curious to see what kind of social structures and systems might arise to accommodate this new thing. It's not quite the same thing as Prohibition, where there was already a social system of bars and taverns and consumption in the home long before drinking alcohol was made illegal and then legalized again. And it's also not quite the same thing as legalizing abortion, where it had to be sideways incorporated into the existing healthcare system.

One positive thing about it that I can see is that the boring and annoying old "stoner propaganda" will finally be put to rest, along with the sort of sneaky/superior attitude a lot of users used to have. I agree that was really tedious.



posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 07:02 PM
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Trust the hitler lovers at the daily mail to attempt to twist the minds of people about this wonderful long used medicinal herb with biased reporting?

Yes I do.

www.dailymail.co.uk... -s-study-finds.html

Just two days ago they start going on about this Bristol university study(which only tested the effect of cannabinoids)which finds there is no medicinal benefits to using cannabis...

Now I wonder who funded this study?
Someone in the pharma industry or tory party I wonder?
Of course the article does not say,which probably means the hitler lovers at the daily mail also got a big payoff to publish such imbecilic disinformation..
I think I will take the word of the Journal of the American medical association in this case.

I have seen people who could not walk due to back pain get back on their feet without pain,and people with frequent epilepsy stop having fits from the use of this plant.

America-you are getting it right about cannabis(finally).
I hope the UK follows suit.

Not a user of cannabis BTW,but it works better for many people than most potentially(and often)deadly pharma synthetics.




posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: Answer

No, it was not sarcasm.

I believe my post should be easily understood by most. Except for those with an attitude problem.


edit on 25-6-2015 by ChiefD because: I thought of something after reading some more posts



posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 08:04 PM
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originally posted by: ChiefD
a reply to: Answer

No, it was not sarcasm.

I believe my post should be easily understood by most. Except for those with an attitude problem.



An attitude problem?

I figured that, surely, a person wouldn't say something so ignorant as "Viagra is just a stupid boner bill with no medical benefit."

You probably don't personally need most medications... does that mean that they don't have a legitimate purpose?

Should men with ED just give up on sex? Should their partners also give up on sex?

Pardon my disbelief but you are generally pretty rational so that statement took me by surprise and I figured that you MUST have been joking. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.
edit on 6/25/2015 by Answer because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 09:52 PM
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originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: ChiefD
a reply to: Answer

No, it was not sarcasm.

I believe my post should be easily understood by most. Except for those with an attitude problem.



An attitude problem?

I figured that, surely, a person wouldn't say something so ignorant as "Viagra is just a stupid boner bill with no medical benefit."

You probably don't personally need most medications... does that mean that they don't have a legitimate purpose?

Should men with ED just give up on sex? Should their partners also give up on sex?

Pardon my disbelief but you are generally pretty rational so that statement took me by surprise and I figured that you MUST have been joking. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.



im already laughing my butt off but if ChiefD comes back and say's erectile dysfunction is not a medical condition im going to laugh harder.
If ChiefD says they were just making the point that it has no medical benefit (besides already help people with erectile dysfunction) then im going to die of laughter, only because she would basically be saying that doctors and scientist that are claiming it also helps the heart and heart related conditions are wrong... Their studies must be false then? : P



posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 11:41 PM
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Medicine schmedicine still a drug..still a problem..smoked for years I know what it does to a persons thought processor .ban cigarettes then there won't be so many people with cancer



posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 02:03 AM
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a reply to: Aleister

I thought it was already well established that marijuana has medicinal uses in helping cancer patients with nausea and pain. I do NOT have a problem with the medical use of marijuana.

I also support the decriminalization of marijuana possession in small amounts for personal use. We do NOT need to clog up our courts & prisons with ordinary pot users.

What concerns me is that the pot legally sold now is anywhere from 3 to 10 times more potent than the grass Hippies smoked 45 - 50 years ago. That and it's now being attractively marketed as "food" that the kids can get into. I don't think this is going to end well.

There are also extremists on both ends of the political spectrum who want to legalize ALL currently illegal drugs (crack, heroin, meth, etc.) who are watching this legalization experiment with great interest for their own political agendas.



posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 02:48 AM
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According to Pentagon spokeswoman Elissa Smith, roughly 6,000 Syrians have already expressed interest in the program, with more than half preparing to be vetted.



posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 04:25 AM
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Obviously. But the main message here is that regardless of "recent" past propaganda "pot" retains it's place in society as it did over past century's. Most people who are gifted with logic and aware of the abuse of govt. powers to dictate otherwise, cannabis is useful in many areas of society. Hemp, and the use of, was/is a cheap material of universal application and widely available from an ever-ending source.

What most people don't know is the use of Hemp in textile manufacturing processes was "attacked" by the advance of other materials and fibers new in development and seeking market share. As a result, massive lobbying of Congress ensued. To be successful in getting support, industry leaders latched on a program to "demonetize" hemp for the 'intoxicating properties of the Marijuana plant. A plant used for thousands of years by segments of the population, aka. Mexicans and Indians, was now the victim of public announcements of over-exaggerated tales of fiendish behavior by users. It was said to cause Negro men, under the influence, to rape white women in the South and people becoming zombies attacking common decent folk. As a result, a well organized and effective campaign to denounce Marijuana use by Wall St., organized religion and public reform organizations such as the "Womens Christian Temperance Union and anti-saloon movement who failed in ridding the country of alcohol now set their sights on the menace of Marijuana.

Although the relevance of the power utilized in this campaign is debatable, the collective forces along with Govt. support aided for the successful assault on personal freedoms of the Individual to force compliance to questionable laws that stands to this day. With recent events of States wishing to "re-think" the issue shows a crack in the mortar of established standards. The expense of jailing non-violent people to the extent we have to date has become more questionable by a large percentage of the population. Local and State Governments see the advantages of not prosecuting offenders and lessen prison crowding. By making pot legal and managed for retail sale to the public turns losses of the treasury to added tax revenue.

Many more people feel this approach is logical and constructive. Also, many feel the propaganda over the years hid the obvious health benefits of Cannabis in many ailments. That the problem is more obscure by Big Pharma interests who has a pill for every condition known. Many of which are costly and often have severe side effects. While the roar of the argument increases, new positive information surfaces that many people believe was known yet hidden from the public from many disinformation specialists. time will tell as it always does and people seem to be waking up to the abuses of authoritative figures who are "owned" by special interest groups. a reply to: Xcathdra



posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 06:20 AM
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a reply to: AuranVector

Hi. No, the potency issue is a myth. If you talk to the hippies from the '60s and '70s they'll tell you that most of the marijuana at the time was of the "one hit" variety. Some of the famous "brand" names of the time became famous for a reason.

I personally would hope that any food labeling made to look like candy, or in any way attractive to children or teens, be done away with, and appropriate packaging be the norm for such food products.


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posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 08:32 AM
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Poison of snake can be used as a medicine too. Shall we let snakes kill us !



posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: AuranVector


That and it's now being attractively marketed as "food" that the kids can get into. I don't think this is going to end well.




There are dozens of household items that can kill children if they get their hands on it and you're worried that they might eat a pot brownie and get really high for awhile with no actual threat to their life?

People shouldn't leave prescription medication, OTC medication, cigarettes, alcohol, cleaning products, flammables, sharp things, etc. laying around for kids to get into. The whole stupid argument that "children could get into the edibles!" is just another distraction meant to elicit an emotional response.



posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 10:09 PM
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I think that's the rub. If it were regulated by ATF as you say akin to alcohol It would be a vice like alcohol or tobacco one that would be regulated but easily accessible to those who wish to partake. If it's regulated by the FDA then Big pharma won't be far behind and regulation will become convoluted and mired in red tape discretionary decisions by physicians and insurance companies. I agree it should be regulated like alcohol. It should not be classified as a medicine though. Many plants have medicinal and narcotic properties but they don't get hoovered into the world of medicine. Poppies, salvia and mushrooms come to mind.



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