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posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 06:17 PM
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What if there was a secret behind the death of jesus never heard before; one of which exists only in theory by our scientific standards.
How was God created? what makes him the Beginning and the End?
What if god existed as a timetraveller, one that can go back to the beginning of time and somehow be able to live forever somehow.


Could you imagine? to eat from the tree of life.....


What if angels were humans from the future or something and God Created the series of events that were somehow required for him to create himself, from the future, out of all of the probabilities of other realities, there exists a single universe called the golden probability that holds together the rest of a multiverse or "alternative timelines". This is what our dreams really are, "Other Realities." I claim that dreams are not made from the mind but you are experiencing yourself on a multiversal level. ( I keep calling them alternative timelines that exist as a multiverse,) where all probabilities of the multiverse that exists were all originally from the same big-bang but branches out at every quantum event; Like Death.

IF SO, Could God from the future kill himself to create a new heaven and new earth?
By altering the probabilities of the multiverse could God create such a single timeline where he exists as two or three people at a time due to time travel and living forever?

What if we replaced the word Jesus with "Schrodinger's Cat."

what if the truth of the bible was that it explains alot of the things jesus had said and the work of revelation.

same as with the word God; What if there was one person out there that actually was God? predestined in the present moment with the future and the past constantly remaining a mystery, and existing as yourself from the future as the same time.

jesus had said to his apostles "Ye are Gods."
from what i understand of the bible, jesus said that "My Father and I are One." and "Before Abraham was, I AM."
he also says that if you've seen him then you've seen the Father.
When Moses asked god what his true name was he said "I AM that I AM."

I ask you how could god exist without being created?
the only way to theoretically create yourself is from the future, and in the bible it says
"In the beginning was the Word. And the Word was With God, And the Word Was God."
In the Bible, Jesus is called "the word became flesh and dwelt among us"

what if jesus litterally was the word of God, The bible itself, predetermined in the "Golden Probability".
What if the future and the past relied completely on the present moment to hold itself together; and it branched out at every quantum event to create a multiverse of alternative timelines.

We would exist on a multiversal level if its true that this is the place of our dreams as well.

on a personal note; I called this thread Die at Will. I think what i am describing had happened to me when i had a near death experieince on thursday september 29th 2011; i believe this date was the sign of the woman and the dragon. you can google that date and bible prophecy.. but i will tell you, the shabbat of the red heifer(sacrificial cow) was exactly 1260 days later.




posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 06:20 PM
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what if i am actually a smurf and this is all one big crazy dream from eating too many smurfberries?



posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 06:23 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm
what if i am actually a smurf and this is all one big crazy dream from eating too many smurfberries?


Basically. this reality would be like a dream as well , maybe even one you could wake up from in another universe.



posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 06:26 PM
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IF SO, Could God from the future kill himself to create a new heaven and new earth?

There are trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions of plants in the cosmos. So why would he have to kill himself?



posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 06:28 PM
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originally posted by: ProxyBear
IF SO, Could God from the future kill himself to create a new heaven and new earth?

There are trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions of plants in the cosmos. So why would he have to kill himself?


to use as a quantum event that would be branching out of existence. he would kill himself to either alter or edit the history of the universe.
but to him it would be as a dream and he would surivive in one universe etc or die in another.
edit on 23-6-2015 by Belcastro because: (no reason given)


he probably pops in and out of existence like an electron does; as he exists at the same time as doesnt? Like when jesus had said " You have a reputation of Being Alive, But you are Dead."
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posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 06:34 PM
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originally posted by: Belcastro

originally posted by: ProxyBear
IF SO, Could God from the future kill himself to create a new heaven and new earth?

There are trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions of plants in the cosmos. So why would he have to kill himself?


to use as a quantum event that would be branching out of existence. he would kill himself to either alter or edit the history of the universe.
but to him it would be as a dream and he would surivie in one universe etc or die in another.


for being the ultimate entity in all of existence, he really likes to make things hard for himself. like, facepalm hard. so hard that you kinda squint at him like "really? THAT'S how your gonna do it?"

edit on 23-6-2015 by TzarChasm because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 06:39 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Belcastro

originally posted by: ProxyBear
IF SO, Could God from the future kill himself to create a new heaven and new earth?

There are trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions upon trillions of plants in the cosmos. So why would he have to kill himself?


to use as a quantum event that would be branching out of existence. he would kill himself to either alter or edit the history of the universe.
but to him it would be as a dream and he would surivie in one universe etc or die in another.


for being the ultimate entity in all of existence, he really likes to make things hard for himself. like, facepalm hard. so hard that you kinda squint at him like "really? THAT'S how your gonna do it?"



What if it was the only way.. to actually create a new heaven and new earth?
an alternate universe?



posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 06:41 PM
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a reply to: Belcastro
That's an absolute flight of fantasy, but I enjoyed it. It's fun to imagine possibilities sometimes!



posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 06:49 PM
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a reply to: Belcastro

i never get this analogy

what if god was this or that

what created this "this or that"

did god create himself?

how?

add: what created alternative universe
what created all posibilities


what is the opposite of all matter and what is the only thing in this universe (beside dark matter)
that actually exists without being comprised of matter and it's properties




edit on 23-6-2015 by Layaly because: (no reason given)

edit on 23-6-2015 by Layaly because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 06:51 PM
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I just plant the seed.



posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 06:53 PM
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a reply to: Layaly

For a singularity to grow you need two.

Genesis 1:3

And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.

Show me monkey that u can solve it!



posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 06:54 PM
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nvm
edit on 23-6-2015 by Layaly because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 06:55 PM
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a reply to: TzarChasm
What if I create a dragon that pees on the smurfberry tree and created dragon pee modified berries that make you see green only?
And then Harry potter somehow has his way with me while I'm passed out in smurfberry coma?



posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 06:56 PM
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a reply to: Layaly

oh come on, let me have some fun.



posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 06:57 PM
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a reply to: Belcastro


I had a much more detailed reply---- but the friggin cosmos frigged with me and I won't retrace my thoughtful reply


""The Hindu religion doesn't have a specific notion of heaven...

According to the Upanishads, our actions connect us to this world of appearances, which is in fact illusory.

What is real is Brahman, the ultimate reality that transcends our sensory experiences.
Unfortunately, we live in ignorance of Brahman and act according to our illusions.
This action (karma) causes us to participate in the cycle of death and rebirth from which it’s difficult to escape.
Thus, if you can escape your ignorance and realize that ultimately you are not you but Brahman itself, then you can achieve release from the cycle of death and rebirth.

This release is called moksha.""

fit the pieces together--- your
OP... the ATS MOTTO ~ deny ignorance ~... the linkage is Hinduism


you are Brahman, I am Brahman...billions of individuals are also Brahman... look past ignorance

this is the dynamics of the Godhead



posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 06:57 PM
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a reply to: FinalCountdown

well if you are under water deep enough red becomes green



posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 06:58 PM
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a reply to: St Udio

See an enlightened person, Hindu not hinduism



posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 07:00 PM
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a reply to: Temudjin

enjoy yourself
edit on 23-6-2015 by Layaly because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 07:10 PM
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a reply to: Temudjin

i am glad I have finally met u

I have been waiting for you my entire life

I will dedicate an entire thread to you



posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 07:12 PM
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Sometimes I wonder if Jesus faked his own death and ran off to the East (India/China). It's a silly idea, I know -- but I've toyed around with the idea. He may have taken some kind of herbal drink to make him appear dead.

Let's think about it ... maybe he was becoming TO popular and attracting to much attention. Perhaps he wanted things to be more about his message and not him?

I wonder if anyone else has thought of this? I haven't run across the idea before so if anyone else has heard of it...



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