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originally posted by: Entreri06
I ment institutional, lawful slavery. Slavery where if you ran away the "POLICE" would return you to your owner. The kind of slavery you can be born into. Corruption where it is illegal but TPTB turn a blind eye , doesn't count either.
The sex trade doesn't count because it's not sanctioned by governments.
Prison (tho I completely agree where your going) doesn't count either.
I know the humanities history of slavery. I just can't find when the change happened where you could keep all races as slaves to where you could only keep Africans as slaves.
...to where you could only keep Africans as slaves.
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: Entreri06
...to where you could only keep Africans as slaves.
It was never a case of "only keeping African as slaves"...
The scumbags who "purchased" people bought whoever they could "afford".
Colour did play a part in "pricing".
"Supply & demand"...
*inverted commas out of disgust of the ideology*
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: Entreri06
...to where you could only keep Africans as slaves.
It was never a case of "only keeping African as slaves"...
The scumbags who "purchased" people bought whoever they could "afford".
Colour did play a part in "pricing".
"Supply & demand"...
*inverted commas out of disgust of the ideology*
Actually, this was the case in the Americas. The Catholic Church made the decision to only allow the enslavement of Africans as "just slavery" sometime in the 1700s. There were several different proclamations on the issue of slavery by several different Popes in the 1700s, and each one narrowed down who it was "just" to keep enslaved.
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: Entreri06
...to where you could only keep Africans as slaves.
It was never a case of "only keeping African as slaves"...
The scumbags who "purchased" people bought whoever they could "afford".
Colour did play a part in "pricing".
"Supply & demand"...
*inverted commas out of disgust of the ideology*
Actually, this was the case in the Americas. The Catholic Church made the decision to only allow the enslavement of Africans as "just slavery" sometime in the 1700s. There were several different proclamations on the issue of slavery by several different Popes in the 1700s, and each one narrowed down who it was "just" to keep enslaved.
Yes, but the OP was asking when white slavery ended, and it never has. Just because some areas of the world made it official that only people of certain ethnicities could be kept as slaves doesn't necessarily mean that the practice of keeping white slaves was stopped worldwide.
Mostly, Charlie is absolutely correct - wherever you find people in power, they tend to make a habit of slavery across history. They rarely enslave their own kind, but the way they define "own kind" changes from place to place. For example, in Africa it's not an ethnic barrier so much as a tribal one, and in Middle Eastern countries, it tends to be defined by gender and religion. So, while it was legal here, it was for a time defined by the Catholic Church as only those of African descent.
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: enlightenedservant
Learn something new everyday...
Not always as disheartening as that though.
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: enlightenedservant
Sounds like it'll be a fantastic read, in an educational sense.
I can imagine that it's a difficult history to decipher and stick with though...
It's a battle between two human instincts, one to forget, and one of knowledge.
See how it goes pal.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: enlightenedservant
Sounds like it'll be a fantastic read, in an educational sense.
I can imagine that it's a difficult history to decipher and stick with though...
It's a battle between two human instincts, one to forget, and one of knowledge.
See how it goes pal.
Thanks. And yeah, I'm emotionally torn over it too. Part of me wants to move on & burn that portion of history. The other part wants to make sure everyone knows the truth. That way they'll know why extreme poverty still exists in certain demographics, even in wealthy countries. It also ends up explaining where stereotypes, social norms, & "politically incorrect" phrases come from.
As en example, I grew up in the deep American South. I've heard & said the word "gipped" probably hundreds of times when describing "being ripped off". It was only in the last few years that I learned it was a slur of the Roma/Romani people, who are slurred as "gypsies". In fact, I didn't even know they disliked that word either, since I always thought the word "gypsy" was a cool, exotic, or "sexy" term.
originally posted by: Gestas
Asian, Black and White and other racial groups endure slavery to this very day, Do not be so naive to think slavery doesn't exist in this day and age.
The last time the Burmese slave made the same request, he was beaten almost to death. But after being gone eight years and forced to work on a boat in faraway Indonesia, Myint Naing was willing to risk everything to see his mother again.
So he threw himself on the ground and begged for freedom. Instead, the captain vowed to kill him for trying to jump ship, and chained him for three days without food or water.
He was afraid he would disappear. And that his mother would have no idea where to look.
Myint is one of more than 800 current and former slaves rescued or repatriated after a year-long Associated Press investigation into pervasive labor abuses in Southeast Asia's fishing industry.
Thailand's booming seafood business alone runs on an estimated 200,000 migrant workers, many of them forced onto boats after being tricked, kidnapped or sold. It's a brutal trade that has operated for decades, with companies relying on slaves to supply fish to the United States, Europe and Japan — on dinner tables and in cat food bowls.
news.yahoo.com...