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The Recurring Counterfeit Sky & Possible Chemtrail Connection (Parts 1-3)

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posted on Jun, 24 2015 @ 12:41 PM
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a reply to: tigertatzen

A large, diverse group of people still think Christopher Columbus was the one to prove the world was round..

Oh and that article is discussing the universe, not earth's sky, and using powerful telescopes to maybe see what they're hypothesising.

Apparently you can see it without a telescope! Well done.


I am well aware that they are discussing the Universe, and I am pretty sure I typed "the universe is a hologram" in the link and specifically stated that it was the Universe that they were theorizing about, so you are wasting your sarcasm, as well as proving my point about the nitpicking and pettiness that I described in the same post.

I referenced that to show that not only is it possible to create a holographic projection on a large scale, physicists took it even further than what I am suggesting...and did so years before I was even aware of such a concept. If they are able to figure out how to design something as vast as a false Universe, it would stand to reason that the sky of our little planet would be child's play by comparison.

Why would you need a telescope to look at what is right above your head? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? I'm guessing no. Strong work there.

Why would anyone think that Christopher Columbus proved the earth was round? Where are you getting that garbage from? The only thing I've ever heard said about that was that Magellan was responsible, which is not true either. And what does that have to do with holograms? Bless your heart, you are certainly reaching aren't you? One thing that is in fact relevant with regard to Columbus is that he wasn't afraid to venture out and explore, nor did he accept that what he believed to be true, even without tangible proof, was not within the realm of possibility.




posted on Jun, 24 2015 @ 02:32 PM
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Another thing i heard and have not looked into much aside from my own observations is that people see things differently and could even be very differently. I think mainly colors and depth perception though. For example, some see more blue or see more red etc. for me i have issues with depth perception whereas if i were to look at a row of stop lights say down ten blocks or so they look nearly right behind each other.

So just dont exclude a vision issue and realize that people post fake videos on the internet too and also camera are not designed to take pictures of the sun and you are not doing the chips in a camera any good by doing so.


Yes, I made reference to individual perception being a possible factor in my OP as well, and I am also well aware that people do in fact fake videos. But my photos are not fake, and neither are the other ones I included in the OP.

If you are suggesting that the sun somehow damaged the camera in the split second it took to snap a picture and caused the sky anomalies in the photos, I'd like to see some type of evidence that a camera can be damaged while taking one picture and then be perfectly fine directly after that. And it would seem very unlikely that the same thing just magically happened to three different cameras in three different physical locations at roughly the same time.

I don't know what you meant by "chips" in the camera, but all three were smartphone cameras; two iPhones and one Android (mine, which is not even two months old). Ditto your claim that cameras are not designed to take photos of the sun...tell that to all the photographers out there who take pictures of it on a routine basis, because I don't think they know about this.

Visual issues related to the eye make some sense when looking at it from just the standpoint of what we are visually experiencing, but not so much when all of the other observations are factored in.

If there were a syndrome that affected the vision of people from all different cultures and walks of life, but only when they look up at the sky, I think medical science would have already gotten wind of that...everything looks perfectly ok; trees, cars, structures, etc...except for the sky? It is just not plausible. I also know for a fact that I do not have problems with depth perception or any other type of eye condition other than a very mild myopia, which I also have stated in an earlier post.

This has been going on in my life for a very long time now. I have spent countless hours looking things up that could account for this and so far nothing makes sense. Certain things when considered apart from everything else could help to explain it, but it's not just as simple as looking up at the sky and thinking it looks fake. If that were the case, I would never have taken the time to write this thread, and I certainly would not have spent four years of my life trying to find out what was causing it, and documenting all of the other things that go along with it as closely as I have. If someone were to have told me that the sky is fake before that day in December of 2011, I would have likely laughed right in their face. No hesitation. But now? I'm not laughing. It's easy to dismiss something until it happens to you, and I am walking proof of that being true.



posted on Jun, 24 2015 @ 03:23 PM
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Since you have put a good bit of thought into this, how about explaining what the end goal here is. The "why" anyone would go through the obvious costly effort of making a fake sky above you and a select few of your followers? Apparently my corner of the world is much less important than yours as my skies have looked like real skies as long as I remember.

But I have nothing to prove you wrong, so instead, maybe you can offer a realistic reason for this to be happening and it can be further investigated.


What do you mean by this?


making a fake sky above you and a select few of your followers?


I was not aware that I had "followers" of any kind. Please, do enlighten me as to who they are and how they came to be following me. Did you miss the part (repeatedly) where I said that other people (not just a "select few", either) have been seeing these things and talking about them for years before I ever saw them? Now, if someone created that fake sky just for me, why would others have seen it before me? And wouldn't that actually make me the follower, since I was years late for the show? Or the part where I said that I don't know what is going on and I am trying to find out? If I knew what it was, I would have no reason to wonder, now would I?

Why are you being so nasty and mean? Do you just get a kick out of bullying people too? I would not have thought that about you but I guess I was sadly mistaken. Live and learn, I suppose.

I do not know why it is happening. As I have also stated, repeatedly. The best that I can do is guess, as once again I have also stated, repeatedly. I wrote this thread to share what I know and in hopes that someone else might be able to lend some insight. That maybe someone knows the things that I do not and have not been able to find out. I did not, however, write it so that people can just have another fun target to take pot shots at. You can be hateful and sarcastic all you want, but that will not make what I am saying any less true or what I am experiencing any less real. And if you don't like the topic of the thread then why don't you just move on? Surely there must be some other, fresher meat out there that is worthy of your mockery and disdain, yeah? People like you are the reason that there are so many people who don't talk about things like this...they are afraid of being ridiculed for daring to speak up. Well done.



posted on Jun, 24 2015 @ 03:27 PM
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Running diagnostic...


OP is showing symptoms similar to that of Truman Syndrome, which may include signs of delusion, paranoid, narcissistic, avoidant, and self-imposed social isolation. OP will sound very convincing in their arguments but only rely on their own experience as the truth. OP has extreme desire to be exclusive to things they discover and believe they are the only one to such information. OP will disregard evidence that goes against their beliefs or will make up something that doesn't contradict their core beliefs.

It's worth noting that a group called Flat Earth Believers exhibit very similar (almost identical) behaviors as being shown here in the OP.



posted on Jun, 24 2015 @ 04:45 PM
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Yup. The search continues:

"Happy those persecuted for righteousness' sake -- because theirs is the reign of the heavens.
Happy are ye whenever they may reproach you, and may persecute, and may say any evil thing against you falsely for my sake --
rejoice ye and be glad, because your reward [is] great in the heavens, for thus did they persecute the prophets who were before you."


Wow, it's almost spooky how relevant that is right this exact moment...uncanny.




Although I have not seen it in months, I used to start seeing people's faces in a different light, I can't really explain it any other way than.... each of my brain hemispheres were seeing the two sides of their face differently. Normally I would think this is a migraine aura or something, but these facial curiosities ALWAYS coincide with an uplifted state. Responsibility, stress, money, distasteful behavior, egotistical behavior, etc, would dwindle this upliftment. Not to mention there was a subtle telepathy occurring. This state of mind reaffirmed that commonly seen notion that "we all are one". I could best describe it as the tip of the iceberg of heaven. To relate this back to the post, the sky seemed part of the stage; a great imaginative construct.


I hate to pepper you with questions, but I have a few of them. When you say that you saw the two sides differently, do you mean each side had a different physical appearance? And do you recall when it was that this first started?

When you say that the sky seemed part of the stage, did it change in appearance too? For instance, in my case it is an obvious, blatant change in appearance but also affects me physically as well for the duration of the fake sky, and from what I observe, has noticeable physical effects on other people as well, even though they do not see anything different with their eyes.

The reason that I ask is...obviously you are experiencing something that (and this is a total assumption) sounds like it is unique to you, much like I thought at first that my "symptoms" were unique to me. Of course, that turned out to not be true at all...which was a relief to me...but even so, I am left with the mystery of why only certain people share the basic same experience that I do. Do you think, or have you heard of, anyone else having the same type of visual anomalies when they see people's faces? Basically, I am wondering if there is a deeper connection. It's easier if I think of it as a disease process, because my brain relates things better from a medical standpoint, but I am in no way suggesting that you or myself or anyone else has any kind of an illness, just to be perfectly clear.

Ok so, pretend it's a disease. As we know, diseases have numerous different symptoms, and not all of the people who have the disease are going to suffer the same symptoms...due to our unique nature, like I said in my OP. However if you were to take a poll of every single patient who suffered the disease, from all different parts of the world, there are going to be at least some of those people who will have suffered the same exact set of symptoms as each other, and other groups who also suffer identical symptoms as each other that are different than the first group's set of symptoms, and so on and so on. These people don't know each other, have never crossed paths with each other, are absolutely nothing alike in any other way, yet they share this precise set of symptoms.

Could something be happening that is like a disease, and also only certain groups of people share a set of "symptoms"...regardless of geographical location or race or gender or any other contributing factors; in my case, the fake sky, exhaustion, feeling as if gravity has increased, nausea, loss of appetite...and then another group of people share an entirely different set of symptoms, such as perceiving facial anomalies and mild telepathy? I know that many people believe that we are approaching an ascension, or an awakening...what if we really are, and these "symptoms" are being caused by whatever energy or force is in play? Do you think that could be a possible explanation for all of this?



posted on Jun, 25 2015 @ 05:37 PM
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6) The fake sky is either a uniform color, even at the horizon, or it has lines or layers to it (or both at the same time), and at times appears "pixelated". It has a dull appearance and looks "flat", like a watercolor painting. Some days, it even looks noticeably concave, like a dome or something similar. Also, at certain points the sky appears to shift or "glitch"...sort of flickering in and out.


This part caught my attention. When I was younger, I would go up to a roof ( a very high roof) and spend hours just staring at the sky. I can't remember what my purpose was but eventually I started noticing something. There were times when the sky was just blue and crystal clear. There were other time, were I started seeing some fuzzy movement, very pixel like. I would blink my eyes and try to clear them but it would still be there. Perhaps it was just me focusing too much on a certain area. But there would be other parts of the sky that did not pixelate in that form. Then I would go back to that particular area and see the pixels again. It seemed to appear at random places in the sky.

I dont wear glasses and my eyesight is pretty excellent. It was just a weird thing to experience.
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posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 11:37 AM
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This part caught my attention. When I was younger, I would go up to a roof ( a very high roof) and spend hours just staring at the sky. I can't remember what my purpose was but eventually I started noticing something. There were times when the sky was just blue and crystal clear. There were other time, were I started seeing some fuzzy movement, very pixel like. I would blink my eyes and try to clear them but it would still be there. Perhaps it was just me focusing too much on a certain area. But there would be other parts of the sky that did not pixelate in that form. Then I would go back to that particular area and see the pixels again. It seemed to appear at random places in the sky.

I dont wear glasses and my eyesight is pretty excellent. It was just a weird thing to experience.


Indeed, when those shifts happen it's at random places in the sky. Sometimes it happens so quickly that if you were to blink, you'd miss it. There have also been a few occasions where it appears as if something silvery-looking is sort of popping through the clouds and then retracting again...it happens very rapidly, and is not enough to make out a distinct form or shape. I am baffled as to what it could be. It's something small (compared to the size of the cloud formation) and very shiny. Someone posted a video on youtube that actually shows it, and stated that they thought it was a UFO, but I just don't think it is anything like that. I don't think any of this is the work of extraterrestrial beings.

So you have not seen the phenomenon again since that time? I wear glasses to correct myopia but they're only necessary when I'm driving or reading something in very fine print.



posted on Jun, 26 2015 @ 05:44 PM
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I can't say that I have seen it again because I haven't done it in such a long time. Or rather, havent had time to just relax and look at the sky. But i will have to start doing that again.

Another part that caught my attention were the birds. I'm sure someone will strike this down fast but there are times when the birds are out there chirping like it's daylight. Even though it's smack in the middle of the night. I always thought it was so strange. I almost feel like they know it's daylight but we are seeing a dark sky.



posted on Jun, 29 2015 @ 04:36 PM
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I actually saw the "pixelation" thing yesterday....if I had looked away for a second, I'd have missed it. I was taking photos of the sky, because it was a fake day and happened to glance up at just the right time. And yes, out in the country I have heard birds at night on several occasions. Not typical night birds like Whippoorwills either....Slylarks and Robins and other ones that I cannot identify. Morning birds at full morning volume. But no crickets or toads or frogs or little scurrying sounds of small creatures, which is noticeably odd to have missing at night in the country in the middle of the summer.

I heard a thundering sound of something running through the grass on Friday night...sounded like an entire herd of deer...and the next morning there were about a gazillion hoofprints and ruts in the lawn. The grass was actually gouged out in places. It had to have been 15 or more deer from the way it sounded. Woke me up in the middle of the night. And all the dogs and cats are acting really bizarre at the house; cowering and whimpering, hiding under the furniture. It's kinda freaking me out a bit because I'll be out there by myself tonight, not gonna lie. I'm not a baby but giant herds of deer don't run right through the front yard like that for no reason...something spooked them.



posted on Jun, 30 2015 @ 07:28 AM
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you accuse others of " not reading " - yet you clearly have not read yourself [ or are dishonestly misrepresenting ] the nasa article on solar pole shift

the sun is not going to flip physically - its magnetic polarity is going to revers - hint - it has already done this at least once in your lifetime

you do understand that the magnetic and physical polarities of a body are independant - dont you ??????????????



posted on Jul, 1 2015 @ 12:50 PM
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The pixelation can be seen anywhere.. Perhaps a less comforting assertion than it happening just in the sky. I have my own hypotheses about that, specifically, but they aren't too much in the theme of the thread.

Birds can also sing at any time. The birds around where I live will even sing differently at particularly beautiful sunrises and sunsets. Pretty darn neat, at least in my opinion.

Anyway, beyond all that, threads like these tend to be steeped in fear and I feel that is problematic in many ways. There are, without question, huge changes coming to this world. I'm not particularly quick to ascribe a metaphysical source solely, but regardless, we choose how all of this goes in so many ways. Fear distracts and immobilizes, yet it is the common reaction to anything of this sort. I suspect the before and during the industrial revolution, many experienced the same behaviors. I also suspect that such fear leading to inaction allowed those with clearer heads to take advantage of the changes to the fullest extent possible.

On the advent of a similar revolution, this method of control is even more effective. Going too deep into the how and why could be a thread of its own though.

If the sky is fake, the important question wouldn't even necessarily be how, or why, but how such a social experience will be used to manipulate. Regardless of veracity, these things can be used to shape or narrative all the same.



posted on Jul, 1 2015 @ 01:24 PM
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Nice thread OP and very welcome!

Very few people have the guts to report something anomalous and then stick around here in the ATS frying pan. Too bad most of the thread is taken up with why this can't be instead of trying to figure out the why it IS. Seriously just cause you haven't seen something yet, doesn't mean you won't.

Yeah.....deny ignorance! I agree but when posters are being themselves ignorant, maybe you ought to "check yourself" first?

I haven't seen the same thing the OP has reported, plus some others (yet) however the light gradient HAS undergone some radical changes. Could be due to the sun spot cycle we're in or the chemtrails. Weather modification has been going on (cloud seeding) and we as the general public DON"T KNOW how far this has been advanced. What I do know for sure is despite reasonable snow cover the past 2-3 winters in my location the snowpack instead of slowly rehydrating the ground has evaporated instead leaving the ground bone dry 3 inches down from the surface.
VERY ABNORMAL!

Same with the rain we get. It remains on the ground's surface instead of saturating. Sure there is run-off, but with the amount of rain this spring & summer I shouldn't be able to dig down 6-8 inches & find pure dust. Never have before in 30 yrs in the same gardens, so why now? Unless the physical properties of the rainfall have been altered chemically?

Take it to the bank our skies are being tampered with. Maybe with good intentions, maybe not. Dunno.

Could be a combination of pollution, Govt testing, just too much cloud seeding, sun cycles, jet stream aberrations, whatever......

Reguardless "something" is definitely off kilter.

So what has that to do with Fake Skies? It's just another observable symptom. I think the OP nailed it with #7 as did
whoever suggested some sort of holographic testing is underway combined with;

originally posted by: crabberticus
So i also did my research in chemtrails while looking into the old conspiracy labeled "project blue beam" . . What i found in my discoveries was amazing and vital to your post and argument. . .holograms require a set of lets say ingredients in order to work. One key ingredient is barium nibate . . Now why do i mention this? Well, research has actually showed one of the key compounds in chemtrails just so happens to be barium nibate . . . There are other ingredients found in holograms as well as chemtrails but i cant remember them off the top of my head. . But yea great post. Thanks for sharing ^.^reply to: tigertatzen


It makes sense it is more than one thing causing what TigerTatzen is reporting. For the naysayers please remember DARPA is a slimy little sucker with more BS up it's sleeve than a Carnie. Never doubt the Govt WILL & can test stuff on the general population & doesn't care if you believe it or not. SubContractors go off reservation as well, until they get caught anyways. Common sense dictates that with the military personnel reductions the pool of lab-rats has shrunk, so did you civilians think you got a free pass? or the testing would be reduced? (hahahahahaha......m-kay then!!!)

Telling TT to get better pics is just passing the buck. What happened to the ATS days of digging around to see what different companies are working on, or programs the Govt is working on or are actively moving into the testing phase?
Tsk....tsk....
1/2 of you can quote general alexander from 50 freaking yrs ago yet not dig into this like pitt-bulls? REALLY????

disclaimer....I suck at the govt files digging so don't even toss that back at me. Just pointing out here on ATS there are folks who excel at it and now would be a good time for some digging.

What I don't know is if TigerTatzen is perceiving this because she's new to the east coast, or her natural perceptions may be more acute than most or if the "alleged testing" just is currently localized in her area.

As far as meteorologists not noticing, well firstly you don't see what you aren't looking for, secondly those poor suckers are being pushed to produce TV ratings, being downsized and generally just as hammered as we are at their jobs, what makes anyone think things WOULDN'T fall thru the cracks? Plus professionally it's usually a bad thing to point out anomalies. Bosses & co-workers don't really encourage it. Bad for job security.

If anyone read this all the way thru....thank you!



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 03:38 PM
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a reply to: tigertatzen

you accuse others of " not reading " - yet you clearly have not read yourself [ or are dishonestly misrepresenting ] the nasa article on solar pole shift

the sun is not going to flip physically - its magnetic polarity is going to revers - hint - it has already done this at least once in your lifetime

you do understand that the magnetic and physical polarities of a body are independant - dont you ??????????????


Wow, seriously??? Wow. I have to just shake my head and facepalm at your continued assertions that just because I see something that you do not, I am somehow either stupid or lying, whilst in the process you're making some of the most stunningly idiotic statements I have ever seen to try and illustrate that. What exactly is your problem, guy??

When did I ever say that the sun was going to "physically flip"? Oh that's right...I didn't. Of course I understand the difference between the two. I'm not "dishonestly misrepresenting" anything. You were mocking yet another member because he said that he saw the moon appear to be upside-down or belly-up, and I linked you the NASA article to show you that what he was saying was completely plausible. I also told you that he is not the only person who has said the Moon had apparently flipped over; because you were insinuating that he was lying about it (much like you are saying that I am lying, and as I've seen you do to numerous other members as well; that seems to be a common theme with you) and stating that no one else saw it or talked about it, therefore it didn't happen.

When the sun's magnetic field reverses, it affects everything in the heliosphere. It can affect weather and cause visual and even physical anomalies all over the solar system. There are numerous other articles on the subject too, and they all say the same thing. It can even affect physical and atmospheric properties of distant planets; one scientist said that Jupiter has storm activity and Saturn has auroras when the reversal is occurring.

So, though the Moon did not actually flip upside down or flatten out into a disk, the sun's magnetic shift could most definitely cause it to appear that way. In fact, that was one of the anomalies that many were theorizing could have been caused by the fact that the sun's poles are reversing and causing a ripple effect that has physical influence on everything within the reach of the heliosphere, including Earth. And in 2013 when the polar shift was announced, the two hemispheres were not shifting at the same rate this time, which can drastically distort the appearance of other celestial bodies. I even looked into the possibility of that being the reason the sky looks artificial, but it doesn't add up when all the other factors surrounding the fake sky phenomenon are combined with it.

So, are there any other ridiculous accusations you'd like to make? So far you've accused me of telling lies and/or being intellectually challenged, neither of which are even remotely correct. Want to join the others in practicing psychiatry without a license and diagnosing me with mental illness too? You wouldn't be exactly original, but then again you weren't when you called me a liar either, so have at it.



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 03:45 PM
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originally posted by: ipofaon OP is showing symptoms similar to that of Truman Syndrome, which may include signs of delusion, paranoid, narcissistic, avoidant, and self-imposed social isolation.


the OP might also simply know that everything is a production. a show. the viewer/participant demarcation is fuzzy.

this knowledge, expressed to those unaware of it, might be perceived as the symptoms detailed in your comment.

so we have crazy, or true(man). it's a matter of awareness and perception.



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 04:51 PM
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Thank you very much for your post. I am not in the habit of authoring threads unless I really feel that I need to share something with others...in fact, this is my third thread and I have been a member since the beginning of 2012. It is really disappointing to see so many horrible things being said about and to me, but I suppose I should not be surprised...mockery, hatred and derision seem to be the hallmarks of ATS these days. At any rate, I appreciate the moral support and kindness very much.

Thank you for mentioning the cloud seeding. I didn't even bother trying to suggest that to these people, but I was surprised when I read about it a while back because I didn't realize that it was actually being put into practice. When this all first started happening to me, I thought I was the only one and I didn't tell anyone what I observed and felt. Perhaps if I had been braver and done so, I'd have a better idea of what is going on than I do currently; perhaps not. Either way, I am not alone so that is a comfort at least.

I was not on the East coast when I first experienced this. I was back home in Texas. I had halfway convinced myself that it was something that was exclusive to the area, something chemical in the city that somehow affected my visual perception. But moving out here 1500+ miles away from that city...you see the entire sky so much more clearly. There are no planes flying over every five minutes, no helicopters, none of that hazy pollution hanging in the air. And because of that, I realized that it really was happening, and it is even more blatant out here with nothing to camouflage it or conveniently explain it away. I couldn't deny it anymore, so I decided to try and research it instead. And that is how I found out that not only have lots of other people seen it, they've been seeing it for a very long time before I ever did, and they've gotten videos of it and photos that I could view and confirm that it is indeed the same thing I am seeing/feeling.

And it is extremely plausible to me that those of us who can see it must have some natural ability to perceive certain things that other people cannot, or cannot yet. But other things, such as the ones you have added; that the rain doesn't saturate the ground, that it is dry as dust just a few inches down...I noticed that too, and so have lots of other people here because it's a farming community. Vegetables in our garden are not thriving...they aren't getting enough water. I literally have to go out and water the tomatoes because if I don't, they'll die...even though it's been raining every other day these past couple weeks. And nothing is growing to its normal size, either. Also, I don't know if it's escalating or what, because everyone is talking about it when I'm in town. I've heard many people, especially this week, mentioning that something is really weird about the sun. I don't say anything, just listen and observe, but I really think that pretty soon whatever is happening will be visible to everyone. That, after almost four years of quietly knowing something is not right while everyone around me seems oblivious, I will finally know exactly what it is that I've been seeing all this time.



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 04:55 PM
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the OP might also simply know that everything is a production. a show. the viewer/participant demarcation is fuzzy.

this knowledge, expressed to those unaware of it, might be perceived as the symptoms detailed in your comment.

so we have crazy, or true(man). it's a matter of awareness and perception.



That is exactly what it feels like to me. Thank you for that.



posted on Jul, 2 2015 @ 05:19 PM
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The pixelation can be seen anywhere.. Perhaps a less comforting assertion than it happening just in the sky. I have my own hypotheses about that, specifically, but they aren't too much in the theme of the thread.


My housemate's son told me last night that he thought he needed his eyes examined; of course I asked him why (he's 15 and thinks everything he cannot explain is indicative of a severe medical issue, like a lot of teenagers), and he told me that twice, as he was walking into the kitchen, he saw what looked like "tiling and freezing", such as when he's playing Call of Duty and the wifi signal glitches (his words) in one area of the room and then another, and he said the second time it didn't go away even after he blinked several times. He said it flickered for a couple of seconds before it went back to normal. So less comforting? Oh yes, definitely less comforting...I can handle it in the sky; not so much inside our home. I would love to hear your hypotheses if you ever feel like sharing, just fyi.




Anyway, beyond all that, threads like these tend to be steeped in fear and I feel that is problematic in many ways. There are, without question, huge changes coming to this world. I'm not particularly quick to ascribe a metaphysical source solely, but regardless, we choose how all of this goes in so many ways. Fear distracts and immobilizes, yet it is the common reaction to anything of this sort. I suspect the before and during the industrial revolution, many experienced the same behaviors. I also suspect that such fear leading to inaction allowed those with clearer heads to take advantage of the changes to the fullest extent possible.


That right there is something I have thought about a whole lot, especially in light of recent events. I have examined many, many different possibilities of how something like this could be a benefit or a tool if it is indeed being deliberately done, and that is right at the top of my "most likely scenarios" list. Of course, that leads me back to more questions...why can only certain people see it, do "they" know we can see it, and if so, are we in some kind of danger if we talk about it to other people? Or are we the clearheaded advantage-takers and just don't know it yet?



posted on Aug, 14 2015 @ 05:52 PM
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I don't live in the USA and I don't often look up at the sky, no particular reason but I don't really deliberately or specifically do that but when I do, it sometimes looks as though the sky is 2D, like a massive flat screen, which I always explained with that given 'what' a/the sky is, it's not actually made of solid objects or really a definable 'screen' for that matter, anyway. As in, if I look around in my room I see a 3D mess that I need to clean up and furniture, so angles, edges, depths and objects that I can 'compare'. In the sky, there's no such thing and clouds won't always cut it, either. I don't know what you specifically mean with pixelation, but I explained what I imagine with that with things like eye fluid, tired eyes etc. I attributed the 2D sky to an optical effect.

In your OP you said that the sky at such moments appears 3D but fake- to me, it appears 2D and fake, at the times that I do notice. I actually notice a lot of details other people miss but they're almost always on the ground. Makes some sense as I tend to go to forested areas (I like those) as opposed to vast, wide open land. I like your thread
Interesting.



posted on Aug, 27 2015 @ 11:38 PM
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I applaud you for laying it all out on the table, OP. If everyone had your balls, then this world would be a much better place in my humble opinion.

I've seen my fair share of strangeness in regards to the sky, and I don't give a damn what anyone here thinks about me for sharing.

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The sky looks cartoonish to me anymore, all the time. It started for me in 2009. I started photographing the sky with a digital camera mounted on a tripod when the urge hit. I've captured all kinds of anomalies; some which led me to question everything in a whole new light.

The answers are yours to find. My advice is to start with your dreams. Keep a diary and a voice recorder close when you sleep. Don't get impatient, because there is a reason for the struggle.

A break through will happen as long as you keep questioning and trying.

While astronomers continue to measure the properties of an illusion, the real explorers of this world have turned inward and require no technology to explore inner space.

Feel free to message me anytime OP. You're my kind of normal.




posted on Aug, 30 2015 @ 01:49 PM
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I don't live in the USA and I don't often look up at the sky, no particular reason but I don't really deliberately or specifically do that but when I do, it sometimes looks as though the sky is 2D, like a massive flat screen, which I always explained with that given 'what' a/the sky is, it's not actually made of solid objects or really a definable 'screen' for that matter, anyway. As in, if I look around in my room I see a 3D mess that I need to clean up and furniture, so angles, edges, depths and objects that I can 'compare'. In the sky, there's no such thing and clouds won't always cut it, either. I don't know what you specifically mean with pixelation, but I explained what I imagine with that with things like eye fluid, tired eyes etc. I attributed the 2D sky to an optical effect.

In your OP you said that the sky at such moments appears 3D but fake- to me, it appears 2D and fake, at the times that I do notice. I actually notice a lot of details other people miss but they're almost always on the ground. Makes some sense as I tend to go to forested areas (I like those) as opposed to vast, wide open land. I like your thread Interesting.


I have actually experienced the "flat screen" appearance as well, and earlier this week, as a matter of fact. And that is something that lots of other people notice, even if they cannot see the pixelation or the strange appearance of the sun. It's almost as if they can perceive on some level that something is wrong, but lack the ability to discern what it is. One thing that has made me feel a whole lot better lately is that more and more people are starting to notice something "weird" about the sky. And they're starting to talk about it. Thank you for reading




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