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Father's Day: A dad wonders, does anyone ever get this job right?

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posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: nonspecific

Cool story!

Some parents can be so unwilling to stand up to their children when they get out of line when they're clearly testing what they can get away with.
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posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
Being a mother has the same responsibilities as being a father, and more. I am very aware of parental responsibilities, probably more than most.

As a mother I know how insensitive children are sometimes though I know I am loved and appreciated and that means more than a card or gift.

From your comment, it sounds like you are doing your best and actually being a responsible father which is much more than many 'fathers'.

Being a responsible father is to be commended so well done for that and for being a good example to your children and perhaps to other fathers.

The world would be a better place if all fathers were good fathers.





I have not read the back and forth on this but as a MAN and Father fail to see anything wrong with you staement.

As to the further posts I will comment if needed.

I am normally a big fan of BFFT but that seemed un needed.

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posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: theabsolutetruth
Being a mother has the same responsibilities as being a father, and more. I am very aware of parental responsibilities, probably more than most.

As a mother I know how insensitive children are sometimes though I know I am loved and appreciated and that means more than a card or gift.

From your comment, it sounds like you are doing your best and actually being a responsible father which is much more than many 'fathers'.

Being a responsible father is to be commended so well done for that and for being a good example to your children and perhaps to other fathers.

The world would be a better place if all fathers were good fathers.





I have not read the back and forth on this but as a MAN and Father fail to see anything wrong with you staement.

As to the further posts I will comment if needed.

I am normally a big fan of BFFT but that seemed un needed.

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Replying to my own post here but WTF?

I am a man and a dad, and a stepdad.

Oh and an uncle and a kinda uncle to many children.

I get the anger but on reading Absolutetruths initial post I still feel I must have missed a meeting?

4 or 5 pages bickering about stuff when nothing was said?

Please can someone explain this?



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 11:38 AM
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It was all based on her second post..
I actually didn't realize her first post, until after I went back..
Rude attitude..
We are bringing this BACK up though??

fury was wrong to me, but he/she wasn't mean.. It was what came next. And no apology.
At least on my part I was trying to get this concluded. I wasn't arguing her points.
And I wasn't doing it for me. I like her posts personally, and just didn't want her to be disrespected.



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posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: KnightLight
a reply to: nonspecific

It was all based on her second post..
I actually didn't realize her first post, until after I went back..
Rude attitude..
We are bringing this BACK up though??

fury was wrong to me, but he/she wasn't mean.. It was what came next. And no apology.
At least on my part I was trying to get this concluded. I wasn't arguing her points.




The post was directed at the thread in general after seeing the abuse the poster recieved.

What was actually said to incite the attacks.

"Being a mother has the same responsibilities as being a father, and more. I am very aware of parental responsibilities, probably more than most.

As a mother I know how insensitive children are sometimes though I know I am loved and appreciated and that means more than a card or gift.

From your comment, it sounds like you are doing your best and actually being a responsible father which is much more than many 'fathers'.

Being a responsible father is to be commended so well done for that and for being a good example to your children and perhaps to other fathers.

The world would be a better place if all fathers were good fathers."

I cannot personally find anything wrong with this statement. Anything that followed is different but given that the poster was pretty much attacked from the outset could possibly explain other statements.



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 11:46 AM
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If I were to say that and recive abuse I would also possibly say something unpleasant or that could be used against me.

Although I do not do that as I am cool.



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 11:51 AM
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originally posted by: nonspecific
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If I were to say that and recive abuse I would also possibly say something unpleasant or that could be used against me.

Although I do not do that as I am cool.


THERE is ONE post after her first post directed at her.. Then SHE got Rude.

It was her second post.. Not the first one.
And I know you're not talking to me..
You would thread jack an entire thread about father's day cause you got upset?
Read it in context that everyone was mad at her attitude not her first post.. If her second post ended there or if she debated in a respectful manner no one would have been the way they were.. She did this to herself. And she has a history of it.. It's not new.

Again for me (and not in my defense) I was trying to help. I don't want her to feel hurt on ATS. I like her. I like everybody here.

And her we go into off topic land..

I just hope she feels better now, and doesn't feel like she was ganged up on. Or if she does feel that way I hope she has a great day today.




bringing this back up and talking behind her back doesn't feel good though.. So can we leave it???
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posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: KnightLight

originally posted by: nonspecific
Edit:

If I were to say that and recive abuse I would also possibly say something unpleasant or that could be used against me.

Although I do not do that as I am cool.


THERE is ONE post after her first post directed at her.. Then SHE got Rude.

It was her second post.. Not the first one.
And I know you're not talking to me..
You would thread jack an entire thread about father's day cause you got upset?
Read it in context that everyone was mad at her attitude not her first post.. If her second post ended there or if she debated in a respectful manner no one would have been the way they were.. She did this to herself. And she has a history of it.. It's not new.

Again for me (and not in my defense) I was trying to help. I don't want her to feel hurt on ATS. I like her. I like everybody here.

And her we go into off topic land..

I just hope she feels better now, and doesn't feel like she was ganged up on. Or if she does feel that way I hope she has a great day today.




bringing this back up and talking behind her back doesn't feel good though.. So can we leave it???


All done and dusted as far as I am concerned, otherwise it's two people talking about something that does not concern them



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: nonspecific

Good..

So how was your father's day?
I was supposed to go see my dad but it didn't work out..
spent it with mom instead haha.



and did you see my other post about the man in the backyard?
I had a weird day yesterday.
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posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: KnightLight
a reply to: nonspecific

Good..

So how was your father's day?
I was supposed to go see my dad but it didn't work out..
spent it with mom instead haha.



and did you see my other post about the man in the backyard?
I had a weird day yesterday.


My father is a bitter senile alcoholic and I only get to see my son when my ex needs a free babysitter but thanks for asking!!

Meh, it is what it is eh?

I hope your wierd day makes it all worth while...



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: nonspecific

I sort of assumed after your step dad story..
never mind haha.

oh and maybe skip my other post.




posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 12:18 PM
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a reply to: nonspecific

My two cents: as a single dad with sole custody, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth when somebody tries to tell me how women have it harder or have more of a job than a father does. Then again, I recognize that I'm a rare case.

That being said, all the behavior after that was mind blowing.



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: nonspecific

That being said, all the behavior after that was mind blowing.


Precisely.. I couldn't believe it.

That being said, she was only following your advice..
You know right below the body of your post?

Lol..



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 12:26 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: nonspecific

My two cents: as a single dad with sole custody, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth when somebody tries to tell me how women have it harder or have more of a job than a father does. Then again, I recognize that I'm a rare case.

That being said, all the behavior after that was mind blowing.


I understand your viewpoint.

Is it however tainted by personal experience? I can find 100 dads that say mums are bad and 100 mums that will say that dads are useless.

Personal perspective is simply that, this is nothing against you I assure you but I very rarely meet someone that says there ex is just another human experiencing life.

My ex is a crap mum because.........

I am a crap dad because........

My dad was crap beacause......

My mum never........

ad infinitum........



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 12:42 PM
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a reply to: nonspecific

From the ATS info page.. About ATS.

- We refuse to allow insults and mayhem that you'll see on many other boards.

- We promote productive debate and collaborative discussion.

- We promote the examination of any topic as long as manners are maintained.


Those are good mottos..

Turning HAPPY father's day, into Negative B fest is not very becoming..



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 12:50 PM
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originally posted by: KnightLight
a reply to: nonspecific

From the ATS info page.. About ATS.

- We refuse to allow insults and mayhem that you'll see on many other boards.

- We promote productive debate and collaborative discussion.

- We promote the examination of any topic as long as manners are maintained.


Those are good mottos..

Turning HAPPY father's day, into Negative B fest is not very becoming..


I was not aware that I had gone against any T C's?

It was simply meant to point out that everybody has a perspective on life.

All people can relate to any of the above statements yet the person in question would and could argue the point.

I am pretty sure the point of the OP was to question our own evaluation of ourselves was it not?



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: nonspecific

No


That was what the other poster did.. This is not about you.

Her perspective was FINE. I have said it in every post?

Those mottos are not about being right or wrong or having a viewpoint..

They are about Promoting discussion.. as LONG as MANNERS are MAINTAINED.


Fury messed up a bit, but then she went APE #.
You were not here, so maybe you don't see how absolutely disgusting it was.



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 01:00 PM
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a reply to: nonspecific

And when she sees this I am going to have to apologize to her a second time for talking behind her back.

I don't like this at all.




posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: KnightLight
a reply to: nonspecific

No


That was what the other poster did.. This is not about you.

Her perspective was FINE. I have said it in every post?

Those mottos are not about being right or wrong or having a viewpoint..

They are about Promoting discussion.. as LONG as MANNERS are MAINTAINED.


Fury messed up a bit, but then she went APE #.
You were not here, so maybe you don't see how absolutely disgusting it was.


I thought we had moved on from that? If not then I appologise.

My opinions are my own. I am not a big fan of fathers day if I am honest.

One day a year to remember somone sounds like a manufactured event created by a card company to fill a gap if you ask me.

And how about every single person taht had a crap dad? Hey remember how a bully used to to beat you due to his own insecurities? todays the day!!

And all those guys that do not get to see there kids due to an angry ex? Hey everybody lets celebrate!!

This thread was dead before I even came along as bitterness and opinion had already set in so I feel no ill by saying these things.

That said to all those good fathers and happy sons and daughters out there I wish you well.



posted on Jun, 22 2015 @ 01:10 PM
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You are bitter about daddy issues, but you are agreeing with me.
I can't see how you are confused.

Maybe you think I am blaming you for messing up a thread?
I didn't say that. I said bringing this back up AGAIN..
It's not ok to talk about other posters who are not here.


AS in nice posts came later and got back on topic.
And you have to ruin it again, cause you are hurt.

You are kinda yucky.


But I'm smiling.



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