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"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws." - Cornelius Tacitus (55 - 117 A.D.)

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posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 12:04 PM
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Due to the fact of more and more laws passed by a corrupt government we are all guilty of a crime of some nature against the state. By definition if there is no individual victim who has been damaged then the crime is against the state. As a consequence of the ever increasing victimless crimes, the police mandate that was once “to serve and protect” the citizens has been perverted where they now substitute the “state” for the “citizens”.
As a consequence there are more opportunities for confrontation with the police, who are trained to believe that “crimes against the state” require the same level of enforcement as actual crimes. In short, the poor police have become the government’s glorified tax collectors with side arms. In reality, they are just a more obvious extension of the federal government’s theft of the property and freedom using the threat of violence. If anyone disagrees that the government doesn’t use violence, I suggest that one refuse to pay their income taxes and observe the armed officials that will appear and forcibly incarcerate you.




posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 12:57 PM
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good post...i'm just north of Plano....glad to know ya!



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 01:00 PM
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a reply to: billyjack
"The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." Ayn Rand.



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 06:45 PM
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Yep-
and there's nothing you (we) can do about it... So get used to being a criminal, and all of the things that you don't want that will come with it...



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: billyjack

By not paying your taxes, you'd get jailed quicker....or is that the plan?
Go in early on your own terms......



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 07:17 PM
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originally posted by: billyjack

Due to the fact of more and more laws passed by a corrupt government we are all guilty of a crime of some nature against the state. By definition if there is no individual victim who has been damaged then the crime is against the state. As a consequence of the ever increasing victimless crimes, the police mandate that was once “to serve and protect” the citizens has been perverted where they now substitute the “state” for the “citizens”.
As a consequence there are more opportunities for confrontation with the police, who are trained to believe that “crimes against the state” require the same level of enforcement as actual crimes. In short, the poor police have become the government’s glorified tax collectors with side arms. In reality, they are just a more obvious extension of the federal government’s theft of the property and freedom using the threat of violence. If anyone disagrees that the government doesn’t use violence, I suggest that one refuse to pay their income taxes and observe the armed officials that will appear and forcibly incarcerate you.


G,day mate
thankyou for a fine post and something worth thinking about and sharing with others
in fact Klassified also came back with a sterling comment
well done chaps
ques. have a plano case i keep by bow in does it come form your neck of the woods



posted on Jun, 21 2015 @ 05:25 AM
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Spot on! The government is deliberately passing laws to criminalise everyone it can partially in order to grab money via the police force. The backlash of this is that people now are beginning to hate the police and not cooperate with them. They no longer in the UK happily live among the public as respected citizens like they did 30 years ago, they either hide their work or live gated together.

That in itself is both dangerous for the police and the government because it leads to civil disorder and defiance with no real boundary beginning to occur of how far people will defy.

Amazing Tacitus got it right then so how have we evolved since that time - technologically brilliantly but as humans not so well as we have been shepherded into electing (without any choice) governments to bully us and don't hold them and their new global masters to account? Today even simple things, not taken seriously as crime have been developed for which one can go to jail and face heavy fines e.g. taking you kid out of school during term time.

Once a jailed criminal, society charges you extra for things like insurances, even (the pious poppies look down their snub snouts, till they get caught up). But people can't get work or can rarely get a job after prison. It allows the state to destroy you because the idea that you have been punished for your 'crime' and can now join re-society has been taken away - by governmental influence. People need to be given a clean slate for most crimes and allowed to start back easily - otherwise they have no choice sometimes but to go onto other crimes in order the exist. S&F for you.



posted on Jun, 21 2015 @ 05:29 AM
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One example of that is the cannabis laws - criminalising a naturally growing and multi-useful plant carries huge criminal consequences - and people have the right to choose what tobacco and medication they take its nannying and protectionism - which when one considers how little big pharma does for sick people today is a crime against all of humanity in itself, I won't go into the spiritual side of its aid to meditation and trance work etc.



posted on Jun, 21 2015 @ 05:43 AM
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The USA like the European Union is an example of 'rule by regulation' rather than 'the rule of law'. De facto the 'rule by regulation' falls to the Executive, so what it really means is that the Rule of Law is replaced by the rule of a person, a tyrant by any other definition. The abundance of regulations makes it potentially possible to criminalise everyone. Should you run afoul of the 'Man' at the top, all the Executive Branch need do is accuse you of violating regulations so that he can put you in prison or seize your assets and shut down your life.



posted on Jun, 23 2015 @ 01:55 PM
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My only beef here is that the state created money. The State created taxes.

The state uses taxes/money to pay itself. Of course fiat money has no real value.

Obviously the state is corrupt. It's creation of fiat currency is corrupt.

They create more money. They create more taxes.

Then rinse, and repeat.

Don't think it was ever an honest system to begin with.



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