originally posted by: MystikMushroom
a reply to: BELIEVERpriest
Racism is very much alive and well. We really haven't moved far forward from the civil rights movement of Dr. King. We've simply swept it under the
rug. People still tell racist jokes, just in private. People still would rather socialize, hire, marry and live next to people of their own skin
Telling a joke that is founded on stereotypes of different races is not racism.
Socializing, marrying and living next to people of their own skin color is not racist--it's human nature to want to do these things around people with
whom you have the most in common, and pretending that there is not (generally) a cultural difference between races is absurdly ignorant.
Hiring practices that are based on skin color is, IMO, racist--the best-qualified should get the job. But on the flip side, affirmative action is also
racist, because it does the same thing, forcing hiring based on skin color just to keep up an appearance of diversity.
If you really think that our society as a whole has not moved much beyond the civil rights movement, maybe you should read a book called "White Guilt"
by Shelby Steele--it discusses how black society is just as culpable in the death of true civil rights as any segment of white society (and it's
written by a black man who experienced Southern racism first hand).
Look at our 20- and 30-somethings today. If you truly tell me that this generation is not exceptionally less racist than the previous one that grew up
during the civil rights movement, then you're kidding yourself. When these young people start replacing the current, elderly leaders, we'll see swift
changes come aboard in attitude on race (I hope...meaning I wish it would stop being used as an excuse and mostly false accusation against other
We've intellectualized racism, and convinced ourselves it's gone -- no, it's just hiding in the closet. It's the big ugly gorilla in the room
that none of us want to talk about, and pretend isn't really there.
No we haven't, but like I said earlier, to a certain extent, much of the pure hatred-driven racism is dying off as previous generations do the same.
You talk about intellectualizing racism, but you have to understand that the term "racism" has actually been dumbed down to include things like
disapproving with the policies of a black president, or wanting to tighten up welfare spending, or wanting a photo ID requirement at voting booths.
Yes, all of this stuff comes with the label of "racist" now, even though many valid, non-racist points come along with these arguments made by
You say racism has been intellectualized, but I say it has been hijacked by the ignorant for political uses, and that the screams of racism done by
paid protestors and "Politics Nation" on MSNBC do not, even a bit, reflect the real feelings and actions on racism in this country. Racism will never
be gone, because it's human nature that some people hate other groups for whatever reason that they can come up with--most being fear or ignorance.
But you can't legislate that type of human nature away, and it will always exist somewhere inside some people.
In some quiet, predominately white suburban neighborhood, a housewife worries her property value will decrease as she sees a large black family
move in next door. After moving to a new town in the south, a white father investigates private schools for his daughter, as public schools do
poorly/have low funding/are full of poverty-striken minorities. This type of thing still happens on a daily basis folks, absolutely.
And in some quit suburban neighborhood, that same housewife could be black and be concerned about the new neighbors because they're loud and don't
like the amount of cars parked in front of their house and the way that it looks. The white father could be a black father doing the same thing
because he uses his intelligence and money to try to get the best education for his child(ren).
What you're failing to mention is that in that same suburban neighborhood, there are 5 other families near the house that meet and greet and welcome
the family into the neighborhood with genuine smiles and friendliness. In that Southern town, there are many black families fed up and protesting
against the terrible school district, just wishing that they could have the ability to send their child to a different school (but their elected
Democrats in power won't vote in a school voucher program).
There are many sides to the racism coin, and I'm not saying that you are saying this, but to pretend that it's a white-on-black racism--and only that
racism--that is the only or even the main culprit in this problem would be delusional.