What if God did not exist?.....I have always wondered wether or not Alein life forms belived in God..being much more advanced and older of a civilization. I mean this day and age...people are tending to drift away from God and Religion...well.thats what Iv seen..i could be wrong...What if these Alien Life Forms were to say that they dont belive in God..i mean..i think everyone in this planet would be utterly confused..of course...most major religous figures would call them demons..blah blah blah.....but how would you react?...

How would I react? Besides going omg aliens, omg aliens, omg aliens for a few hours....

I would respect their belief just as I'd want mine to be.

If the Pope said they were demons I wouldn't buy it, I stay away from mainstream religious factions.

I guess Helen would preach to them and try to convert them into Christians, thus giving them the chance of everlasting existance in Heaven with God in the threefold trinity.

Anyway, if this was to, or ever did happen, there would be no great loss. I mean the human race will still carry on doing what it has since the day it climbed down from the trees and walked out in to the savannah. And that is live procreate and die ignorant of what is really out there in the far reaches of the glaxley and human perception. No great loss really.

Some might think there would be less wars, hate and misunderstanding.

But, what if the aliens came and told us that they are God and the creaters of us all. Not a new concept at all. But how would we humans react at that. All out inter/intraplanetary war I think.

That question has no more meaning than "What if God DOES exist".

Originally posted by Leveller
That question has no more meaning than "What if God DOES exist".

And with that very informative post Leveller can now account himself resposible for 372 posts thats .42% of all posts at ATS. Keep up the good quality of posting there leveller. Congratulations.

Any way we already have one of these threads going anyway.

Why did you not post there Zero Deep?

[Edited on 7-6-2003 by Maddas]

Originally posted by Lysergic
If the Pope said they were demons I wouldn't buy it, I stay away from mainstream religious factions.

You calling the Catholic Church a mainstream religious Faction????

Faction: Small dissentient group within a larger one.

Thats sounds really uneducated to me, since aren't all christion religions fractions of the catholic church in someway or another. Or are you calling the Pope a dissentient group within the Catholic church, if this is it then your comment is laughable.

Or do you mean faction in the sence of a literary style in which real events are used as a bases for a fictional narrative or dramatization. ?????

What the hell do you mean man?





[Edited on 7-6-2003 by Maddas]

Originally posted by Maddas
I guess Helen would preach to them and try to convert them into Christians, thus giving them the chance of everlasting existance in Heaven with God in the threefold trinity.

Anyway, if this was to, or ever did happen, there would be no great loss. I mean the human race will still carry on doing what it has since the day it climbed down from the trees and walked out in to the savannah. And that is live procreate and die ignorant of what is really out there in the far reaches of the glaxley and human perception. No great loss really.

Some might think there would be less wars, hate and misunderstanding.

But, what if the aliens came and told us that they are God and the creaters of us all. Not a new concept at all. But how would we humans react at that. All out inter/intraplanetary war I think.

Maddas......just by me posting about what I know and would like to share with others does not make me know that ''I will go to heaven!
Though what I do know is that I would not like to go to hell!!!
But hey,im not mad

See I'm Smiling!

Any way we already have one of these threads going anyway.

Why did you not post there Zero Deep?
Im really new to this forum..and never saw those threads...this idea just came to my head and i thought i would ask for other peoples opinions..if had of known there were other threads i would have posted thier...sorry..
Deep

That question has no more meaning than "What if God DOES exist".

Lets look at the language used: "What if God did not exist?".

This question assumes that God DOES exist.

Leveller is logically correct- this question has exactly the same meaning if you were to phrase it as, "What if God DOES exist".

This question assumes that God does not exist. Thus, they both have an equal meaning, and in fact cancel each other out because of it.

Logic is not just something to increase postcount, it is a legitimate field of study that is quite enjoyable to some of us.

Perhaps it could be more fairly phrased as "Has God ever existed?".

What if God never existed? What if the construct of God is a complete fabrication designed to encase the boundaries of human speculation. Because the common argument goes, "we can't prove God exists because the entire point is that you need to have faith". What exact benefit do humans get from faith? Does faith simply provide a cursory, heuristic explanation of that which we are unable to explain through our own empirical observations?

Are we so naive to think that we have a firm grip on all of the intricacies of the functioning of the universe? Why do we ascribe a humanlike quality to the creation of the universe? Is the concept of God starting the entire universe merely a logical correlate of the belief that earth/humanity is the center of the universe?

[Edited on 7-6-2003 by MKULTRA]

Maddas - my post wasn't meant to be dismissive of the question in the title of this thread. As MKULTRA stated - it was a question in itself.
Maybe I should have worded it better and explained why I posted it - I apologise.

MKULTRA - It was meant to be a totally logical question. You got it dead right, dude.

Of course there is no God....

Our lives are being run by an old man sitting on a cloud and throwing down his wrath, tossing the unbelievers in a pit of fire and brimstone? Nope, I don't buy it either...

Nice to see other intelligent life in the universe....

*Shakes the aliens' hands*

Originally posted by MKULTRA

What exact benefit do humans get from faith? [Edited on 7-6-2003 by MKULTRA]

Faith is an excuse for purpose.
Without faith, life would be hard to live. Nobody wants to believe that they will never get all of the answers to life - even after death.
Faith defies logic. That doesn't make it wrong if faith works for someone else. But for me, it doesn't.
I believe I have purpose without faith.
Belief is a totally different thing from faith, in my eyes.
I'm happier to look at it that way.

Gazrok makes an interesting point about aliens.
What if we meet several different species of alien in the next century or so? What if these aliens are all way more advanced than we are (as is probable)? What if they have no concept of a god? What if they don't have faith?
Would you still be able to keep yours?

I'm not a beliver of GOD myself, but i do respect my religion sikhism. I belive in its way of life, the morals and values it teaches. I think religion and faith gives us security and a set of rules and guidlines to follow through life.