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9 dead in shooting at South Carolina church Senator Clementa Pinckney killed

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posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 01:53 PM
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originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: kaylaluv
Was Kristen Washington there, too?

No! Kristen Washington was NOT there. Whatever she claims comes second-hand:


www.nytimes.com...
....said Kristen Washington, who heard the harrowing story from her family members who were at the meeting and survived.


Another second-hand account:


www.nytimes.com...
The gunman looked at one woman and told her “that she was going to live so that she can tell the story of what happened,” said City Councilman William Dudley Gregorie, a friend of the woman and a trustee of the church.



The only surviving witnesses I have come across are these:
--Felicia (Sanders?)(mother to Tywanza Sanders, 26)
--niece (to Tywanza Sanders, 26)
--"one woman" (Gunman told her “that she was going to live so that she can tell the story of what happened”)

So why haven't we heard the first-hand accounts of the witnesses? Good question. Maybe what they saw doesn't jibe with the official version.

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Also came across this story. Sounds like the doc has some questions, too:

www.buzzfeed.com...
While (attending physician at the Medical University of South Carolina’s emergency room) Dr. Edward O’Bryan admitted has no way of knowing exactly what happened inside the Emanuel AME church, he speculated that “if someone enters a room and starts spraying gunshots around, there will be other injuries.”
“We didn’t see any of those,” he said.

Like I said, we're probably dealing with a professional killer(s), not some kid spraying bullets.

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posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 02:23 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
emphasis on "leaked". ...rest assured, when the leaks are found, they will rapidly become unemployed, or should.
Not to mention the DA's office is probably beyond pissed off.

I assure you that the 'leak' was intentional. They needed it to convince the public of the suspect's guilt. They certainly don't have any evidence, as I pointed out in a previous post.



originally posted by: Sremmos80
Was he convicted?

No one knows. If he pled guilty, or was convicted, or had a pending court date, he should not have been able to legally acquire the weapon. If the charges were dropped, allowing him to legally buy the gun, they then have to explain why the charges were dropped. Either way, someone needs to do some 'splainen.




originally posted by: AmericanZombie
1 day after the families are forgiving him, they have not even had the time to experience shock. ,,, Where did he get the body armor?

We saw some of the same strange rush to forgive after Sandy Hook. Not natural, IMO.
(The body armor he was wearing as he was being transported(if that's what you're referring to) was provided by his jailors for his protection.)




originally posted by: diggindirt
Has there been any mention of the recovery of the weapon he used? I've read quite a few articles but none mentioned it. ... Where is the gun presently?

I believe the Glock was in the car when he was arrested. Now it's in the custody of the Charleston PD or the BATF, I assume.



originally posted by: AmericanZombie
We will never find out the media will go silent on him and his background just as they did with the Boston Bombers.

You are right. They will release very little new info from this point on. They have come to the realization that more info just leads to more conspiracy theories.



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 02:50 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: diggindirt

Hard programing against another race is ONLY possible if the family doesn't STOP it.
THIS is nothing but a screwed up kid what isn't known is WHY.


My guess, and its just a guess, is a type of Schizophrenia.




Most people who are diagnosed with schizophrenia have their first symptoms and episode in their 20s — early to mid-20s for men, a little later (late-20s) for women.

psychcentral.com...



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 03:13 PM
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a reply to: AmericanZombie

I don't see his direct hand in this. It's one thing to be pissed about the Progs and their ignorant philosophes,it's quite anther to DIRECTLY attack innocent people.



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Unless he hooked up with the wrong crowd or Daddy spews that trash,I can't tell yet.
WHERE EVER he got it, it's by God appalling.
I still say he's screwed up.



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 03:20 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: AmericanZombie

I don't see his direct hand in this. It's one thing to be pissed about the Progs and their ignorant philosophes,it's quite anther to DIRECTLY attack innocent people.


There are a lot of screwed up people. But, what pushes them over the edge to do something like this?

That's why my guess is, its more then just being screwed up.



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: Annee

I would jump in with the MKULTRA crowd but HOW are they doing THAT?
It would HAVE to be quick and possibly a signal I would guess but I DON'T know ...yet.
In the mean time this kid is played into a myopic tool and he vectors to kill these people.
I can ONLY call it crazy with what I know know now but I SUSPECT far more.
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posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 03:59 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: Annee

I would jump in with the MKULTRA crowd but HOW are they doing THAT?
It would HAVE to be quick and possibly a signal I would guess but I DON'T know ...yet.
In the mean time this kid is played into a myopic tool and he vectors to kill these people.
I can ONLY call it crazy with what I know know now but I SUSPECT far more.


Obviously, I believe there are conspiracies or I wouldn't be here.

But, in this case I don't see it. I see a young man with extreme irrational beliefs.

Then I ask myself - - what would attribute to such extreme irrational beliefs that makes a person act on them.

My personal guess is still Schizophrenia. But, of course, I could be wrong.
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posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 04:00 PM
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a reply to: Annee

THAT would be SO obvious to people wouldn't it?



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 04:41 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

Noy saying this is what happened. Only that thr possibility does indeed exist:


Covert neurological communication systems are in place to counteract independent thinking andto control social and political activity on behalf of self-serving private and military interests.When our brain functions are already is connected to supercomputers by means of radio implantsand microchips, it will be too late for protest. This threat can be defeated only by educating thepublic, using available literature on biotelemetry and information exchanged at internationalcongresses. One reason this technology has remained a state secret is the widespread prestige ofthe psychiatric DIAGNOSTIC STATISTICAL MANUAL IV produced by the U.S. AmericanPsychiatric Association (APA), and printed in 18 languages. Psychiatrists working for U.S.intelligence agencies no doubt participated in writing and revising this manual. This psychiatric“bible” covers up the secret development of MC technologies by labelling some of their effectsas symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia. Victims of mind control experimentation are thusroutinely diagnosed, knee-jerk fashion, as mentally ill by doctors who learned the DSM“symptom” list in medical school. Physicians have not been schooled that patients may be tellingthe truth when they report being targeted against their will or being used as guinea pigs forelectronic, chemical and bacteriological forms of psychological warfare.


Microchip Implants, Mind Control andCybernetics Posted onFebruary 20, 2011by Rauni-Leena Luukanen-Kilde, MDFormer Chief Medical Officer of FinlandDecember 6, 2000 .PDF file

There is a good amount of credible research that can be done down these rabbit holes.



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 04:42 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: Annee

THAT would be SO obvious to people wouldn't it?


And what's wrong with Obvious?

Are you saying because something might be obvious, it can't be the truth?

Everything is not a conspiracy. Schizophrenia is real.




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posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 04:48 PM
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a reply to: Annee

No Ma'am, I'm saying they would have told someone to help him.
a person acting TOO haywire would have called attention to such a thing,this doesn't look like that.
A kid searching for a purpose or family got somehow SUCKED into that.
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posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 06:10 PM
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Tywanza Sanders posted a Jackie Robinson quote on Instagram just three days ago: "A life is not important except in the impact it has on others' lives."

It is also being said that Mashable obtained a Snap Chat video recorded by Tywanza Sanders just moments before Roof opened fire on the bible study group. It shows a white male at the far end that supposedly resembles Roof. Interesting,
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posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 07:03 PM
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a reply to: queenofswords

That video is said to be the source of the images shown of him in the meeting before the shooting. I imagine it will become evidence.



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 07:21 PM
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The suspect's first target was apparently a local college, according to friends:


www.msn.com...
... the suspect(Dylann Roof) told him a week earlier that he planned to shoot up a college campus in the city. ..."He just said he was going to hurt a bunch of people" at the College of Charleston(CoC), said Scriven, 22.



Four months earlier, on Feb 10, 2015, this was the scene at CoC:



On that day the college was the recipient of a phoned-in bomb- and shooting- threat. Listen to the 911 call at this link

www.postandcourier.com...


www.charlestonbusiness.com...
A man who identified himself as “Zach” called police to say he put a bomb in the college’s Beatty Center and he was thinking about shooting people.



www.postandcourier.com...
...officers with rifles burst into some classrooms at the college to deal with the threat. ... Officers with rifles were also seen searching the grounds. .... Agencies called in to assist the college and its public safety officers include the FBI; Charleston police and fire; Ports Authority police and the Air Force Base bomb squad.


Oddly, even though the caller stayed on the phone for at least five minutes, they were unable to trace the call. Imagine that! Though the local PD got in plenty of good "crisis training." Of course it was all just coincidence! Isn't it always?


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posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 07:57 PM
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AND now we have THESE ASSHOLES..heavy.com...

THESE "WHITEYS" ASSES you CAN kick ...just get it on film...
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posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 08:12 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

Now that is something we all can agree on!



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 08:39 PM
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PLEASE watch this video. Not sure if it has been posted but this shows a lot...

Link

He wanted to shoot up that University...do not let the MSM make this racism. A racist would not live with someone who was black. A little common sense...it is all seeming to staged at this point.


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posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 08:48 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

WE AGREE on most everything DEEP down it's the NUANCES we get pissed off over.If THAT wasn't true we would have KILLED the left LONG ago...



posted on Jun, 21 2015 @ 02:10 PM
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It's amateur hour at the MSM! Another phony second-hand account:


www.latimes.com...
...suspected gunman Dylann Roof tried to kill himself, according to the son of one of the victims.
"He pointed the gun at his head and pulled the trigger, but it went 'click,'" because the chamber was empty, said Kevin Singleton, the son of 59-year-old Myra Thompson. “His plan was never to leave that church,” Singleton said. Singleton said he and his family were told the story by Polly Sheppard, 69, one of two adult survivors of the massacre that left nine people dead.


Of course, when the mag on a semi-automatic handgun has run out of bullets, the slide moves backwards and is locked into place. This also locks the trigger--it can't be moved at all until you load another mag and slam the bolt home. A semi-automatic does NOT go "click" when it runs out of bullets.
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