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9 dead in shooting at South Carolina church Senator Clementa Pinckney killed

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posted on Jun, 19 2015 @ 10:23 PM
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a reply to: humanityrising
MKUltra is not even a conspiracy anymore it's a fact, the conspiracy is did they ever end the program, or was it passed off to a contractor. So, yes I believe a mind altering drug could work.




posted on Jun, 19 2015 @ 10:30 PM
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Reminder....

Please, let's stay on topic, which is the horrific shooting in a SC Church.
Gun control is another topic for another thread.
Talking about/to other members belongs in Private Messages.
And this thread should not be a furthering HATE:

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edit on Fri Jun 19 2015 by DontTreadOnMe because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 19 2015 @ 11:28 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: starviego
You ignored every single thing I said. Or tried to argue, and then ignored the response to said argument.

I have not responded to your posts because you did score some valid points, and I only generally respond if your logic or facts are incorrect. But let me re-iterate my main arguments:


The Arraignment Issue

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: starviego
... Because literally right after your quote is "additional charges are expected to be filed."

My main point is we don't know how he pled, we don't know if he was provided a lawyer, or, if he was, that lawyer's identity.


The "U.S. Corrections Special Operations Group" issue

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: starviego
All jails and prisons have a special response team under one name or another. ....

But IF in fact he is being held by the US C-SOG, then Roof and his investigation are literally surrounded on all sides by the Feds, as US C-SOG almost certainly takes it orders(and funding) from Washington, not Charlestown. There were even some early reports that Roof was arrested by the FBI, not the local Shelby, N.C. PD.


The Background Check Issue

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: starviego
Background checks - an arrest doesn't prevent a purchase. A conviction or being under indictment does. ...

You didn't cite a source for your assertion. Another source had this to say:


danaloeschradio.com...
In South Carolina, you only have to be charged with a felony to lose your Second Amendmend right. Roof would have failed a background check to purchase a firearm.


The point is that you have two versions of the Feb. arrest, and no one in media seems curious about this, or how he got his gun two months after being arrested for felony possession of drugs.


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posted on Jun, 19 2015 @ 11:43 PM
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a reply to: starviego

They are reporting that Roof's father gifted him a .45 hand gun for his 21st b-day:



Mass-murdering racist Dylann Roof prepared for the deadly rampage at a black South Carolina church by honing his killing skills with a 21st birthday present from his father — a .45-caliber handgun.

www.nydailynews.com...



posted on Jun, 19 2015 @ 11:44 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Ironic coincidence it is.



posted on Jun, 19 2015 @ 11:48 PM
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a reply to: deadeyedick

They've no doubt experimented with this. The problem is when the victim comes out of the controlled state and realises what kind of mess they're in.

Though, no doubt they've created weaponized strains which last much longer, are untraceable, etc...



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 12:01 AM
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originally posted by: AmericanZombie
They are reporting that Roof's father gifted him a .45 hand gun for his 21st b-day:

Yes, but they are also reporting that he bought the gun himself with his birthday money, or that he took it surreptitiously from his mother's possession. Take your pick. Tomorrow they will have another version.



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 12:02 AM
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a reply to: starviego

Was he convicted?

You linked that he has to be convicted if the felony.



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 12:31 AM
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a reply to: Spider879

Not me,he's a VERIFIED drug user and a prior offender.
Probably has a plethora of anti social mental issues from that "Dad" of his as well.
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posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 12:34 AM
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a reply to: starviego


I'm with you, the whole story stinks. 1 day after the families are forgiving him, they have not even had the time to experience shock. Then the reports of the FBI arrested him contrary to the local police. Where did he get the body armor?



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 12:45 AM
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Nm, don't want to restart that convo
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posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 12:55 AM
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a reply to: AmericanZombie

So what is then picture of the guy walking into the church of?



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 12:56 AM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: diggindirt

Don't tell them how easy it is for criminals to get guns as well ...it screws up their "GUNCONTROL will work" ideas, THEY hate that.


As the mods have repeatedly pointed out---this thread is about the murder of 9 people in Charleston. Can we stay on that topic please?

My heart goes out to all those affected by this tragedy. I have no idea what would cause the wiring of a human's brain to go so badly awry that they would sit with people for an hour in perfect peace then turn a gun on them. I can't wrap my head around that scene.



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 01:02 AM
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Has there been any mention of the recovery of the weapon he used? I've read quite a few articles but none mentioned it. A lot going on here today so sorry if I missed a link.
I know there is a lot of speculation about who purchased it but my question is: Where is the gun presently?



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 01:19 AM
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a reply to: diggindirt

Hard programing against another race is ONLY possible if the family doesn't STOP it.
THIS is nothing but a screwed up kid what isn't known is WHY.

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posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 09:20 AM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

Or a President.



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 11:03 AM
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They have cameras outside the Church.

Do they have cameras inside?

Hmmm.



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 11:21 AM
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The news showed the pics and names of those that were killed. Other than Pinckney, most of them seemed to be old women.



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: queenofswords
The news showed the pics and names of those that were killed. Other than Pinckney, most of them seemed to be old women.


Except for the young man just out of college who offered to take the bullet that Roof was aiming at his 87-year-old aunt. When Roof said it didn't matter because he was going to kill both of them, the young man still stood in front of his aunt to take the first bullet anyway. Absolutely heartbreaking.


Sanders died while trying to save his 87-year-old aunt, Susie Jackson. When Roof aimed his gun at Jackson, Sanders asked him to point the gun at him instead, their family member, Kristen Washington told the New York Times. Roof then said, “It doesn’t matter, I’m going to shoot all of you.”
Sanders stood between Roof and his aunt to save her, and the first bullet struck him. He was the youngest victim of the shooting, and his aunt, the oldest.

www.buzzfeed.com...



posted on Jun, 20 2015 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Was Kristen Washington there, too? Was she the one that he allowed to live "to tell the story"? If not, has the name been released of that witness?



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