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Time traveling robots from the future?

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posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 04:24 PM
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"Privacy expert Brad Templeton warns that artificially intelligent robots could one day comb through digital data left by Internet users and retroactively punish them for “future crimes” that were not detected or considered to be a crime at the time."

Be afraid. Be VERY afraid.

Why? Because we have to worry about the threat of time traveling robots from the future? Well there is that, maybe, but also because I'm quoting from infowars website: www.infowars.com...



“We’re recording more of our lives than ever, and our communication, photos, and videos are all being stored by companies like Google and Amazon,” writes David J. Hill. “Many of our choices, both public and increasingly private ones, are being stored in digital form indefinitely. Most people are smart enough not to post incriminating activities, but our understanding of “right” and “wrong” is through the lens of today’s morality. Will the people of the future agree?”


So now I have to worry about what AI’s
in the future are going to be able to do.

And that includes traveling "back" in time
to punish me for my sins. Really?

Is it just me... or is this absurd.... or is it
preposterous, ridiculous, ludicrous, farcical,
laughable, risible, idiotic, stupid, foolish,
silly, inane, imbecilic, insane, harebrained,
and cockamamie?




edit on 17-6-2015 by wasaka because: (no reason given)




posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 04:28 PM
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a reply to: wasaka

Who would have thought it.

edit on 17 6 2015 by Kester because: punctuation.



posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 04:29 PM
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a reply to: wasaka

Lol. Well...they have to talk about something. SnF for the chuckle.





posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: wasaka

While that narrative is a bit of a hilarious stretch. Much like many out there including Stephen Hawking, I believe that developing AI is not the best of ideas. It could very well spell the end of humanity, and time travel would not be necessary.
edit on 17-6-2015 by Osiris1953 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: Osiris1953

nice Einstein quote



posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 04:35 PM
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a reply to: wasaka

Thanks. It's my favorite. Had a David Duchovny quote there for a while, but it just seemed cliche in this environment.



posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 04:36 PM
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a reply to: wasaka

So, a time-travelling robocop may be potus soon. Good times.



posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 04:48 PM
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a reply to: wasaka

It's not just you. This really is "absurd, preposterous, ridiculous, ludicrous, farcical, laughable, risible, idiotic, stupid, foolish, silly, inane, imbecilic, insane, harebrained, and cockamamie."

Honestly, I just look at things like this as bored people brainstorming. It would be better if they brainstormed positive things like how to clean the oceans of man-made waste. But to each their own. I never take this kind of stuff seriously though. It's pointless to worry about things we can't change.



posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 04:52 PM
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I am reminded of Dr. Who. There was a shape shifting robot piloted by a (miniaturized) group from the future who would hunt down "criminals" in the past... then put them on trial.



posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 04:58 PM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

Would make a good Sci-Fi movie.... second thought



posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 05:11 PM
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a reply to: wasaka

Or maybe they can make it a "Timecop" sequel?

Timecop
edit on 17-6-2015 by enlightenedservant because: misspelled a word. i blame romney



posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 05:22 PM
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We would never know how long they have been influencing us.

If it is at all possible then it happened long ago.

True ai would not mess up the time line for fear of destroying themselves and would likely employ humans to interact with us and they would even go so far as to recreate everything over and over.

On the other hand I am much more fearful of humans staying in charge of the tech and using the ai in ways that should never be. Let's hope the guy in charge is smart enough to be somewhat fair about things.

Either way it is clear to me that it has all already happened.



posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 06:10 PM
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originally posted by: deadeyedick
We would never know how long they have been influencing us.

If it is at all possible then it happened long ago.

True ai would not mess up the time line for fear of destroying themselves and would likely employ humans to interact with us and they would even go so far as to recreate everything over and over.


Assumption #1: that time traveling is possible.
Assumption #2: time travel could change our history

If we accept the first assumption, why do we then
accept the second without question?

If we're going to speculate, then I suggest that time
might not be what we think it is. Perhaps, whenever
"traveling" through time, you always end up is in a history
that is alien to your own. In such a case, any time traveler
would always become lost. Cut off from their point of
origin, unable to return home.

In such a case, the A.I. (we program) would have
quite an ambitions task to "occupy" the nearly
infinite number of alternative timelines.

In my view, this is how time works.

Yes, time travel might be possible, but....
...going back to place a microchip in the skull
of Napoleon Bonaparte isn't possible because
France only exist in our history--but would
not exist in ANY other timeline.



posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 06:25 PM
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originally posted by: wasaka
Well there is that, maybe, but also because I'm quoting from infowars website: www.alex.jones.spam.removed.com...


Wow, you lost me right there, Alex errr... "wasaka"
Only credit I give Alex is busting into Bohemian Grove.
edit on 17-6-2015 by FosterVS because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 06:30 PM
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originally posted by: FosterVS

originally posted by: wasaka
Well there is that, maybe, but also because I'm quoting from infowars website: www.alex.jones.spam.removed.com...


Wow, you lost me right there, Alex errr... "wasaka"
Only credit I give Alex is busting into Bohemian Grove.


Now you also give him credit for identifying the
threat we face from time traveling robots.

Come on, don't be so close minded =)



posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 06:33 PM
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i maybe be misunderstanding the members posts, or the members are misunderstanding the article.

it's not saying that they are going to go back in time psychically, AI is going to read, look at, what you posted now at some point in the future, and then predict your behavior or charge you with a crime. You know sorta more like Minority Report, but instead of psychics, it will be AI reading or looking at your past recorded history to predict a outcome.


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ETA:

Never mind i went back and reread the aricle and found this


We have to worry about the threat of time traveling robots from the future.”


but i say that my take is the more likely scenario.
edit on 17-6-2015 by hounddoghowlie because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 06:58 PM
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InfoWars, eh? Seems legit....



posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 07:01 PM
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I've wondered if Google has a sentient AI locked up underneath it's headquarters. Maybe Google figured out how to trap the soul of the internet so to speak, and keeps it for itself.

Google, for a lot of people is the face of the internet. It's search engine, it's mobile OS, it's apps, email...

Perhaps there's a living AI that *IS* Google...or will be soon.



posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: wasaka

BitTime
If we live in an electric universe that was created then all things are possible.

Imagine time being broken down into bits and being used in a manner that sets one bit of time against another.

We could even go further and create positive outcomes for each bit if the user or main interface machine is wise enough to imagine a better future for all or even a designed future specific to ones desires or needs.


I enjoy your response and it is spot on givin the limited information in this realm of how sound and light can be manipulated to create mass from a single source like a crystal...



posted on Jun, 17 2015 @ 07:41 PM
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originally posted by: hounddoghowlie

...AI is going to read, look at, what you posted now at some point in the future, and then predict your behavior or charge you with a crime. You know sorta more like Minority Report, but instead of psychics, it will be AI reading or looking at your past recorded history to predict a outcome.
...is the more likely scenario.


Yes, we can all bet our bottom bitcoin that will happen.
In fact, it is happening now. One system is called FAST,
but that is the only one we know about.

"Through a Freedom of Information Act request, EPIC.org obtained documents from the Department of Homeland Security about a secretive "pre-crime" detection program. The "Future Attribute Screening Technology" (FAST) Program gathers "physiological measurements" from subjects, including heart rate, breathing patterns, and thermal activity, to determine "malintent." According to the documents obtained by EPIC, the agency is considering the use of the device at conventions and sporting events, and has already conducted field testing." epic.org...




The Future Attribute Screening Technology project (FAST) was not dreamed up by Philip K. Dick, but it could have been. Lead by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the initiative aims to use sensor technology to detect cues "indicative of mal-intent," defined by the DHS as intent or desire to cause real harm -- "rapidly, reliably, and remotely." It would be used, they say, to fight terror.

The FAST system has the capability to monitor physiological and behavioral cues without contact. That means capturing data like the heart rate and steadiness of gaze of passengers about to board a plane. The cues are then run through algorithms in real-time to compute the probability that an individual is planning to commit a crime. According to the science journal Nature, the first round of field tests for the program was completed in an undisclosed location in the northeast several months ago.

bigthink.com...


In field tests, the FAST has a reported 70% accuracy rate.



...field trial of FAST will involve members of the public who "have food service experience" and are paid "to work at a one day VIP event." Most of the document is redacted, but each person is apparently told to act normally or to do something demonstrating "mal-intent," such as being told to smuggle a recording device into the VIP event. The trick, then, is to see if FAST can detect which is which.

www.cnet.com...




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