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originally posted by: TrappedPrincess
You know I have pretty thick skin and a robust sense of humor but this thread has spiraled into what amounts to pure mockery of people who suffer from identity issues. It's like watching a bunch of middle schoolers taunt the "different" kid.
originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: Darth_Prime
O for heavens sake what I am saying is you can get boobs,get your adams apple chopped out,grow your hair long,get your bits docked,shave off all your body hair,put polish on your nails,do whatever you want I wont call you female because you never had nor never will have the capacity and equipment to have a baby.
originally posted by: eletheia
originally posted by: Cloudbuster
a reply to: khnum
Some people are born with both baby making parts uterus and testie pens and vaginal. And one woman in the news recently had two vaginas and two uterus. Not sure what the chromosomes were of the people with both parts..... but It can happen.
AGREE they are BORN that way ... makes it unusual, but
'normal' as sometimes happens in nature....
Not *manually* altered and made to fit.
If man had not become so proficient at surgery, what would be the answer to these *modern* problems?
Here's a thought, what will happen when science discovers how to alter
skin colour Michael Jackson ?
originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: grandmakdw
Science tells me I'm a brunette, yet I've been a blonde my whole life. I identify as a blonde.
Science tells me I have hairy legs, yet they are smooth as I keep them that way from preference to be in line with "gender" identities created by society.
Science tells me my underarms should be hairy, but my preference is to not be identified as a woman with hairy underarms, again, to be in line with "gender" identities created by society.
Science tells me I should have fallen pregnant every time I had sexual intercourse during ovulation but I chose to "manipulate" my hormones to avoid pregnancy.
Science tells me my breasts should be larger, but I had them reduced.
Science told a young male relative he should have a left breast (Gynecomastia) but he had it removed as his preference was to not have breasts.
Our identity is none of your business.
Your claims of trans people wagging their junk in peoples faces is ludicrous, offensive and false.
If you value your own identity, please afford others the same courtesy.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Dfairlite
I'm not talking about having surgery at age 4. I'm talking about letting your son wear dresses and grow his hair long and calling him a female name, if he expresses the need or desire to do that. I'm talking about a PERSISTENT desire or need. If your child is PERSISTENT about being the opposite gender, you send them to therapy so professionals can evaluate this persistence. If the professionals agree that your child is probably transgender, you can opt to give them puberty blockers to hold off puberty until a more final decision can be made regarding hormone treatment. After all of that (and several years later), if the child still wants surgery, it can be done and the full transition will be much more successful.
Those who fully transition before puberty makes permanent changes have the best psycho- social adjustment. A member of ATS, Jadestar, has posted on a few of these threads with her positive experience transitioning early. She appears to be a very happy, well-adjusted young lady. The key is good therapy, supportive family, and a few years of reflection to make this very important decision.
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: grandmakdw
I think I have decided I am 16, I really feel 16
Well, from what I've seen of you on ATS, you are doing a great job of acting 16, too!
All you can do is pull insults because you disagree with me most of the time.
Your post has zero to do with the OP, and your post and this response by all rights
should be deleted and censured by Mods.
What about you? What have you decided to be regardless of your genetics or birth certificate, telomeres, or DNA?