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Ex-NAACP Leader Rachel Dolezal: ‘I Identify as Black’

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posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 11:52 AM
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It just occurred to me that this woman causes those that actually have an ethnic heritage yet are pale. Or as I say albino to have an even more difficult time being ourselves.




posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 11:56 AM
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I identify as a member of the Shakopee Mdewakanton Tribe in Minnesota, they each make a 1 million a year at least from their casinos....

Can I apply for my benefits now?



posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 12:00 PM
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I think I will choose to identify as being Emperor of the World.



posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 12:14 PM
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Maybe she's a 007/agent. There are rumors of agents that infiltrate every group, like the militias for instance. She probably was an agent and then outted for a particular agenda. The NAacp has probably been infiltrated and watered down not to long after it's inception. And I find it ironic that this news comes out during Tupac Shakur's birthday, which is today by the way. Anything to take an ascended master's shine.



posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: Teeky
Maybe she's a 007/agent. There are rumors of agents that infiltrate every group, like the militias for instance. She probably was an agent and then outted for a particular agenda. The NAacp has probably been infiltrated and watered down not to long after it's inception. And I find it ironic that this news comes out during Tupac Shakur's birthday, which is today by the way. Anything to take an ascended master's shine.


Huh? And Tupac is an ascended master? Did he become ultra religious or a monk or something when I wasn't looking? Or are all gangsta's who die in drive-by's ascended masters? Why would anyone care that this story is out right now? It broke before Tupac's birthday and unless he was actually white I am not really sure how this has anything to do with it.



posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 12:26 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

The story broke right before his birthday. And is still being paraded around today (his birthday). An ascended master need not be religious; but must be spiritual, live life to it's fullest, and live life without fear, and to fight the powers that be.



posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: klassified

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: klassified

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
I think a LOT more is going to come out about this lady and her delusions. I have a feeling a LOT of her past is a complete fabrication from the things I have read about her.

What I'm curious to see is how her parents and family eventually play into all of this.


I think she is a pathological liar personally. Her entire family has come out stating she is a huge fake. Even her brother said she asked him not to blow her cover as a "black woman" and refuted her claims of growing up like a slave and living in a teepee and hunting food with bows and arrows....SERIOUSLY! She claims these things are true.

I would not be surprised if this became a Lifetime movie or something in the near future......

The question then, becomes why? Why did she feel the need to identify as anything other than what she was?


To game the system.



posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 12:28 PM
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Maybe she has Ethnic Identity Disorder



Racial Identity Disorder is an abnormal psychological condition where the subject wishes they were another race.

This disorder is marked by having 2 or more of the following symptoms:

#Refusal to be addressed by any other race.
#Engagement in activities stereotypical of the other race.
#Extreme disgust of there own race (adversion to skin color, body type, or social status).
#Adoption of typically dress, speech, and behavior of racial group in question.
#Changing name to further represent other race.
#Relocation to area prevalent with said race.


She may have this disorder or she may be lying... But I don't think there's a requirement for the NAACP position to be a black person...



posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 12:38 PM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

That's the first thing I thought of when reading the story. Ethnic Identity Disorder. But then I read how she (allegedly) threatened one of her brothers and told him not to 'out her' to the NAACP. That tells me she's aware that she's not black but that she wants to live black and is willing to lie about it. So her acknowledging that she isn't really black like that could discount an Ethnic Identity Disorder diagnosis. Only a psychologist dealing with her directly could know for sure.

I'm sure the NAACP doesn't care what race a person is. They just want people to help be rid of racism and disenfranchisement. But at the same time, I'm sure the NAACP doesn't want people to be lying and threatening others ... and there are also reports that she sent herself fake threatening letters at the NAACP office. I'm sure they want no part of distractions like that in their organization.



posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 12:40 PM
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originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
Maybe she has Ethnic Identity Disorder



Racial Identity Disorder is an abnormal psychological condition where the subject wishes they were another race.

This disorder is marked by having 2 or more of the following symptoms:

#Refusal to be addressed by any other race.
#Engagement in activities stereotypical of the other race.
#Extreme disgust of there own race (adversion to skin color, body type, or social status).
#Adoption of typically dress, speech, and behavior of racial group in question.
#Changing name to further represent other race.
#Relocation to area prevalent with said race.


She may have this disorder or she may be lying... But I don't think there's a requirement for the NAACP position to be a black person...


I don't think there is a requirement either. The problem here is that she lied to people and let them believe she WAS black. I could care less what color you are, but when you are deliberately trying to deceive (changing appearance and demeanor) those you are trying to help then there is a problem.



posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 12:48 PM
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originally posted by: Teeky
a reply to: Vasa Croe

The story broke right before his birthday. And is still being paraded around today (his birthday). An ascended master need not be religious; but must be spiritual, live life to it's fullest, and live life without fear, and to fight the powers that be.


I don't think there are enough people in the world that care about Tupac for this to have mattered. Was there some huge celebration of him that I was missed because of this story?

He was lauded as a visionary in his music ability and lyrics....that is hardly something that will last the test of time. Plenty of great musical artists have come and gone. This is not some conspiracy to discredit Tupac after 20 years of being dead.

As far as being spiritually ascended.....I had no idea spiritual ascension was had by fighting and thugging....sure his music was good, but he was no spiritually righteous master...



posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

There's always been so much controversy concerning people of color passing for white... I doubt most people would feel comfortable bringing any of that up, or even criticizing it in the same way as they freely criticize this

Her story/situation is so interesting - isn't it?
She clearly has some issues with her white parents. She was raised with her adopted black brothers. She married a black man...

She traced misconceptions about her background to local news media reports that first identified her as “transracial,” then as biracial and then as black. “I never corrected that,” she said — even as she insisted that there was nothing to correct.

In fact, her role has not been so passive — she has identified herself as black or partly black on many occasions, including on an application for appointment to a Spokane city commission, where she checked boxes for white, black and Native American.

In the “Today” interview, Ms. Dolezal defended publicly identifying a black friend, who is not a relative, as her father. “We connected on a very intimate level as family,” she said. “Albert Wilkerson is my dad.”

Several years ago, she became the guardian of one of her adopted, black younger siblings, Izaiah, now 21. He sees her as his “real mom,” she said, “and for that to be something that is plausible, I certainly can’t be seen as white and be Izaiah’s mom.”

She also has a biological son, who is 13, with her former husband, who is black.
Source

I read this yesterday:
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: Let Rachel Dolezal Be as Black as She Wants to Be


Despite all this, you can’t deny that Dolezal has proven herself a fierce and unrelenting champion for African-Americans politically and culturally. Perhaps some of this sensitivity comes from her adoptive black siblings. Whatever the reason, she has been fighting the fight for several years and seemingly doing a first-rate job. Not only has she led her local chapter of the NAACP, she teaches classes related to African-American culture at Eastern Washington University and is chairwoman of a police oversight committee monitoring fairness in police activities. Bottom line: The black community is better off because of her efforts.


I hope she gets her job back - frankly. Sounds like she earned that position - unless people really believe that our ethnicity is as important as who we are and what we do
edit on 6/16/2015 by Spiramirabilis because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Teeky
a reply to: Vasa Croe

The story broke right before his birthday. And is still being paraded around today (his birthday). An ascended master need not be religious; but must be spiritual, live life to it's fullest, and live life without fear, and to fight the powers that be.


I don't think there are enough people in the world that care about Tupac for this to have mattered. Was there some huge celebration of him that I was missed because of this story?

He was lauded as a visionary in his music ability and lyrics....that is hardly something that will last the test of time. Plenty of great musical artists have come and gone. This is not some conspiracy to discredit Tupac after 20 years of being dead.

As far as being spiritually ascended.....I had no idea spiritual ascension was had by fighting and thugging....sure his music was good, but he was no spiritually righteous master...


Jim Morrison, JFk, Tupac, Bob Marley just to name a few; were people who weren't afraid to inform the masses of the deception that is our reality. Dozeal is just a puppet and neither of the aforementioned were puppets or least broke free of their puppet master during their lives. Jim Morrison was a druken master highly spiritual. So therefore Tupac is being over shadowed by this transracial agent, in order for the masses not to come together and celebrate and have fun on the day an asecended master was born.
edit on 16-6-2015 by Teeky because: word

edit on 16-6-2015 by Teeky because: wordn



posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 12:59 PM
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a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

The NAACP has said there are no requirements which I think is commendable. However, her brother is quoted as saying she told him not to 'out' her. The implication is, she is lying about her race and knows she is lying. She also applied for, as a black woman and received a job. The job was as a member of the Citizen Police Ombudsman Commission and she was the Chairman of it. If the make up of this commission was intended to be intentionally diverse, would she have received the position as a white woman? Maybe, maybe not. I want to research Ethnic Identity Disorder more before I comment on that possibility.


edit on 16-6-2015 by Khaleesi because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

There's always been so much controversy concerning people of color passing for white... I doubt most people would feel comfortable bringing any of that up, or even criticizing it in the same way as they freely criticize this

Her story/situation is so interesting - isn't it?
She clearly has some issues with her white parents. She was raised with her adopted black brothers. She married a black man...

She traced misconceptions about her background to local news media reports that first identified her as “transracial,” then as biracial and then as black. “I never corrected that,” she said — even as she insisted that there was nothing to correct.

In fact, her role has not been so passive — she has identified herself as black or partly black on many occasions, including on an application for appointment to a Spokane city commission, where she checked boxes for white, black and Native American.

In the “Today” interview, Ms. Dolezal defended publicly identifying a black friend, who is not a relative, as her father. “We connected on a very intimate level as family,” she said. “Albert Wilkerson is my dad.”

Several years ago, she became the guardian of one of her adopted, black younger siblings, Izaiah, now 21. He sees her as his “real mom,” she said, “and for that to be something that is plausible, I certainly can’t be seen as white and be Izaiah’s mom.”

She also has a biological son, who is 13, with her former husband, who is black.
Source

I read this yesterday:
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: Let Rachel Dolezal Be as Black as She Wants to Be


Despite all this, you can’t deny that Dolezal has proven herself a fierce and unrelenting champion for African-Americans politically and culturally. Perhaps some of this sensitivity comes from her adoptive black siblings. Whatever the reason, she has been fighting the fight for several years and seemingly doing a first-rate job. Not only has she led her local chapter of the NAACP, she teaches classes related to African-American culture at Eastern Washington University and is chairwoman of a police oversight committee monitoring fairness in police activities. Bottom line: The black community is better off because of her efforts.


I hope she gets her job back - frankly. Sounds like she earned that position - unless people really believe that our ethnicity is as important as who we are and what we do


She was hardly raised with them. She was already much older when they were adopted. And her adopted brother, Izaiah, whom she claims she has custody of and raised, has nothing to do with her.....last story I read he won't even speak to her.

Messed up family basically. She likely disassociated with her family and herself a long time ago and has been living a lie for many years.

Pathological liar in my book. One that I would not trust to run an organization in any manner.



posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: Teeky

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Teeky
a reply to: Vasa Croe

The story broke right before his birthday. And is still being paraded around today (his birthday). An ascended master need not be religious; but must be spiritual, live life to it's fullest, and live life without fear, and to fight the powers that be.


I don't think there are enough people in the world that care about Tupac for this to have mattered. Was there some huge celebration of him that I was missed because of this story?

He was lauded as a visionary in his music ability and lyrics....that is hardly something that will last the test of time. Plenty of great musical artists have come and gone. This is not some conspiracy to discredit Tupac after 20 years of being dead.

As far as being spiritually ascended.....I had no idea spiritual ascension was had by fighting and thugging....sure his music was good, but he was no spiritually righteous master...


Jim Morrison, JFk, Tupac, Bob Marley just to name a few; were people who weren't afraid to inform the masses of the deception that is our reality. Dozeal is just a puppet and neither of the aforementioned were puppets or least broke free of their puppet master during their lives. Jim Morrison was a druken master highly spiritual. So therefore Tupac is being over shadowed by this transracial agent, in order for the masses not to come together and celebrate and have fun on the day an asecended master was born.


I don't think any masses were going to come together and celebrate Tupac today regardless of the media story. Has there been some nationwide party we all missed in the past? Hell...I couldn't tell you the birthdays of any of the guys you named....much less have I partied on any of their birthdays because it was their birthday.



posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 01:12 PM
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Pathological liar in my book. One that I would not trust to run an organization in any manner.

If an African American can pass for white and just lets people believe they are white - perhaps because it will help them in a situation here or there to be considered white - is that the same thing? Or is that different?

There are Jews that changed their names when they arrived in America, or tried to make a name for themselves in show business. My mom had a Mexican friend that un-latinized her name a little bit...

I get why this is news, but I'm not sure I understand the anger

According to everyone who knew her - she was very good at what she did - liar or no

:-)

So many absolutely fascinating philosophical questions come out of this story

A lot of people are living a lie - I'd go so far as to say most of us are in one way or another



posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Teeky

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Teeky
a reply to: Vasa Croe

The story broke right before his birthday. And is still being paraded around today (his birthday). An ascended master need not be religious; but must be spiritual, live life to it's fullest, and live life without fear, and to fight the powers that be.


I don't think there are enough people in the world that care about Tupac for this to have mattered. Was there some huge celebration of him that I was missed because of this story?

He was lauded as a visionary in his music ability and lyrics....that is hardly something that will last the test of time. Plenty of great musical artists have come and gone. This is not some conspiracy to discredit Tupac after 20 years of being dead.

As far as being spiritually ascended.....I had no idea spiritual ascension was had by fighting and thugging....sure his music was good, but he was no spiritually righteous master...


Jim Morrison, JFk, Tupac, Bob Marley just to name a few; were people who weren't afraid to inform the masses of the deception that is our reality. Dozeal is just a puppet and neither of the aforementioned were puppets or least broke free of their puppet master during their lives. Jim Morrison was a druken master highly spiritual. So therefore Tupac is being over shadowed by this transracial agent, in order for the masses not to come together and celebrate and have fun on the day an asecended master was born.


I don't think any masses were going to come together and celebrate Tupac today regardless of the media story. Has there been some nationwide party we all missed in the past? Hell...I couldn't tell you the birthdays of any of the guys you named....much less have I partied on any of their birthdays because it was their birthday.



I know the masses aren't going to come together and rep for a freedom fighter, we are too divided to do so. And plus the media and tptb didn't say we could celebrate on Tupac's Birthday so therefore it won't happen. You can't have young hip hop fans 15-50 in the U.S. and around the world celebrating a person who was a straight up rider. But here we are talking about a liar, agent, agenda driven distraction.
edit on 16-6-2015 by Teeky because: words



posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 01:27 PM
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originally posted by: Teeky

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Teeky

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Teeky
a reply to: Vasa Croe

The story broke right before his birthday. And is still being paraded around today (his birthday). An ascended master need not be religious; but must be spiritual, live life to it's fullest, and live life without fear, and to fight the powers that be.


I don't think there are enough people in the world that care about Tupac for this to have mattered. Was there some huge celebration of him that I was missed because of this story?

He was lauded as a visionary in his music ability and lyrics....that is hardly something that will last the test of time. Plenty of great musical artists have come and gone. This is not some conspiracy to discredit Tupac after 20 years of being dead.

As far as being spiritually ascended.....I had no idea spiritual ascension was had by fighting and thugging....sure his music was good, but he was no spiritually righteous master...


Jim Morrison, JFk, Tupac, Bob Marley just to name a few; were people who weren't afraid to inform the masses of the deception that is our reality. Dozeal is just a puppet and neither of the aforementioned were puppets or least broke free of their puppet master during their lives. Jim Morrison was a druken master highly spiritual. So therefore Tupac is being over shadowed by this transracial agent, in order for the masses not to come together and celebrate and have fun on the day an asecended master was born.


I don't think any masses were going to come together and celebrate Tupac today regardless of the media story. Has there been some nationwide party we all missed in the past? Hell...I couldn't tell you the birthdays of any of the guys you named....much less have I partied on any of their birthdays because it was their birthday.



I know the masses aren't going to come together and rep for a freedom fighter, we are too divided to do so. And plus the media and tptb didn't say we could celebrate on Tupac's Birthday so therefore it won't happen. You can't have young hip hop fans 15-50 in the U.S. and around the world celebrating a person who was a straight up rider. But here we are talking about a liar, agent, agenda driven distraction.


So....it's really just a conspiracy so people around the world can't have a big party?

Why are you here discussing this? Shouldn't you be out partying and rallying the other revelers? Or are you just like the rest of us and get caught up in agent provocateur actions?

I know I'm getting paid to shill to cover up Tupac's big day!



posted on Jun, 16 2015 @ 01:32 PM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: Vasa Croe



Pathological liar in my book. One that I would not trust to run an organization in any manner.

If an African American can pass for white and just lets people believe they are white - perhaps because it will help them in a situation here or there to be considered white - is that the same thing? Or is that different?

There are Jews that changed their names when they arrived in America, or tried to make a name for themselves in show business. My mom had a Mexican friend that un-latinized her name a little bit...

I get why this is news, but I'm not sure I understand the anger

According to everyone who knew her - she was very good at what she did - liar or no

:-)

So many absolutely fascinating philosophical questions come out of this story

A lot of people are living a lie - I'd go so far as to say most of us are in one way or another


Sure it's the same thing. She took it a step further and took pictures with a black man and claimed it was her dad. She claims she grew up in a teepee and killed animals with a bow and arrow for food. She told her brother not to "out" her as a white woman. She copied artworks and called them her own. There is a LONG list of discrepancies about this woman....like I said....I would not be surprised if she is a pathological liar.

Her entire demeanor in all the interviews suggests it. She seems so nonchalant about the whole thing. Has a sociopathic feel to it. I would not be surprised if she has "re-invented" herself numerous times throughout her life in order to gain some benefit.



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