Sorry for not responding to the thoughts and incites you guys have provided in this thread. (I was at the in-laws for x-mas) They are all very interesting and well thoought out.

After Reading all the posts, I believe that precognition is the word I was looking for to describe the events that have been occurring in my life. The
things that I see I have no real way of knowing about previous to them taking place. Unless, subconsciously, my mind is coming to the conclusion based off of what it has learned through my history and what the logical conclusion would be based off of current events happening in my life.

Because are minds are advancing at an even pace, or faster then our bodies, it is possible for the mind to do all the calculations and come up with a possible solution or scenario to an outcome before it actually happens. What puzzles me, is that it could give me a clear picture or mental movie of something as general as my boss coming into work and telling me that I am being relocated.
The accuracy of the mental picture was so great, that it makes me doubt, to a degree, that my mind alone would be capable of projecting that. Which would lead me back to some sort of sixth sense working hand in hand with the mind in order to determine an outcome.

But maybe it is not a sixth sense, more of a evolved survival instinct. Which would have to have evolved to meet the modern worlds environment. Maybe the combination of the two?

B56

Walking in the door to your house, you see a lamp turned over, and you assume robbery. Extrapolation, no?

No, it's speculation.

A conclusion, opinion, or theory reached by conjecture.
Reasoning based on inconclusive evidence; conjecture or supposition.

Walking in the door to your house, you see a lamp turned over, and you see your wife come out of the next room and proceede to right the lamp, before the event takes place. Pre-cognitive or extrapolation? Could be either right? The lines are too blurred IMO to even be bothered arguing about.

In a precongition there is no thinking involved. You receive the information beyond the physical channels. Example, you might see the murder of a stranger at a location and this information can then be used to locate the murderer. There are actually psychics who have helped the police in cases like this.

If the brain can extrapolate and solve equations with one or two missing variables, it's capable of working with larger problems, it just takes more time, and the results are presented with a degree of uncertainty hardwired.

There are no missing variables. The relationships are already pre-defined by our conditioning. We know that putting our hand in the fire will cause pain. So we form a relationship between touch, fire and pain.

However, in the case of precognition there are infinite missing variables. If you try to predict the time and location of an earthquake by analysing earthquake trends, you will invariaby fail, because you are missing too many variables and have no knowledge of the relationships of plate tectonics. However, even if you did have access to seismic data, you still would not be unable able to predict earthquakes with any viable accuracy.

Now, if someone who has not analysed either the trends or the seismic data, predicting the time and location of the earthquake would be precognition. This is not an ability of the brain; this is an ability of the subspace mind - or the soul.

[edit on 25-12-2004 by Indigo_Child]

Originally posted by blend56
What puzzles me, is that it could give me a clear picture or mental movie of something as general as my boss coming into work and telling me that I am being relocated.
The accuracy of the mental picture was so great, that it makes me doubt, to a degree, that my mind alone would be capable of projecting that. Which would lead me back to some sort of sixth sense working hand in hand with the mind in order to determine an outcome.

But maybe it is not a sixth sense, more of a evolved survival instinct. Which would have to have evolved to meet the modern worlds environment. Maybe the combination of the two?

B56

This mental movie is most likely a symbolic way of your thinking. When it actually happens in reality, it pops up in your mind: did it already happen to me before?! This still doesn't mean that you can predict the future.

Think about it: if you were capable of such interesting thing, you could have predicted other unique happenings, like 911, or else. Not just private things about your boss. That's quite clear.

I would have to disagree on that one. I know what symbolism is. I know what deja vu is. I know what precognition is. This is not a symbol that is creeping up in my mind. When I say that the images I saw in my head were exactly what happened this week, I mean that I saw him come in, take a quick tour around the store, saw what aisle he went down, etc..etc..

I can try to explain till I'm blue in the face, and unless you experience it, you won't be able to understand. Believe me, when this stuff happens to me, I am the first one to try and find logical explanations. And I posted this because it was the most logical explanation.

But it still doesn't validate the experiences I have been having. Just a portion of them.

I don't believe that precognition would automatically lead to me seeing big events that were going to occur. Actually, I find it more belivable that I would only see things that mattered in my immediate future. As this would make sense in a survival instinct sort of way. Your fight or flight system would only care about immediate events. Ones that pose an immediate danger to you. At least thats what I believe.

Anyhow, thanks for your imput. I still have alot of research to do, but you all have shown me at least that I'm on the right path. And offered some good leads to follow.

Thanks again,
B56

Well, I must post the following for this thread: Few days before 911 I "saw" in my mind a commercial jetliner crashing into a few storey building, and exploding inside. Also I took a note that it was supposed to be deliberate suicide bombing. It was daytime on that Thursday when Osama bin Laden got the exact date from the terrorists.

After all, I still don't consider that I was able to predict the future, perhaps because all this is far beyond my imagination. On the other hand, I might have really predicted this big event... I'll never know that.

My point is simple: there is no specific explanation to this phenomena, and even as a person tries to talk about it, it's no way to describe it normally.

your story about 9/11 is a perfect example of what I'm saying. You foresaw an event that was important to you, a few days prior to it happening. This event had a huge impact on a lot of people. And may also have had a huge impact on you. As I don't know any personal details (nor am I asking for them) I cannot say for sure. But, my point being that maybe a combination of your survival instinct and your mind calculating the odds, gave you the ability to see what was about to occur. Because it would be important to you or effect your life in a severe manner.

I believe that this subject, as many others on the board, needs to be talked about in order to come to a better understanding about what it is. That is what this board is about. So, please, feel free to debate/talk/question or clarify anything that I post or have posted. Because this will only lead to answers and solutions. And thats what I'm looking for.

As I have thanked you previously, I will thank you again. Your input is valuable. And is well appreciated.

B56

Well I think Precogs are Real. I should Know......

There are many problems thought with Precogs.

1. How far in advance do you see the warnings. If you see something 2 years before it happens then the odds of you remembering it are slim.

2. the jedi Reflexes effect. Knowing whats going to happen right before it does.

3. self precogs or world precogs....


for example I play alot of games and my friends are always like man your good.... How did you know that was there..... stuff like that....

ex.1 playing ultima assensen... the dungion with the first tower out side the main town across the bridge by the field with the rocks that curshed the guy and wagon. I was playing this level with my friend tanner watching. I jumped over a pit and walked on finnished everthing in that room then walked back to the pit then I said you know I bet if I jump down there. " No visible way out or markings" that there will be a fake wall and inside the room it opens 2 there will be a painting and when you click on the painting it will change or have somthing behind it. So jumped down fake wall was there painting of a knight was on the wall. clicked on painting changed into a evil demon looking thing. he was speechless....

ex.2 playing EQ 2 in antonica fighting in the NE corner of the map where the zombies/ghosts are. I said you know I bet if we go over to that cliff and jump off there will be a ledge then there will be a cave and inside the cave will be a strange statue. lets just say I was right. The sad thing was that I saw this when I was playing EQ 1 in 2000. did not understand it at the time because there is no such place in EQ 1. EQ 2 in antonica took place 5 days ago.

ex.3 you know the hole copy cat game. some one says stop copying me and the repeat it. Well have take that to a hole new level. If words are spoken clearly and is not faster then I can talk in normal conversation. "Not micro machine guy...." I can word for word say what a person going to say right as they are saying it or right before they do. Along with the fact that just today at work guy is working with a grinding weel he is out of my line of sight he is grinding away. I have fingers in my ears waiting for him to stop. He has been cutting shapes in sheet metal. He grinds stops for a sec or 2 then grinds agine. I pulled my figers out of my ears the same second he stoped. He did not restart the grinder. I dont know how I could tell that he was done at all. But I did guess right.

Ex. 4 Remote veiwing - been doing some remote veiwing test here is one of the target pics. Total time I looked at the blank 15 seconds.



Other things also happen to me all the time. I seem to know when some one is hurt if they will live or not. Been right 4 times out of 4 so far. With out talking to the doc, or knowing anything about there condition.

My antie broke off her foot. Told my father she will not make it thoght this. His response she will be fine. 6 weeks later she had died from malpractice from sufication by a orderly at the hostpital.

Grandfather had tripple bypass. His blood pressure when aratic along with eregular heart beats. Doc called us in and said the odds of making it are slim to none he is having reactions with the the drugs we are giving him. Everyone was saying he was going to die. Cool as can be I said na He will be fine. He made after 48 hours of fighting with no side effects.

My other grandfather got call from hostpital that he was put in for hard time breathing and abdomin pains low blood pressure. He had bronkal namonia full blown. He was 96 at the time. Docs said the odds he will make it are very slim. I said he will be fine He was..

Same grandfater as above got call he was in the hospital agine as soon as a picked up the phone I know he was going to die. Headed down there he died 3 min after I arrived.

There are many other things that have happend to me that I just can't explain. But I guess thats another story.

As a side note everyone in my family agree there is somthing up with what I can do that most people can't.

My IQ was tested in third grade. 168 test stops at 168.
Tested last year Europeine Staderized IQ test. Best posible score 173 my score 170 that test kind of sucked to much reading and timed.

I'm sure it can all be explained away. But To each there own I always say.

[edit on 27-12-2004 by shadarlocoth]

I also believe in precognition, as I stated previously, I have had my own experiences with it. But I do belive that as with most stuff in life, you can find a logical answer to it.

I didn't know that there were classifications for precognition. Thank you for telling me that.

I'm also sorry to hear about your ability to sense if people are going to die or not after they have been injured. That is one thing I would not want to be able to do.

Mine are all general, random epiisodes. I never know when they are going to happen, and what they are going to be about.

Does anyone else have specific capabilities as these?

Originally posted by WyrdeOne

would amount to the largest data gathering excercise in the history of human endeavor. .

Wow.. last night i saw that exact sentence in my head. and then i come onto this website, let alone this topic as my first choice, after not being on for weeks.... Weeeiirrdddd. i had such a good theory last night but it was so complicated i cant remember it =(

I really believe that precognition is natural, normal, that it is another sence that we all have, but that some choose to ignor.

When you see something with your eyes, you have your eyeballs at one end and the thing you are seeing at the other end. There isn't anything 'tangable' inbetween the two. When you hear something - no one can literaly see the sound waves that we hear. The sixth sense, as some call it, or the rest of the senses, as I like to think of them as, it is only because EVERYONE isn't privy to what they are all capable of that it is poo-pooed away as fake ect.

(oops, looks like I went off in left field and off topic - sorry)

As far as evolution - it's effects are to numb the senses. What you don't use, you loose. We don't need most of the senses and abilities we use to need now that we have phones and postmasters ect. People lost contact with themselves as they connected with the world around them via faulse media and relied on science instead of self intuition.

Precognition is a natural part of human thought. It is a brain function. Like any part of the body it is a collection of integrated nerve cells. These cells act as a communication network throughout the body.

A hand can react to fire before physical contact because the brain's programmed reaction causes the hand to reach away in automated motion, depending on the physical brain's maximized potential.

Precognition is nothing more than a practiced cooperation between the living being's thought process and the capability of the occupied genetic structure.

Therefore, depending upon the training received by the individual, any number of precognitive thought patterns might arise in a laboratory styled scientific experiment.