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Turkey sends refugees back into the hands of strange men with guns.

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posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 03:59 PM
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originally posted by: ufoorbhunter


Yes Turkey is our ally and part of NATO.

That's right and if it wasn't for Turks securing and defending the southern flank of NATO , official language of Eurozone would have been Russian long ago . Turks agreed to be nuked in case of war with Soviets . That was done to DEFEND your life . Turks DEFENDED your life with their own lives .

Such a nice place we send them advanced military technology.

Really , have you any idea what the NATO doctrine says ?


A state that has murdered most of its Armenian population for being Christian, murdered and expelled all its Greeks as they are Christians.

Bollocks , bollocks and more bollocks . Turks have lost about 5 million lives of their own , civilians , children , elderly .
In todays Turkey , there are approx. 150.000 Armenians who are there illegaly to seek for jobs . NO one says a thing to them and Turks & Armenians were best buddies for about 900 years too . Your opinion is biased one sided and full of ignorance .



Murdered most of its Syriac population and they were Christian. Now almost pure Muslim after expelling or murdering its Christian minorities, hey they are our ally


Testicles , testicles and more testicles . See the answer above and pls , this being the ATS , do a research into what the Turks says about all these allegations . There are always 2 sides toa coin .


Assad in Syria looks after his Christian minority and defends it wherever possible.

Assad , like his father was . is a genocidal maniac who has lined up with Christian minority in SYria to oppress the muslim minority . Assad and the Christian minority doesn't even add up to 15 % of Syrian population yet they controlled everything . Hell , they have even strip Kurds of Syria of any citizenship rights . Same Assad who has regarded Kurds as animals . Same Assad whose father has killed 40000 Syrians in one night only 3 decades ago .
Please , do stop this nonsense .

He goes out his way to be seen with Christian leaders who are making a last stand for Christians in the Middle east. Our government wants him dead replaced by an Islamic state


Gosh , NATO wants him dead because he is an obstacle to Western Democracy & Capitalism . He won't relinguish the control of Syrian Central Bank to Rothschilds family . At least get this right , right ?




posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 04:02 PM
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oh btw , the Turkish Border is now open and refugees are arriving in greater numbers .

Turks have over 2 million Syrians as refugees as of today and it's expected that once Assad forces make a final move the numbers will be 5 - 8 million in total.

Perhaps Turks can send some of these Syrians to other NATO countries .



posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: PredatorCrackling
a reply to: Soloprotocol

Just by being member of NATO

Turkey is guilty of aiding and abetting ISIS. This is a fact and cats in Washington and Tell Aviv are in charge.


they are a member of NATO because of what they can get, not what they can give.



posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 04:10 PM
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originally posted by: 23432
oh btw , the Turkish Border is now open and refugees are arriving in greater numbers .

Turks have over 2 million Syrians as refugees as of today and it's expected that once Assad forces make a final move the numbers will be 5 - 8 million in total.

Perhaps Turks can send some of these Syrians to other NATO countries .



wow, ok....I didn't know they had that many already....got any independent verification on those numbers?



posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 04:36 PM
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originally posted by: 23432
oh btw , the Turkish Border is now open and refugees are arriving in greater numbers .

Turks have over 2 million Syrians as refugees as of today and it's expected that once Assad forces make a final move the numbers will be 5 - 8 million in total.

Perhaps Turks can send some of these Syrians to other NATO countries .



Well please treat the Christian arrivals well and don't do to them what you did with your Armenian, Syriac and Greek people. Prays to God



posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 05:28 PM
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Need to mention a couple of facts.....Middle eastern, Mediterranean and Turkish are all ethnicities of Caucasian race.

And even though this will shock so many Americans, other countries cannot fire on other land's territory because that would be a declaration of war ya know, that is why Turkish army can't do nothing but watch and stand by.


edit on 14-6-2015 by Exitt because: ....



posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 08:28 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: PredatorCrackling
a reply to: Soloprotocol

Just by being member of NATO

Turkey is guilty of aiding and abetting ISIS. This is a fact and cats in Washington and Tell Aviv are in charge.


they are a member of NATO because of what they can get, not what they can give.



Firstly , Nato is rather made up of ALL of Turks historical enemies .

It was either NATO or Warsaw Pact and Turks have choosen USA over Russia , almost 50 years ago .
The reason for this choice is clear , Turks never had a serious war with USA in their history . USA was a late comer to the scene , so to speak.
Turks have had wars against many other NATO nations in the past millenia . Old enemies are just that , old enemies .
For the reasons above Turks have sided with USA / NATO .

Today's NATO - the European side - is full of old enemies of Turks .

Turkey is NOT guilty of aiding & abetting ISIS . On the contrary Turks have warned USA to NOT leave those weapons in the hands of locals that it would be a disaster to do so for EVERYONE involved .

But then again Turks also warned USA to not invade Iraq but topple Saddam with some other means .

To ISIS , the majority of Turks are infidels and needs to smitten to death by beheading .

To some Turks , it is true that they have nice view of ISIS but these Turks are less then 1 % of 80 million people.

Bottom line Turks don't want a Sharia practising nation to their south - east - the longest borders of Turkey with Iran - Iraq - Syria .
Who bloody needs another Pakistan & Afghanistan border in the ME ?

Turk don't need it for sure so it is not in their interest to support ISIS .

Turks support Free Syrian Army and has offered a plan to USA to deal with the situation ; namely , a joint operation to ged rid off Assad first and ISIS second .

USA refused and protected Assad .

What does the Turks give to NATO nowadays ?



Turkey’s Relations with NATO Ever since our NATO membership in 1952, the North Atlantic Alliance has played a central role in Turkey’s security and contributed to its integration with the Euro-Atlantic community.

Turkey, in return, has successfully assumed its responsibilities in defending the common values of the Alliance. Turkey attaches the utmost importance to NATO’s role in maintaining security and stability in the Euro-Atlantic area and in providing a forum for political-military consultations on topics of interest to its members.

Indivisibility of Alliance security, solidarity among Allies and a fair risk and burden sharing as well as the consensus rule, are NATO’s guiding principles and should remain as such. Adherence to these principles as well as NATO’s ability to adapt to the changing security environment, have made NATO the most successful military alliance in history.

The success of current and future missions and operations will play a crucial role in shaping NATO’s future. Turkey will continue to provide appropriate support to these operations. Turkey also supports NATO’s transformation efforts, which are crucial for NATO’s success. It is therefore making substantial contributions to the NATO Response Force. A Force Command at high readiness level is established in Istanbul.

Within the new NATO command structure, the air command in Izmir will be replaced by a land command. The “Partnership for Peace Training Center” was created in 1998 within the Turkish General Staff in an effort to contribute to the training and interoperability efforts of NATO’s partner nations.

The Center provides strategic and tactical level training to military and civilian personnel from partner countries. Turkey welcomes the strategic partnership between NATO and the EU in accordance with the agreed framework between the two organizations. This partnership should be based on mutual support, complementarity and transparency and will contribute to addressing more efficiently existing risks and threats.

Turkey’s approach to NATO-EU cooperation is a natural result of its NATO membership and EU membership perspective. Turkey also strongly supports NATO’s partnerships. Turkey also believes that a constructive relationship based on mutual understanding, transparency and cooperation between NATO and Russia is important for Euro-Atlantic peace and stability and that the NATO-Russia Council provides the necessary forum for such a relationship.

Turkey believes that the integration of all Western Balkan countries in Euro-Atlantic structures is the key to lasting peace and stability in the region. Turkey therefore supports the membership of interested countries, in particular Macedonia and Bosnia and Herzegovina in NATO, the irreversible strengthening of security in Kosovo and the normalization of relations between Serbia and Kosovo.

With the understanding that European security cannot be dissociated from Mediterranean security, Turkey shares the belief that the Mediterranean Dialogue should be strengthened in areas where NATO can bring an added value. Turkey also supports further enhancing the relations with Gulf countries through the Istanbul Cooperation Initiative.



The above is what Turks had to say .



posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 08:32 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

wow, ok....I didn't know they had that many already....got any independent verification on those numbers?



data.unhcr.org...

Official number is 1.8 million but this is not been updated to include the latest arrivals .



posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 08:37 PM
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originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

Well please treat the Christian arrivals well and don't do to them what you did with your Armenian, Syriac and Greek people. Prays to God


Majority of people in Turkey care not what religion a person is as long as that person is decent , good , hardworking individual.

Christians and Turks go waaaay back , to the crusades and beyond.

Armenian gangs have killed bucket loads of Turks in Turkey prior to being sentenced to that infamous relocation policy .

Which you would call it a Genocide but Turks wouldn't agree . www.tallarmeniantale.com... will inform you of the " other side " of the story .
When you read it , try to form and objective point of view , perhaps ?

Deny ignorance per ATS even ?

As for Greeks & other Christians , there was a voluntary exchange of population and killing on both sides . In Crete , it is estimated that the island 38 % population of Turks were totally exterminated . NO Turks live in Crete ever since. Same pattern applies to Balkans , Caucasus and North Africa to an extend.

Turks are not evil , they just give as good as it gets , naturally , some just don't like it when shoe is on the other foot .

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posted on Jun, 14 2015 @ 08:41 PM
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originally posted by: Exitt
Need to mention a couple of facts.....Middle eastern, Mediterranean and Turkish are all ethnicities of Caucasian race.

And even though this will shock so many Americans, other countries cannot fire on other land's territory because that would be a declaration of war ya know, that is why Turkish army can't do nothing but watch and stand by.



Exactly .

Some people desire that the Turks to go to war against Syria - who is backed by Russia & Iran .

But the very same people are sitting at the NATO and EU meetings and not treating the Turk as equals and friends .

Turks says f... that #e , naturally .

Let's play the Turkish Gambit , the Turks say , typically .



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