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posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 01:48 AM
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First off, my apologies if this is the wrong forum for this topic

I wanted to inquire about genuine responses, directed to people of Faith. "Faith" can be defined as any religious denomination, creed, or spirituality.

These questions may be viewed as fictions, but please indulge me, if just for a moment. I, personally cast no judgment to your answers of such invasions, and hope no other forum goer does so in turn. If possible, just post on the questions at large.

Thanks in advance.

●Let us pretend a disclosure of non-terrestrial people have lived among humanity, since the inception of Man. These people are, at face value, indistinguishable from yourself. These people may be your friends, neighbors, coworkers, and quite possibly, far removed cousin. By all moral standards, they are good people who love, show kindness, and are wholeheartedly generous persons, without a shadow of doubt. And no matter what physiological differences may be witnessed, these people are humble, and void of pride or arrogance. Pretend that these prepositions are absolute. In light of this revelation:

○How would you feel about their existence and cohabitation with you, on this plane?

○How would you address and tutor your inexperienced young, on this matter?

○If your kin had contrary opinions, to your beliefs, in light of given revelation, would you prevent them from causing unprovoked harm to others, or themselves if this situation arose?

○If it was revealed that these beings shared the same genus as the prophets of old (Christ, Muhammad, Abraham, Buddha, etc.), how would that modify your beliefs?

Thanks for your time.

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posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 03:03 AM
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i don't really understand what you are asking.


I suppose if they possess all those wonderful character traits you mention they cannot possibly be from our planet!

would knowing about them mean I'm supposed to lose all faith in God?

I don't think they would have stuck around this long and still be so wonderful.


Sorry if its not a good answer.



posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 03:08 AM
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a reply to: trifecta

Given the type of people you described, I would have no problems with any of it nor would it shake my faith.



posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 03:16 AM
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Just to skip to the end for a moment; you couldn't prove (neither could they), that they are part of the genus of any of those men.

That being said, having faith or not, if someone is good-natured, with no ill will for his fellow man, than why would we condemn them? Why would anyone condemn them? Not to mention if some of them are our cousins then we would all share blood with them, making us half-breeds. To be honest, I can't imagine a disclosure ever happening if they were really that similar to us; it would be pointless and provoke unwarranted bigotry from the simple minded masses.

I feel like the whole premise of your inquire was not particularly thought out very well...



posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 03:33 AM
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a reply to: trifecta

ahaha, you sneakie!



posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 03:44 AM
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a reply to: trifecta

Im gonna try to make sense, once it made a difference, symbolic gestures, a different culture and a different lifestyle. The meaning was survival which differs from the mating habits as a universal point, like dancing, nesting or stature/status. On the same level plain, the more evolved specie would do poor since natural instincts are more or less controlled versus the meaning of survival. The less effort on survival the less effort on building societies, the grandness of the old becomes irrelevant when humanoids builds symbols of their grandure like the pyramids, or any symbolic meaning or statue. When the core of evolution is gone and its meaning is gone, humans acts as parasites.
The meaning of a symbol need a unique core, it doesnt today.



posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 04:03 AM
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a reply to: trifecta

I want to answer your questions but I'm a bit confused by some things. So please clear this up first.

1. Are you having us pretend that there is a separate, alien bloodline of humanoids living among us?

2. And that bloodline descended from alien/non-hominid humanoids who have been around since the 1st humans/hominids?

3. And those alien/non-hominid humanoids were either created at the same time as the first hominids or existed before the first hominids were created?

4. And also, the people we refer to as "prophets" are actually members of this alien/non-hominid humanoid bloodline?

5. And of course, that our family & friends can be the descendants of those bloodlines but somehow we are not?

I feel like I've heard this before...

6. Then you're asking that if all of what I mentioned above is true (assuming I understood you correctly), how would we feel about sharing Earth with them (assuming we weren't of the bloodline too, of course)? And how would we teach our family & friends about them (assuming they weren't of the bloodline too)? And would we prevent people who don't accept this as truth from hurting others over this new information? And how would we change our beliefs once we found out our "prophets" were actually members of this bloodline of alien/non-hominid humanoids?

I'm not trying to be rude but can you be more direct? What are you actually getting at? Otherwise this is too convoluted for most people to respond to, even if we want to respond. Also, it feels like you're trying to set us up for some big "gotcha" moment. So why not play fair & just say what you want to say?



posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 04:23 AM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

In my point of view, humans are divied into two subspecies, one is more evolved than the other. Am i part of the more evolved bloodline, no. But i am a part of their culture which at some times depending on the nation is good and sometimes really #ed up, but in a way, the more evolved subspecie can build societies the lesser lives by nature. Its a slave and master scenario.



posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 04:31 AM
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a reply to: trifecta

I cannot answer for how my outlook would change since I am already assuming that humanity is filled with soul from many different levels and used as the in between where the lower-mid and higher spiritual leveled ones can meet.

Every soul have the same potential in the end but we are not on the same starting point when we are put on earth. But that do not mean a lower leveled one can surpass an mid leveled one or a higher leveled one if it does everything right.
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If all where on the same level of understanding would not all souls already know the bliss and have proof "not faith" of something more than the Illusion that we are told we live in.

The light/chi/kundalini is very real and something that affect the quantum physical.



posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 04:43 AM
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originally posted by: Temudjin
a reply to: enlightenedservant

In my point of view, humans are divied into two subspecies, one is more evolved than the other. Am i part of the more evolved bloodline, no. But i am a part of their culture which at some times depending on the nation is good and sometimes really #ed up, but in a way, the more evolved subspecie can build societies the lesser lives by nature. Its a slave and master scenario.


Who is slave to who? The lower leveled spiritual ones are normally the people who go for being masters in power pyramids, trying to bind others to their will, ending in their own disaster as the karma debt accumulate on their soul binding themselves to suffering caused by their insane ignorance. One live in material bliss behaving like a half demon towards everyone else and then end up as a slave to the debt of your action for 1000/million/billion years having to work to repair the damaged you caused.

In the end the enslaver will be enslaved when the enslaver encounter the mirror of behavior (karma retribution).

Better to go the higher road. Symbiosis with those you can be symbiotic with for the benefit of all those involved.
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posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 04:51 AM
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a reply to: LittleByLittle

Well everything has its cycle, this one started last year. Times are changing, its no good if u name them since humans have a tendency to become violent towards things that are different. Some of them try to protect the time they had by forcing extremism. Its two counter balances which actually just have a already dictated winner, but we need stories in the future so humans believes in the freedom, democracy thing.



posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 07:16 AM
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originally posted by: trifecta
○How would you feel about their existence and cohabitation with you, on this plane?


To me, from a faith point of view, it changes nothing. I am of the belief that this universe is teeming with intelligent life all created by God through his Sons.


○How would you address and tutor your inexperienced young, on this matter?


I personally always taught my children that we are not alone in the universe. Their religious beliefs are not hinged to an opinion that we are God's only creation.


○If your kin had contrary opinions, to your beliefs, in light of given revelation, would you prevent them from causing unprovoked harm to others, or themselves if this situation arose?


I would certainly try to talk to them and find out why they felt it necessary to resort to harming others or themselves.


○If it was revealed that these beings shared the same genus as the prophets of old (Christ, Muhammad, Abraham, Buddha, etc.), how would that modify your beliefs?


It would not change my beliefs. God if the First Source and Center of all things and beings.



posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 07:46 AM
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a reply to: trifecta

Some good questions.


If your kin had contrary opinions, to your beliefs, in light of given revelation, would you prevent them from causing unprovoked harm to others, or themselves if this situation arose?

What kind of harm?


How would you address and tutor your inexperienced young, on this matter?

Not before they are asking those questions directly. Big mistake indoctrinating children with organized religion too early. They don't have the defense against it at too young an age.

By the time they begin to ask questions the answers are already programmed into them by others or institutions.

Its one thing to learn to read and write, quite another to seek spiritual fulfillment.



posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 08:37 AM
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a reply to: intrptr

Valid points, we take a Two examples one is a lost Indian tribe in the Malaysian rainforest they never met any modern civilization forest provide directly to them, no indoctrination, are they happy, fulfilled most definitely. They know nothing else, their indoctrination is a passage of moral and ethics just like our modernized world provides us with the moral and ethics religion provides us. They lived this way at the same we lived ours for thousands of years, adjusted, adopted. ( true case )

. I am against nepotism, they way this succeeded is that they were symbols of humanity to follow but the very foundation of this is gone . / ,now? they are just as human as you and I are. They build symbols of their greatness just cause of the fear of death and dying. When a society loses its very form and intention, its humanity and dignity , They become the masters and everyone else the oppressed.

Second example
If you take a human who sees what someone else has he wants it, because he is a human, it's instincts, they way it works in the third world. It's not about survival it's about wanting, it's not spiritual, evolved or anything like it. It's pure primate instinct.


It doesn't matter what we choose now, cause our symbols of evolving doesn't fulfill its purpose, we need new ones and it will thrive from chaos. The ones who survives the long winter are the ones who would had made it as nature intended it to.

Balance in nature is the biggest threat humans will face and it's a scary one



posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 08:51 AM
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originally posted by: trifecta
First off, my apologies if this is the wrong forum for this topic

I wanted to inquire about genuine responses, directed to people of Faith. "Faith" can be defined as any religious denomination, creed, or spirituality.

These questions may be viewed as fictions, but please indulge me, if just for a moment. I, personally cast no judgment to your answers of such invasions, and hope no other forum goer does so in turn. If possible, just post on the questions at large.

Thanks in advance.

●Let us pretend a disclosure of non-terrestrial people have lived among humanity, since the inception of Man. These people are, at face value, indistinguishable from yourself. These people may be your friends, neighbors, coworkers, and quite possibly, far removed cousin. By all moral standards, they are good people who love, show kindness, and are wholeheartedly generous persons, without a shadow of doubt. And no matter what physiological differences may be witnessed, these people are humble, and void of pride or arrogance. Pretend that these prepositions are absolute. In light of this revelation:

○How would you feel about their existence and cohabitation with you, on this plane?

○How would you address and tutor your inexperienced young, on this matter?

○If your kin had contrary opinions, to your beliefs, in light of given revelation, would you prevent them from causing unprovoked harm to others, or themselves if this situation arose?

○If it was revealed that these beings shared the same genus as the prophets of old (Christ, Muhammad, Abraham, Buddha, etc.), how would that modify your beliefs?

Thanks for your time.


Have you seen the multiplicity of posts about this same question?

You are new (I assume), so let's keep assuming you are new and don't realize how many times we've been asked and answered....

NO, it doesn't change a thing.



posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 09:46 AM
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a reply to: trifecta

You could change the word "alien" to immigrants, Islamists, Jews, or anything else illicit response to same questions.

Is this your true intent or are you really that focused on aliens?:



posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: trifecta

Well kids it's like this ...Notice the many flowers and the patterns and colors they have .Do you have a favorite kind ? Most people do and some share your love and admiration for the same kinds . Notice the birds and the many different sounds they make . Do you have a favorite ? Much like friends that look , walk,talk and think about things differently, we should respect that they like us are not going to be the same . Like birds of a feather will flock together so to will like minded boys and girls . We were made to be different so we wouldn't all want to live in New York or in the woods .But be careful and remain true to yourself .It's the only way you will know who you really are and where you should be or would like to be . Hope is your first cause .Reality is your path .Love is your map



posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: Temudjin


If you take a human who sees what someone else has he wants it, because he is a human, it's instincts, they way it works in the third world. It's not about survival it's about wanting, it's not spiritual, evolved or anything like it. It's pure primate instinct.

For some. But those are in every culture no matter how "advanced". I think the more advanced we become the more unmindful of others, the more self centered.

Just because we can do marvelous things doesn't mean we are better than others. Its how we behave toward others that matters, not how shiny our stuff is.

Ever see, "The Gods Must Be Crazy"?



posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 11:42 AM
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a reply to: intrptr

Great show that was and is. Reminds me of the commandment to not covet . Reaching into the deepest of our souls it cannot be found but once understood it becomes a light on our path .



posted on Jun, 13 2015 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: intrptr

That movie will dictate on how the future generations will see us



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