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The left is sucking up world resources

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posted on Dec, 25 2004 @ 07:33 AM
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You invite ridicule on yourself, Sleeper.

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posted on Dec, 25 2004 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by Teh_Gerbil
So your are saying that practically enslaving people in sweatshops abroad to avoid human rights issues at home is good? You'd probably like to see the "Leftist" Human rights in America removed, wouldn't you, so you could do this at home?

Cleaing up "Leftist" stuff abroad by overthrowing right-wing Saddam eh? And the Taliban who were also Right wing? Gimme a break, you must be stupid or ignorant. Or both.

Guys, we are wasting our time here im afraid. :sigh:


You lefties blame everything you do to your own people (sweatshops) on America----what happens in your country is your doing-----or should America come over there and take it over?

That would be the only way of cleaning up your mess.

BTW if you lefties were schooled you would know the difference between left and right.

Saddam owned Iraq, as Hitler owned Germany, which is leftwing ideology, duh.



posted on Dec, 25 2004 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by OXmanK
Sorry, sleeper...the only thing socialist about Hitler was the disguise he ran under...try again...

And your argument is truly absurd. That policy that helps "feed those other people" are typically left wing ideas. You know, that whole giving people something for nothing...


I didn't write the history books----they say Hitler was a Socialist.

But what is Socialism----the state owns everything-----are you saying that Hitler didn't own or control everything in Germany?



posted on Dec, 25 2004 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by General Zapata

Originally posted by sleeper
Hitler confiscated all the means of productions----Socialism.


GAH! will the incorrect labelling never end? *tears out hair*

under socialism, true socialism, the PEOPLE own the means of production EQUALLY, not the government. The government forcibly takes it from the previous owners (the capitalists) and gives each person their equal portion. The government is only required in the early stages of the revolution to make sure that the transition is smooth. After that, ideally, it will be done away with to be replaced with soviets (workers' councils).

what you are describing is fascism.



And you believe in the tooth fairy?



posted on Dec, 25 2004 @ 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by enlightenment

Originally posted by sleeper
America who stopped Hitler-----did so with all the means of production in private hands----Capitalism.


An education in U.S. history: the United States, was not a capitalist economy during WW2, but rather a planned economy. Ever learn about the ration stamps?

In the 'free world' at the time, there was a great economic ideological battle occuring. When all was said and done, Keynes won and the macro economy looked like it'd have more 'controllers'.

Further more, sleeper, your inciting tag lines and black/white, right/left views only show your lack of intellectuality. Does the propaganda you spew come from the tube box?

The 'right' is not always right, and the 'left' is not always wrong; things are not a clear as night and day. The grey area is a tough thing for some to admit.


Well here is a bit of education for you as well.

What is Capitalism but the simple exchange of services and goods for money Are you saying that people and companies didn't get paid during WW2?

Worldwide----the left has been a huge disaster for the most people----creating the most poverty-----misery, failed governments.


So what's good about the left?



posted on Dec, 25 2004 @ 11:59 AM
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If I were schooled? Just so you know, I was rated in the top 25%... So sush, and owning a country is not a leftish ideology, that would be the PEOPLE owning the country.

Im sorry, this is like listening to Bush try to pronounce Abu Graib in his first speach mentioning it. You don't know WHAT your talking about, and probably jsut read some Regan anti-commie stuff. Hence, I head to the left, and I am going to try countering you now with some of Stalin's quotes:



Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed.


True, it would seem the Righties have educated you in a corrupt system so you hate commies, quite apparent by your neo-Nazi spiel.

You have been brought up to think as such, as therefore hate anything leftist. Hence he was right. End. Stalin pwns Regan!




When we hang the capitalists they will sell us the rope we use.


And they probably would...

But you see my point? Ignorance is obviously bliss to you, and shall be your death. And when it is, I shall only have pity left you.



posted on Dec, 25 2004 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by Teh_Gerbil
If I were schooled? Just so you know, I was rated in the top 25%... So sush, and owning a country is not a leftish ideology, that would be the PEOPLE owning the country.

Im sorry, this is like listening to Bush try to pronounce Abu Graib in his first speach mentioning it. You don't know WHAT your talking about, and probably jsut read some Regan anti-commie stuff. Hence, I head to the left, and I am going to try countering you now with some of Stalin's quotes:



Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed.


True, it would seem the Righties have educated you in a corrupt system so you hate commies, quite apparent by your neo-Nazi spiel.

You have been brought up to think as such, as therefore hate anything leftist. Hence he was right. End. Stalin pwns Regan!




When we hang the capitalists they will sell us the rope we use.


And they probably would...

But you see my point? Ignorance is obviously bliss to you, and shall be your death. And when it is, I shall only have pity left you.



And your daddy was Lenin and you are a neo-Bolshevik

Now you got me way down on your level, but if that's what it takes to communicate with lefties so be it.



posted on Dec, 25 2004 @ 04:51 PM
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Umm can i ask which country uses the most reasources in the world?
The US , what government does the US have? Right.
No offence but this arguemnt is just based on opinion.



posted on Dec, 25 2004 @ 06:20 PM
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Sleeper ... I was mocking your straight-from-propaganda replies... I was no Serious. Stalin was Hardly a true communist, any semi-idiotic person who even knows the slightest about him knows that. He just said he was. And he was a genuine Nutter.

You've just proved my point exactally. Well done, Sleeper, Well done. Thats why I put "See my Point?". Sleeper, honestly, PLEASE FOR GODS SAKE, Just actually open your mind. And remember what you were taught: Always put brain in drive before opening mouth.

I wish my dad Was Lenin, that'd be Awesome though. Famous dad. But he'd be MORE likey to be my Great Grandad if he were a relative.



posted on Dec, 25 2004 @ 06:38 PM
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Okay sleeper, there are a few things wrong with you.

a) you're a tool
b)you have no idea what you're talking about. Everyone knows that the USA uses 25% of the worlds energy, which shows how wasteful we are.
c) you don't give us any proof about the bs claims you're making, like how ''billions of people live in poverty through out the world." Give us some credible evidence.



posted on Dec, 25 2004 @ 10:25 PM
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Ok gang, we're getting a little too personal here, even though it's understandable, it's also against the T&C. Remember, don't feed the trolls.



posted on Dec, 26 2004 @ 12:24 AM
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Originally posted by sleeper
Now you got me way down on your level, but if that's what it takes to communicate with lefties so be it.


Yes, because when you bully a leftie he should act contrite and recognize the rightness of your point of view - not drag you down with him


Oh, and India is a socialist country now? Did I miss a memo somewhere? Last time I looked, they called it the world's largest democracy.

You say that lefties are uneducated. Considering your statement on India, I suggest you read up a bit. It would help.



posted on Dec, 26 2004 @ 12:56 AM
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Originally posted by sleeper
And you believe in the tooth fairy?


thats why I said 'ideally' and 'under true socialism'. A true socialist state has never existed, so you can't claim it to be a pipe dream just yet.



posted on Dec, 26 2004 @ 10:53 AM
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Sleeper, you have pretty much been wrong in everything your partisan mouth has spewed out onto this forum so far, save yourself the embarrassment...loose the whole my sport team is better than your sport team thing...educate yourself, and return to us when you are no longer a moronic hack.

The last thing this place needs is another knee jerk, crusading right wing drone

[edit on 26-12-2004 by electric squid carpet]



posted on Dec, 26 2004 @ 06:09 PM
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posted on Dec, 27 2004 @ 05:56 AM
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Where are the ATS right-wing members in this thread? Why do you guys pounce on left-wing authored posts making just as ludicrous comments as Sleeper's here, but remain awfully quiet on topics such as this? Seekerthereof? Horacid? LostSailor? Thomas Crowne? Others? Where are you guys to join with us in laughing at this rubbish? Or is it that you actually agree with Sleeper that the global left is sucking up the worlds resources?

Personally, I take your absence from threads like this as confirmation of your non-support for the topic at hand. Sleeper, you have little support from your right-wing bretheren it seems. That should be telling you something.



posted on Dec, 27 2004 @ 05:50 PM
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Something in support of Sleeper's position:

www.strom.clemson.edu...

blogs.salon.com...

www.gmu.edu...

Disclaimer: Views expressed in links are not necessarily my own

[edit on 27-12-2004 by Chris McGee]



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by Chris McGee
Something in support of Sleeper's position:

www.strom.clemson.edu...

blogs.salon.com...

www.gmu.edu...

Disclaimer: Views expressed in links are not necessarily my own

[edit on 27-12-2004 by Chris McGee]


Bring light into the dark emptiness of the left-----is blinding to those who lived in the leftwing cave all their lives.

Good thing there are plenty of people who know the real truth----not the leftwing diversion of truth.



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by sleeper


Bring light into the dark emptiness of the left-----is blinding to those who lived in the leftwing cave all their lives.

Good thing there are plenty of people who know the real truth----not the leftwing diversion of truth.

Frankly sleeper this hit and run tactic is getting anoying....please cease it.



posted on Dec, 28 2004 @ 11:01 AM
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The trouble is that simply to disagree with the US's current neocon ultra right view and version of the world is sufficient to get oneself labelled 'lefty', 'commie' or any other absurd and ludicrous caricature.

The greatest consumers of the globes' resources - the USA along with the other 'developed nations' - is clear for all to see....the rest is mere explaination or excuses.



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