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The left is sucking up world resources

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posted on Dec, 24 2004 @ 01:38 PM
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Who is sucking up all the resources in the world? Many lefties say it is America.

There are about 350 million Americans in a world of over 6 billion people.

Americans make up a fraction of the world population.

American Capitalism not only feeds its people but keeps billions of other people from starving to death.

Socialist and Communist countries like China, India and Africa create billions of people and have no clue on how to feed them----so poverty is rampant in these countries.

Because of Capitalism efficiency in production of food and other goods has made it possible to use less resources per person----so Americans live better with a lot less than do people living under Communism and Socialism.

Yet, the tiny population of America is accused by the leftwing countries of using up the worlds resources.

Common sense, if the left had any, would show who is sucking up the world resources.

Why do these leftwing countries who cant feed the billions of people they already have continue to create more people if they are so concerned with depleting the planets resources?


[edit on 24-12-2004 by sleeper]




posted on Dec, 24 2004 @ 02:45 PM
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BAM! as an antidote to your ignorance: www.earthtrends.wri.org...

china consumes in total 854,743 metric tons oil equivalent per year, compared to 1,942,807 for the US. Remember that China's population is around 4 times that of the US.



posted on Dec, 24 2004 @ 02:56 PM
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The reason people say that is cuz its true..
The USA isn't the most wastefull country in the world per capita though, that dubious honor falls on...Drum roll please...............CANADA! I'm sooooo proud



posted on Dec, 24 2004 @ 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by General Zapata
BAM! as an antidote to your ignorance: www.earthtrends.wri.org...


Good link.

Lets look at some of that data:

Annual motor gasoline consumption, 2000 (liters per person)
United States 1,679
World 179

Annual meat consumption, 1998 (kg per person)
United States 122
World 38

Annual paper consumption, 2000 (kg per person)
United States 331
World 53



posted on Dec, 24 2004 @ 03:16 PM
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Sleeper, let me guess, the lefties are also at fault for trying to take over Europe 60 years ago?



posted on Dec, 24 2004 @ 03:23 PM
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Sleeper, the US is the worlds largest agricultural exporter but the EU and Canada are second and third.

I think you can agree that they both lean to the left.

So much for your argument.



posted on Dec, 24 2004 @ 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by AceOfBase
Sleeper, the US is the worlds largest agricultural exporter but the EU and Canada are second and third.

I think you can agree that they both lean to the left.


I'm Canadian Ace and I can tell you that I lean both to the left AND the right after a case of beer.



posted on Dec, 24 2004 @ 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
Sleeper, let me guess, the lefties are also at fault for trying to take over Europe 60 years ago?


Yeah! Whats your point?


Hitler confiscated all the means of productions----Socialism.

America who stopped Hitler-----did so with all the means of production in private hands----Capitalism.



posted on Dec, 24 2004 @ 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by sleeper

Originally posted by intrepid
Sleeper, let me guess, the lefties are also at fault for trying to take over Europe 60 years ago?


Yeah! Whats your point?


Hitler confiscated all the means of productions----Socialism.

America who stopped Hitler-----did so with all the means of production in private hands----Capitalism.


Dude, Fascism is about as far right as you can get. Thanks for confirming to me that you have NO clue as to what you're talking about.



posted on Dec, 24 2004 @ 05:28 PM
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Side note: Sleeper posts, intrepid posts, Sleeper logs off.
Not my debate skills, the others lack of knowledge.


But then again, I'm a "leftie".



posted on Dec, 24 2004 @ 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by General Zapata
BAM! as an antidote to your ignorance: www.earthtrends.wri.org...

china consumes in total 854,743 metric tons oil equivalent per year, compared to 1,942,807 for the US. Remember that China's population is around 4 times that of the US.



That's because most of the Chinese are in poverty and produces very little of anything for themselves or anyone else.

It takes lots of oil to feed the world----America consumes lots because it produces lots-----for those countries that don't know how to produce for their own people.

BTW there is no antidote for leftwing ignorance.

[edit on 24-12-2004 by sleeper]



posted on Dec, 24 2004 @ 05:30 PM
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Sleeper... The US is also the msot polluting country, killing the world thanks to bush.

Its also causing alot of problems around the world by exploitation, and wars that were uneeded except to exploit other countries resources.

So please...

And Hitler was Facist/Nationalist. Stupid, you really are, im sorry, but you are.



posted on Dec, 24 2004 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by AceOfBase
Sleeper, the US is the worlds largest agricultural exporter but the EU and Canada are second and third.

I think you can agree that they both lean to the left.

So much for your argument.


I didn't include Canada and Europe----they have just enough Capitalism to keep them somewhat productive.


I said China, India, and Africa, and the other Third World Countries.



posted on Dec, 24 2004 @ 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by sleeper
I didn't include Canada and Europe----they have just enough Capitalism to keep them somewhat productive.

I said China, India, and Africa, and the other Third World Countries.


You said socialist and leftwing countries.
You're title was "The left is sucking up world resources"
Is India much more socialist or leftwing than the Euros?



posted on Dec, 24 2004 @ 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by sardion2000
The reason people say that is cuz its true..
The USA isn't the most wastefull country in the world per capita though, that dubious honor falls on...Drum roll please...............CANADA! I'm sooooo proud


Much of what America consumes is put back into the mouths of the billions of people in poverty around the world.

If America wasn't doing that there would be a lot less hungry people in leftwing countries----many would be dead from starvation.



posted on Dec, 24 2004 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by Teh_Gerbil
Sleeper... The US is also the msot polluting country, killing the world thanks to bush.

Its also causing alot of problems around the world by exploitation, and wars that were uneeded except to exploit other countries resources.

So please...

And Hitler was Facist/Nationalist. Stupid, you really are, im sorry, but you are.


The US has to clean up a lot of leftwing crap around the world----its a dirty business----some one has to clean up after you lefties.

Hitler is down and out, the USSR is down and out----still lots of leftwing poop out there to dispose of.



posted on Dec, 24 2004 @ 10:20 PM
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So your are saying that practically enslaving people in sweatshops abroad to avoid human rights issues at home is good? You'd probably like to see the "Leftist" Human rights in America removed, wouldn't you, so you could do this at home?

Cleaing up "Leftist" stuff abroad by overthrowing right-wing Saddam eh? And the Taliban who were also Right wing? Gimme a break, you must be stupid or ignorant. Or both.

Guys, we are wasting our time here im afraid. :sigh:



posted on Dec, 25 2004 @ 01:04 AM
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Sorry, sleeper...the only thing socialist about Hitler was the disguise he ran under...try again...

And your argument is truly absurd. That policy that helps "feed those other people" are typically left wing ideas. You know, that whole giving people something for nothing...



posted on Dec, 25 2004 @ 02:32 AM
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Originally posted by sleeper
Hitler confiscated all the means of productions----Socialism.


GAH! will the incorrect labelling never end? *tears out hair*

under socialism, true socialism, the PEOPLE own the means of production EQUALLY, not the government. The government forcibly takes it from the previous owners (the capitalists) and gives each person their equal portion. The government is only required in the early stages of the revolution to make sure that the transition is smooth. After that, ideally, it will be done away with to be replaced with soviets (workers' councils).

what you are describing is fascism.



posted on Dec, 25 2004 @ 03:01 AM
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Originally posted by sleeper
America who stopped Hitler-----did so with all the means of production in private hands----Capitalism.


An education in U.S. history: the United States, was not a capitalist economy during WW2, but rather a planned economy. Ever learn about the ration stamps?

In the 'free world' at the time, there was a great economic ideological battle occuring. When all was said and done, Keynes won and the macro economy looked like it'd have more 'controllers'.

Further more, sleeper, your inciting tag lines and black/white, right/left views only show your lack of intellectuality. Does the propaganda you spew come from the tube box?

The 'right' is not always right, and the 'left' is not always wrong; things are not a clear as night and day. The grey area is a tough thing for some to admit.




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