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posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 01:54 AM
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a reply to: TarzanBeta



retty please? Would you say something of value?


Now, you are just copying my sentiment.




posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 04:00 AM
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originally posted by: TarzanBeta
I didn't miss your point. It would seem you missed all of mine.

God did draw lines, in fact. There are borders, indeed. There are mountains, oceans, rivers, lakes, creeks, valleys, plains, deserts, tundras, swamps, islands, the natural laws of physics, the natural laws of biology, the natural laws of chemistry, the limitations of the physical senses, the limitations of the human mind, the modified genealogy of every generation, and the modified landscape for every generation.


Those are natural borders, if you even want to call them borders at all. But you're also saying the same thing Cretum was saying to start with. He said:



I have no respect for any flag or borders. God didn't draw lines on the map, man did. Drew the map, too!


You're talking about "God's Borders vs. Man's Borders" the same as Cretum. He didn't deny those borders but did deny Man Made ones. Which is correct since Man made the Map and the Map is not the territory. If the map isn't the territory then neither are the lines.

As a side note, "God" is another "Assumed Truth" that get's thrown in too as if any two peoples version of "God" is even the same nor believed in by the other. So there's that to think about too.



posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 08:31 AM
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originally posted by: TarzanBeta
a reply to: CretumOrbis

Should I carry on?


Please, do. I stand corrected, God certainly drew plenty of lines. Just not the ones that people usually fight over.

Don't get the wrong impression, I'm preachin' the same message, just in a different way.

I will admit though, my style can be a bit abrasive at times. That's intentional, trust me.





posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 08:36 AM
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There is a nice piece done by a comedian of my childhood, Red Skelton, about the pledge of allegiance. If you can find it, it's a good read or watch. It might be on YouTube.



posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 09:17 AM
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a reply to: maybee

Hey maybee. Looked it up. That was quite good. My dad used to mention Red Skelton. - Also from Tennessee.



posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 09:22 AM
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a reply to: mOjOm

It is not my job to cater to a person's lowly opinion.

You will be unwise and incomplete in thinking if you don't believe in God. You take away a HUGE part of everything, and therefore, all your thoughts will be incomplete to some degree.

That is just like those who believe in God but refuse to learn much about any science. They'll see the side of things that you're too blind to see, but they'll never be able to relate those things to you because your language is different - but the two are necessary for language to be full and for thoughts to be understood.

So when I tell you, YOU SHOULD PRAY, I am doing you a favor and revealing to you a great portion of my strength.

It dawns on me now - the most dangerous part of me is this side.



posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 09:23 AM
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a reply to: CretumOrbis

I tend to get somewhat abrasive, too. That's fine. Iron sharpens iron.



posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: zazzafrazz

I know your kind.

You're not one of the naive. You're one of the minions.



posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 10:29 AM
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a reply to: TarzanBeta

Glad you finally got my point.

Now.

Take a deep breath, laugh and then go write some more.



posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 10:35 AM
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Jesus would be a socialist.



posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: boymonkey74

You really need to go read more about Jesus. Really, really badly.



posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: TarzanBeta

You never heard of Christian socialism?.

en.wikipedia.org...
edit on 12-6-2015 by boymonkey74 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: CretumOrbis

I'm too busy drooling over the brand new Sony A7RmkII. I'll write more later. :p



posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 11:44 AM
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a reply to: boymonkey74

The spirit of greed rules this world.

The closest to Christian socialism that would be found in the Bible is the prediction in Revelations about when the Devil is cast from Heaven and goes after the woman with child. But she will have wings like an eagle to live in the wilderness in security for a time. She will give birth to the man child. The devil will come to devour the child, but a flood will interfere with the devil's attack. Combine that with the new converts being asked to sell all that they have and bring it to the apostles to divide among the brethren. However, the purpose was not socialism. Their intent was not to live their lives working in a mausoleum. The intent was to use that money to provide everyone's food and clothing while supporting the ministry. It was the first harvest of souls. It had to be done quickly. There was never an intent for that same method to continue for 2000 years. It was obvious that the mind of the world would turn away from God and instead use His name to justify their domination of it.

There was an END, a reason.

Socialism has no reason, and no end, not for the common person, because you cannot ever, ever, ever, in this world, possibly guarantee to the world that it will be better. You simply cannot. People are too lazy, selfish, and hurt. But it has somewhat of a reason and somewhat of an end to a future dictator, though, the dictator will die as well. For the mortal, these things detract from the freedom to serve for the betterment, nay, salvation, of others.

If you are too busy working to pay the bills because you haven't yet figured out that this is not all there is to life, then you won't have the freedom to make more money to pay the bills and also to help others. As well, you won't have the freedom to determine what the whole point of what you're doing really is. The irony is that the single people should be more wise to this information than whole families. Whole families may worry about the bellies of their children, but single people technically do not have anyone else to serve. But yet, I find that it is those with families who indeed to realize these things. It is because it is not just the bellies of the children we consider. It is their personality, their intelligence, their attitude, their strength, their humility, and their future which we think about.

I will not teach my children that the daddy they think is so smart is a pushover in this world. Though I serve and am patient with the most unruly people (because the most unruly people usually are prematurely judged and no one has yet heard them), that does not make me a push over. But the most aggressive and greedy and thoughtless people find themselves at odds with me for the sake of my children. They will see perseverance, they will see dedication, integrity, wisdom, loyalty; they will not see fear, laziness, whining, succumbing to the will of the lesser. They will not see someone who panders to the celebrity, neither who retires from the homeless. They will see a fraction of what they should be, and they should use it for the better.

The community will not raise my children because the community has become less than what it should be.

I do not care for ism. I do not care for anyone else's standard. If it's not excellence in every single area, I don't want it - where excellence is first and foremost the actual and true respect of God, and not the weak dismissive "sure" respect of God. Where the respect of God is revealed, not by using the same old arguments and terms, but by proving through ability and action the few words necessary to simply define what was witnessed. Without bias.

Then excellence is in loving people. Loving people requires much action. But today, because knowledge is considered the epitome of reason (by the misguided, by the way), it is not easy to love people without having knowledge or the uncanny ability to obtain it. Unfortunately love these days is so poorly defined and misunderstood. Love these days is an overly sensitive whiner not getting what they want and someone giving it to them and saying they love them. Love these days is patting people on the back who say, "I'm good enough. That's right." Love these days is "Down with the rich, we're for the poor!" Liars. Love these days, to the world, IS a lie. As long as you tell your friends what they want to hear, they'll love you.

Finding a friend that is willing to let you be a true friend is like finding a diamond in the forest at night. Finding a friend that is a true friend to you is almost as difficult as seeing God Himself.

Socialism may try to gain adherents any way it pleases. It's not for me or mine.



posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: TarzanBeta

BINGO!

Who's a clever little poppet.

Any other clueless rantings and accusations about me?

I'm waiting with baited breath to know what you think.

Really I am.



posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 04:42 PM
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a reply to: zazzafrazz

You came to taunt. You offered nothing. You provided plenty of evidence of that. I didn't intend for you to be a dart board. You came darting at me as I ranted. You stepped into the line of fire with arrogance, providing no wisdom, therefore, relief, from my thoughts - but rather sought to temper me without sharpening me again as I was hot. If you had wisdom or a heart, and you saw that I was misguided, you could have guided me. But you're not a guide. You are, quite literally, the troll to which everyone refers.

The naive would have simply tried to state an illogical or an uninformed case.

The minions desire to destroy the integrity of the individual so that their words may become useless.

It is clear what your intent is. A drop of water won't quench your thirst. It would be pointless to ask.
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posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 08:47 PM
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a reply to: TarzanBeta

There it is.

That's it?
Anymore?
Let me know if should hang around 'til your done.

I came and posted an opinion, you simply didn't agree nor like it.....



posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 08:47 PM
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a reply to: TarzanBeta

There it is.

That's it?
Anymore?
Let me know if should hang around 'til your done.

I came and posted an opinion, you simply didn't agree nor like it.....



posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: zazzafrazz

Opinions aren't allowed in this thread, less they fall inline with the OP of course!



posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 09:41 PM
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Your bio information is interesting; your philosophies contain many pearls of wisdom. Thoughtful considerations for living with authenticity and integrity.
I thought this was a great read.





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