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Putin Keeps Pope Waiting, Gets Told off by Francis on Ukraine

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posted on Jun, 10 2015 @ 05:28 PM
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Putin Keeps Pope Waiting, Gets Told off by Francis on Ukraine


Pope Francis waited for more than an hour to tell Russian President Vladimir Putin to commit to peace and dialogue on Ukraine.

Putin kept the leader of 1.2 billion Catholics waiting for 70 minutes -- a rare occurrence at the Vatican. At their first meeting in November 2013, he was 50 minutes late. That was about how long their second encounter lasted.

The meeting got off to a chilly start. Francis looked solemn as he greeted Putin in German with a simple “welcome” in his study at the Apostolic Palace. Putin, who picked up the language as a KGB agent in East Germany, responded with a gesture of thanks.




The two men sat on opposite sides of the pope’s desk, gazing at each other in silence as they waited for journalists and photographers to leave. Once alone, they cut to the chase.

On Ukraine, “the Holy Father stated the need to commit to a sincere and great effort to achieve peace, and it was agreed it was important to rebuild a climate of dialogue and that all parties commit to enforce the Minsk accords,” referring to the cease-fire deal signed in February, the pope’s spokesman, Father Federico Lombardi, said in a statement.

The pope asked that aid workers be given access to address the “serious” humanitarian crisis, Lombardi said.

The conversation then shifted to the Middle East, in particular Syria and Iraq, where both agreed on the urgency for peace with a special reference to the plight of Christian minorities in the Muslim-dominated region.


click link for remainder of article..

Apparently Putin has an issue with punctuality.. He has done that to more than a few heads of states over the years.

Either or one of the more unusual incidents involving the Vatican.




posted on Jun, 10 2015 @ 05:41 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

As if Putin or anybody with half an ounce of sense would give a crap about keeping some old man waiting..esp when said old man is head of a silly cult that like to interfere with children and preach lies about some god and its role among its followers.



posted on Jun, 10 2015 @ 05:44 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Maybe they should have thrown holy water on him, and placed a crucifix on his forehead while they had him there, just a test, of course.




posted on Jun, 10 2015 @ 05:50 PM
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Oh man, that's it! Maybe the Pope can send armored prayer jets and drop a few mental mashing bible bombs on Russia. I mean come on! That's the last straw!

Thank god we get a dozen Russia threads from the same poster daily. Had we not, I would have missed this and my whole life changed. *phew*



posted on Jun, 10 2015 @ 05:52 PM
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originally posted by: projectbane
a reply to: Xcathdra

As if Putin or anybody with half an ounce of sense would give a crap about keeping some old man waiting..esp when said old man is head of a silly cult that like to interfere with children and preach lies about some god and its role among its followers.



probably the many Russian Orthodox catholics that putin caters too, and he himself claims to be

But hey who cares about history or even knowing the background of the subject right?!

Screw it lets just take it as an opportunity to soap box about your disdain for religion!

/end sarcasm



posted on Jun, 10 2015 @ 06:00 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask


Screw it lets just take it as an opportunity to soap box about your disdain for religion!


It honestly feels like that is now the zeitgeist of ATS.




OT: Wouldn't the topic of the meeting itself have been more interesting to discuss than Putin's tardiness?
edit on 10-6-2015 by CharlieSpeirs because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 10 2015 @ 06:14 PM
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Let's see ..the Pope who is on the eternal plan had to wait ?? Seeing the Vatican is not dealing with a war on his border or having to deal with the many western leaders and msm constantly trying to demean him and his special origination despite the crys of many dead kids who lost their lives in Canada alone through residential schools, I think that Putin's visit was very gratuitous on his part .

Do you think they actually talked seriously about anything of importance that maybe the Vatican could do ? Or was it meant to tell Putin to step in line or he would unleash his dogs of war the Jesuits .



posted on Jun, 10 2015 @ 06:19 PM
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a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Politics is THE religion, of the highest order.

Getting into the politics OF religion, you could discover the root of all "evil".




posted on Jun, 10 2015 @ 06:45 PM
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I wonder if he took his confession ? Man!!!! wouldn't you have just loved to have been a fly on the wall for that conversation ? Lol



posted on Jun, 10 2015 @ 06:52 PM
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a reply to: Rosinitiate

So nothing on topic and a personal attack.

Putin kept a head of state waiting for an hour. Not very professional is it?



posted on Jun, 10 2015 @ 06:53 PM
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originally posted by: Greathouse
I wonder if he took his confession ? Man!!!! wouldn't you have just loved to have been a fly on the wall for that conversation ? Lol


To get an idea just read Mein Kampf.



posted on Jun, 10 2015 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Rosinitiate

So nothing on topic and a personal attack.

Putin kept a head of state waiting for an hour. Not very professional is it?



No, no. I mean it, they (the trinity) should bible bomb his ass.



posted on Jun, 10 2015 @ 08:45 PM
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originally posted by: Rosinitiate

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Rosinitiate

So nothing on topic and a personal attack.

Putin kept a head of state waiting for an hour. Not very professional is it?



No, no. I mean it, they (the trinity) should bible bomb his ass.


The Pope with its vast wealth and millions of followers in Russia could easily foment dissent towards all Putin policies to the point of revolution. Power even Putin does not have.



posted on Jun, 11 2015 @ 06:27 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

If the article you posted is unbiased ?

How come Pope said that Sanctions against Russia should be removed and are a mistake.



posted on Jun, 11 2015 @ 06:36 AM
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a reply to: projectbane

then why bother atcually meeting the pope at all ?????????????- just snub him and sever dipoloatic relations with the vatican

deliberatly being late is childish idiocy



posted on Jun, 11 2015 @ 06:39 AM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP

The Pope with its vast wealth and millions of followers in Russia

could easily foment dissent towards all Putin policies to the point of revolution. Power even Putin does not have.




....sigh...



posted on Jun, 11 2015 @ 06:41 AM
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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask


But hey who cares about history or even knowing the background of the subject right?!





A staggeringly small minority apparently.



posted on Jun, 11 2015 @ 06:55 AM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

I think you're on to something here. Russian Orthodox Christianity has been growing in popularity and numbers, over the years also promoted by Putin himself.

To be criticized by Pope Francis will have an effect IF the Russian public hears about it.



posted on Jun, 11 2015 @ 07:18 AM
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originally posted by: masqua


To be criticized by Pope Francis will have an effect IF the Russian public hears about it.





The Eastern Rite Church does not look lovingly on the Bishop of Rome. It is far more likely that any public chastisement from Francis would actually bolster Putin's public persona.

He has poured untold millions into local Orthodox churches for renovations, new construction, etc.



posted on Jun, 11 2015 @ 07:26 AM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP

originally posted by: Rosinitiate

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Rosinitiate

So nothing on topic and a personal attack.

Putin kept a head of state waiting for an hour. Not very professional is it?



No, no. I mean it, they (the trinity) should bible bomb his ass.


The Pope with its vast wealth and millions of followers in Russia could easily foment dissent towards all Putin policies to the point of revolution. Power even Putin does not have.


This is true the pope actually has a lot of power in Russia he could easily turn the Russian orthodox against him. Why do you think he sat there listening to what the pope had to say. Though the pope has no direct control he can indeed make the church have an official position and that causes the Russian orthodoxy to create one as well. And make them deal with topics they otherwise could ignore.
edit on 6/11/15 by dragonridr because: (no reason given)



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