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Children as young as 12 are receiving drugs to prepare them for sex change!

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posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 08:38 AM
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originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: NavyDoc

Thank you for that empathic and reasonable response

I appreciate that it is a hard subject and none really has the answers to this, so why people are so quick to politicize a childs hardship I'll never know.

I asked you how you wold personally treat this, as I only have your posting history to go on which comes across (to me) as angry and very anti anything "not normal", I have thought to myself in the past "imagine if you were some poor gay guy wanting medical assistance from this person" You really don't come across as having empathy for peoples struggles that may lead to medical issues for them, therefore, I was interested to hear how you would actually treat this issue and am pleasantly surprised by your response.

Trans is a hard subject, so hard for parents, the child, everyone, so much harder than for people who come in and fire off how sick everyone is involved on something they have no idea about. (referring to others not you)

Thanks for the reply.


Thanks. The only thing one can say for certain is that it is a difficult subject.

When having a discussion on difficult subjects there are many aspects--aspects that are quite often in conflict--medical, political, economic, social, moral, psychological, psychological, etc and there is never no one good answer.

I'm a libertarian politically, so politically I tend to side that way with things.




posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 08:40 AM
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a reply to: TrappedPrincess

I imagine it is hard to read the stuff in this thread, I wouldn't be involved in them if I were in your position, it would be too hurtful for me ( Im not so tough methinks)
How do you stay focused on your transition in a mentally healthy way when reading these kind of threads?



posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: queenofswords

Giving children this young body and mind altering chemicals is absolutely disgusting and anyone that supports these practices is disgusting as well.



posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 08:49 AM
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I don't let people bother me online most of the really bad ones are just trolls. Now in my real world day to day I'm still in that ambiguous stage (I've been on blockers for about a year and estrogen for 4 months) of transition so I don't really get messed with. For those that know me and know about what I'm doing well most of those know my reputation of savagely defending myself and the amount of drama that would befall someone who hurt me. I have family and friends know what I'm saying? So I'm pretty confident and mentally strong for the most part though I do struggle emotionally from time to time.


Mornings are worst and on the bad ones I have like a private 5 min cry session to let my negativity and sadness out. Then up by the bootstraps and on my way. Gat damn Marine Corps made me pretty efficient machine lol, seriously I think all young adults coming of age could benefit from at least a 2 year tour with that branch. It will prepare you greatly for the cruelty of life.

a reply to: zazzafrazz

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posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 08:50 AM
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Your beer gut is disgusting...


a reply to: MoreBeer



Have another



posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 08:59 AM
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originally posted by: MoreBeer
a reply to: queenofswords

Giving children this young body and mind altering chemicals is absolutely disgusting and anyone that supports these practices is disgusting as well.



I 100% agree.

It should be a choice only made as a adult when the find fully formed.

Teenagers and children go through phases. Letting the mutilate there body's over something they could very well change there mind on would end in catastrophe for many.



posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 09:01 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok
Again, there is no body mutilation going on in the children.

Mutilation is a very hysterical word to use for a hormone blocker.
ETA, Plenty of girl i went to school with were on the pill, that manipulates hormones...are they being mutilated?
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posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 09:05 AM
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originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: crazyewok
Again, there is no body mutilation going on in the children.

Mutilation is a very hysterical word to use for a hormone blocker.
ETA, Plenty of girl i went to school with were on the pill, that manipulates hormones...are they being mutilated?


Messing with hormone unnecessarily during such years is to me dangerous.


Leave it to adult hood for gods sake people. Stop pushing this agenda younger and younger.



posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 09:06 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Including the pill?



posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 09:10 AM
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originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: crazyewok

Including the pill?


Thats different. Its effects are not permanent and it used to treat medical conditions.

And before you say the whole sex change thing is a condition. At teenage years there no way to determine if its a phase or real.

You want acceptance? You want equality? FINE But for god sake stops pushing your life style and gender bending on children!

Your shooting yourself in the foot. I am all for giving you equality and ect but pushing your views on children is alienating me and other now.
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posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: TrappedPrincess

I will while you advocate some more disgusting child abuse.



posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 09:12 AM
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I assure you Mr Ewok that once you stop taking blockers the original hormones kick back in pretty quickly. Admittedly though if you take them for too long it could make one infertile. So my solution to that is put some sperm or an ovary on ice so that if you ever decide to procreate with your original DNA you can.

Please understand that their are supportive and informative professionals out there to help guide any family that may be dealing with this. All the big questions and concerns get addressed, it is part of the process to even get prescribed hormones. It's not like you can just walk in CVS and say "hey give me some of that their estrogen" .

As for people who regret decisions about their individual identity they probably weren't very sure of and secure about themselves in the first place. Gee I wonder if that could be in some cases a result of restrictive and oppressive parenting which I know first hand what that is like.

t reply to: crazyewok



posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 09:14 AM
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Your shooting yourself in the foot.
Actually you are. Please answer the question
Is taking the pill a mutilation?

You obviously weren't a private school girl like me cause there was one in a hundred that used it for medical.....

It IS a hormone blocker.



posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 09:16 AM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: crazyewok





You want acceptance? You want equality? FINE But for god sake stops pushing your life style and gender bending on children!

Your shooting yourself in the foot. I am all for giving you equality and ect but pushing your views on children is alienating me and other now.
Ok Mr Dramatic, nobody is pushing anything on anyone simply spreading awareness that their are avenues for support and education out their for everyone to make their own minds up as to what is BEST for them.

Nobody is kicking down your door and saying "Gimme your children, we are taking them to get SRS. MUWAHAHAHAHA.....
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posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: MoreBeer
a reply to: queenofswords

Giving children this young body and mind altering chemicals is absolutely disgusting and anyone that supports these practices is disgusting as well.



Do you think suicide is a better option for trans youth?



posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: TrappedPrincess
I assure you Mr Ewok that once you stop taking blockers the original hormones kick back in pretty quickly. Admittedly though if you take them for too long it could make one infertile. So my solution to that is put some sperm or an ovary on ice so that if you ever decide to procreate with your original DNA you can.




Or better to wait until they are of ADULT age.

My view will not budge on this one inch.

How you live your life as a adult is up to you. Be gay, transgender or what ever I wont hate your for it or stop you.


But leave the kids out of it!

The more you insist on bringing children into it the more hostile I will get to the gay and transgender community.

There is a line and your crossing it for me.



posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 09:21 AM
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originally posted by: jrod

originally posted by: MoreBeer
a reply to: queenofswords

Giving children this young body and mind altering chemicals is absolutely disgusting and anyone that supports these practices is disgusting as well.



Do you think suicide is a better option for trans youth?



Giving the love and support and mental healthcare until they reach adulthood and can make the decision is a better option.



posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 09:22 AM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Leave kids out of what?

Do you think they are some imaginary perfect human child specimen of humanity, then hit 18 and become gays or trans?
I dont understand your premise of disassociating a child to the adult they become, you understand it is the same person?
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posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 09:23 AM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: jrod

originally posted by: MoreBeer
a reply to: queenofswords

Giving children this young body and mind altering chemicals is absolutely disgusting and anyone that supports these practices is disgusting as well.



Do you think suicide is a better option for trans youth?



Giving the love and support and mental healthcare until they reach adulthood and can make the decision is a better option.


Do you think these parents aren't doing this? Do you think they are operating from another motive for their child?



posted on Jun, 9 2015 @ 09:23 AM
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originally posted by: jrod

originally posted by: MoreBeer
a reply to: queenofswords

Giving children this young body and mind altering chemicals is absolutely disgusting and anyone that supports these practices is disgusting as well.



Do you think suicide is a better option for trans youth?



Definitely not!

At 18 after a child has time to experience the world, their mind, and body they should have every single right to make these choices. I would fully support my own offspring if that was their choice.

I wanted to be a T-Rex at age 5. Thank god my parents weren't loons and there weren't dinosaur hormones.
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