MH17 tragedy witnesses refute Russia theory of Ukrainian Buk missiles

It is nice to look at differing sites try to portray the info in ways to support a side of a story . It's nice to find little nuggets of facts that will give you pause and make you try to understand just what might be going on behind the media and press . The coup is a well know fact now by all but those that refuse to bring that fact into further complying the picture . Some pieces of the puzzle are very much complicated and it would only be possible to know where they fit after most of the pieces are in place .

"The findings followed over a week after investigative journalist collective Bellingcat concluded that satellite images released by Russia's Defence Ministry and presented on June 2 in Moscow, claiming to show two Ukrainian BUKs within firing range of MH17, were in fact false." fair enough but is there a piece to this "Bellingcat" that would make a difference ? Well here is a glimpse as to the shape of that piece to factor in . "Does Eliot Higgins have a Belgian girlfriend?" "Or is it one of those regular visits to the NATO headquarters, where he will be briefed about the new party line concerning the desired outcome of Eliot’s ‘research’? " Elliot Higgins tweets that he was off to Brussels while Phil Breedlove tags his tweet . russia-insider.com...

" “Supreme Allied Commander Europe” directly linking to Bellingcat: goo.gl/f9GCfC " As one commenter put it "Presumably “Supreme Allied Commander Europe”'s access to 'Full Spectrum Dominance' of globe spanning satellites, Five Eyes, NSA, GCHQ, CIA, SBU, Western media, State Department, is just not coming up with the goods when he needs to track Russian forces - so he has turned to an unemployed amateur blogger in the UK.

Breedlove is so wrapped up in his agenda and 'narrative', that he does not even see this kind of referral just proves he is lying. " Make of it what you will but I am sure there were many eye brows raised on that fact . :>)

a reply to: the2ofusr1

There was no coup and that has been established time and time again.

The Bellingcat investigation thus far has been accurate and their conclusions have been supported with facts and evidence.

a reply to: Xcathdra

I would think also that if it was true that Russia did invade the Ukraine it could possibly be found in the Crimea . That being said , whey wouldn't Ukraine not go to war in the Crimea as that is where the Russian troops actually are ? Do you think their logic is that it would be easier to defeat Russia on there border in the Donbass region instead of the isolated Crimea ? We have heard the many cries many times that Russia has invaded the Ukraine but have yet to see anything other then social media to support it .

If it is true then it is true in the Crimea and that would mean that Ukraine has no intention of facing the Russian bear but is willing to kill Ukrainian people in the DPR/LPR district . The official investigation into MH17 is not being done by a random Blogger that is running to NATO headquarters and so is nothing more then a propaganda tool of NATO .

a reply to: the2ofusr1

" “Supreme Allied Commander Europe” directly linking to Bellingcat:

Putin directly linking to his state run media...what's the problem as nobody has proven them wrong yet, care to try?

"Does Eliot Higgins have a Belgian girlfriend?" "Or is it one of those regular visits to the NATO headquarters, where he will be briefed about the new party line concerning the desired outcome of Eliot’s ‘research’? " Elliot Higgins tweets that he was off to Brussels while Phil Breedlove tags his tweet . russia-insider.com...

Maybe you should and this time try it without using Russian media...

By enlisting the help of British investigative journalist Eliot Higgins, who plans to distribute the recent findings to NATO and other organizations, Leviev said he was hoping to remind the international community not to soften up on Russia.

Higgins confirmed his cooperation with the activists in written comments to the Kyiv Post, saying his group would “be passing on the information to various individuals and organizations” in order to attract attention to Russia’s role in the Ukraine conflict.

www.kyivpost.com...

So when he gives the info that has been sent to him by citizen journalists, and gives it to NATO that makes him all buddy buddy with NATO...nice imagination though.

See what parroting Russian media does for you...

a reply to: the2ofusr1

I would think also that if it was true that Russia did invade the Ukraine it could possibly be found in the Crimea .

There is no if...it really happened and good old Vlad has admitted to sending troops to Crimea with the intent of annexing Crimea.

Here the def of invasion once again...

in·va·sion (ĭn-vā′zhən)
n.
1. The act of invading, especially the entrance of an armed force into a territory to conquer.
2. The entry into bodily tissue and subsequent proliferation of an injurious entity, such as a pathogen or tumor.
3. An intrusion or encroachment: Your reading her diary was an invasion of her privacy.

www.thefreedictionary.com...

Now as Putin has already admitted to making plans to take back Crimea, and the fact that Russian active military that didn't come from there base were on Ukrainian territory taking over government buildings is an invasion.

Unless you know a different definition of invasion...check Russian dictionaries as they probably have one.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

So why hasn't Ukraine tried to capture their invaded country back from Russia ? I mean ,they only seem to be killing Russian speaking Ukrainian people in the DPR/LPR . If they really want to kill the big bad Russians then getting their Crimea back would afford them that opportunity ,wouldn't it ? They wouldn't even have to destroy civilian homes ,hospitals and business because the military has it's bases right there .You don't need spy satellites or social media to find where they are because it's right on the web .

a reply to: the2ofusr1

So why hasn't Ukraine tried to capture their invaded country back from Russia ?

I take you missed this...

Straight from a source your familiar with...

Russia was ready to bring its nuclear weapons into a state of alert during last year's tensions over the Crimean Peninsula

www.zerohedge.com...

Does that answer your question?

I mean ,they only seem to be killing Russian speaking Ukrainian people in the DPR/LPR .

You are definitely going to have to post a source for that tripe.

If they really want to kill the big bad Russians then getting their Crimea back would afford them that opportunity ,wouldn't it ?

Again you seem to forget one thing...the answer is my first reply to you.

You don't need spy satellites or social media to find where they are because it's right on the web .

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Well I wonder why they are not willing to in the case of DPR/LPR seeing they are willing to over the Crimea ? Do you think that they want a prolonged war with Ukraine ?