Iran sends 15,000 troops to support Assad in Syria

Todays fron page on Jpost............... Iran spending billions to back Assad www.jpost.com...

Turkish, Saudi and the good old USA sponsoring the Sunnis in their Middle East genocide against Christians. Thanks guys

originally posted by: maddy21

originally posted by: MrSpad

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
Assad doesn't have any support?

After ISIS sacked Palmyra, I'd say Assad has his country on his side. He's facing off against western back rebels and ISIS/ISIL. Why on earth would regular Syrians go against Assad at the risk of an ISIS victory?

If the US wasn't so frikken stupid and hungry for blood and profits, they'd be backing Assad in every way possible and smashing ISIS.

They would be demanding Israel use its Jets to bomb ISIS as well

Stupid Americans know nothing but what is on FOX NEWS - your sleep walking into a major conflict and you don't eve realize your applauding it.

Assad is done. His Army prefers to run from ISIS so they can go off and defect to the rebels. He desperately needs more Iranians, Lebanese and Hezbollah because they will fight and not defect. The US would be foolish to back Assad because he simply will never be allowed by the Syrian people to retake power. What is left of his territory is the Capital area and the coast. Everything else is been taken over by some other group all of whom are hostile to Assad. At this point it is going to be a race between the Western backed rebels and ISIS to capture as much of Assads territory before the other does. On the plus side the rebels will keep gaining man power from defections. Then the real fight begins because all the other dozens of factions will have chose one of two sides. Join ISIS or join the Rebels.

Defections are common. AL Nusra defecting to ISIS, FSA defecting to Assad. It does not mean Assad is done for. Assad has considerable amount of support in Syria. Assad can in no way survive for 4 years if he did not have the backing and support of the people and the military. Agreed , currently he seems to be on the backfoot but he still holds Vast amounts of territory and 15,000 could very much be a game changer. The only reason US does not want to support Assad is because it wants to see Syria turned into a Hellhole with Factions fighting each other.


Besides, first encounter b/w Hezbollah and ISIS hasn't gone too well for ISIS after, they were Ambushed at several places...

Defections by one or two people are common. When the Syrian Army meets the FSA they go over in entire units. The core of the FSA is units that defected. They also have no wish to die fighting ISIS for Assad. The get the heck out and wait to defect to the rebels. This is why Assads massive Army never does anything. Assad has lasted as long as he has because when ISIS came along the double teamed the FSA and their Kurdish allies and avoided fighting each other. Once the rebels had been beaten back ISIS turned on the other radical groups and the Assad as well. If ISIS or he rebels did not have to deal with each other Assad would be done. As is he is still going to be done just at a slower rate. In particular when US and Turkish air power are finally brought against Assads forces. Something they avoided to deal with ISIS first. However Assads forces are falling to quickly to ISIS so the rebels are going to divide focus from ISIS and make pushes against both. Can not have ISIS taking all of Assad's equipment. Of course from people who have interviewed Assad as of late he seems completely clueless about what is going on. Claiming they are advancing on every front. The question is has Assad lost it like some think, or is he like Saddam being lied to by his staff.

a reply to: MrSpad
FSA has pretty much dissolved becoming alnusra and isis. Originally FSA was founded by syrian officeers, but it is not true that syrian units have been defecting like you say.
maddy21 is right when he said "Assad can in no way survive for 4 years if he did not have the backing and support of the people and the military." Also, Isis never turned on Assad, they were always against them. They have always been doing Isreals and US's will inSyria and Iraq.

Instead of Isreal complaining about Iran like the Jpost headline reads ( Iran spending billions to back Assad ) , Isreal should be ecstatic, but nooooh, not at all.

originally posted by: samjonesy
a reply to: MrSpad
FSA has pretty much dissolved becoming alnusra and isis. Originally FSA was founded by syrian officeers, but it is not true that syrian units have been defecting like you say.
maddy21 is right when he said "Assad can in no way survive for 4 years if he did not have the backing and support of the people and the military." Also, Isis never turned on Assad, they were always against them. They have always been doing Isreals and US's will inSyria and Iraq.

Instead of Isreal complaining about Iran like the Jpost headline reads ( Iran spending billions to back Assad ) , Isreal should be ecstatic, but nooooh, not at all.

The FSA is still around and fine. In fact they control more territory than Assad. They have been pushing on ISIS in the North along with the Kurds who are part of their coalition. ISIS is putting real pressure on Assad for the first time and it is not going well for Assad. In the south the Israeli backed Druze along with some other miltias are also under heavy pressure from ISIS at the border. While other rebel forces are pushing against Assad to their north and holding back ISIS to the south. And yes ISIS did turn on Assad. The only people ISIS were fighting in Syria at the start were the rebels. Assad saw this and also pushed on the rebels. When the rebels fell back ISIS first hit the other Islamic groups like Al Quida and then turned on Assads forces. Even after that Assad still sees the rebels as the greater threat and when ISIS and the rebels are fighting the Syrian air force will help out by hitting the rebels. For some reason Assad sees ISIS as something he can deal with once the Western backed rebels are defeated. In theory that with no moderate rebels the West will have to choose him over ISIS. It would be a sound tactic if he could defeat the rebels but, all he does has managed to do is hold on to what he has against them. While ISIS keeps taking and getting little push back.

When the new Turkish US trained and backed force moves in, I expect ISIS will back off Assad again to deal with the bigger threat.

I am only just catching up with this thread because I was laid low by a winter bug doing the rounds. Syria is the next Somalia. Factional fighting is going to wipe out the adult population. Before the coming wider war in the Middle East Iran will fill the vacuum as a part of its territorial ambitions in the Middle East. The Assad regime is toast as is Syria and the rest of the Middle East as it appears on your atlas.

originally posted by: MrSpad
Defections by one or two people are common. When the Syrian Army meets the FSA they go over in entire units. The core of the FSA is units that defected. They also have no wish to die fighting ISIS for Assad. The get the heck out and wait to defect to the rebels.

Rebels are as good as dead, one would have to be a fool to defenct to them. They have been effected by infighting. ISIS has them cornered. They will soon be dead buried and gone and most of their fighters will defect probably to Al Nusra or ISIS
You are talking about events which happened 4-5 years ago during the initial revolt.

originally posted by: MrSpad
This is why Assads massive Army never does anything. Assad has lasted as long as he has because when ISIS came along the double teamed the FSA and their Kurdish allies and avoided fighting each other. Once the rebels had been beaten back ISIS turned on the other radical groups and the Assad as well.

Assad has been fighting FSA and Al Nusra for years even before ISIS came into being. He has immense support in the military. People wanted Assad to be replaced by a democracy not Wahabi cult worshiping Sharia law douche bags. Assad has immense support with the minorities. If i pasted you pics of what FSA has done to minorities then i bet you would have sleepless nights...

originally posted by: MrSpad
If ISIS or he rebels did not have to deal with each other Assad would be done. As is he is still going to be done just at a slower rate. In particular when US and Turkish air power are finally brought against Assads forces. Something they avoided to deal with ISIS first.

Assad is done ? Says who ? , he has been fighting ISIS, Rebels , AL Nusra and occasional Israeli Air raids for 5 years. Either you are willingly ignoring his resolve and the resolve of his men or you hate him so much that you are unwilling to see that he has survived an American proxy war for half a decade.

originally posted by: MrSpad
However Assads forces are falling to quickly to ISIS so the rebels are going to divide focus from ISIS and make pushes against both. Can not have ISIS taking all of Assad's equipment. Of course from people who have interviewed Assad as of late he seems completely clueless about what is going on. Claiming they are advancing on every front. The question is has Assad lost it like some think, or is he like Saddam being lied to by his staff.

Its almost like you want Assad to loose, Do you even know or understand what will happen if Assad looses ? What will come in as replacement and what will happen to the minorities in Syria ? Assad is clueless ? Clueless people don't survive for 5 years. Besides he was making considerable gains against FSA and AL Nusra until ISIS entered the field. Infact things were so bad for FSA they were about to fall within the year. Thats when conveniently ISIS came into being and attacked Syria. I am sorry, but it looks like you have not been following the war but takes your info from western media...