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8th Amendment protest in Waco

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posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 11:58 AM
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From what I've read all the dead were shot by police.
So why keep 170 bikers in jail? - to make it look like they were involved?
The ATF was on scene before the bodies even went cold.
No release of videos or any evidence - looks like another Waco whack job courtesy of the Feds.
What is it about Waco? Not very big but sure have the record for killing innocents.




posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Greathouse
Thanks for posting this. I've been reading up on this whole mess over the weekend, and there is much that doesn't add up about it all. Including the judge, who is apparently a justice of the peace, and does not have the authority to impose such a bail and/or jail time. At least according to this attorney:

The Latest on Waco Shooting- A Shocker!


The issue with a $1 million dollar bond was also mind boggling until now. The arrest warrants were issued by a Justice of the Peace, not a judge! A Justice of the Peace has the authority to hear misdemeanor cases if no jail time is sought and civil cases not exceeding $10,000 (small claims courts). The Justice of the Peace that issued the arrest warrants, Walter H. “Pete” Peterson, is a former Public Safety Trooper with no formal legal training; meaning he is not a judge nor an attorney!


There were also rumors that the bikers were offered reduced bail and/or charges dropped in exchange for their silence -- including no lawsuits against the police department -- but I'm not sure if that was true or not. I could never lock it down one way or another, just he said/she said, so take it with a grain of salt.

It's not looking good for the LE agencies on scene. We'll probably have to wait for the ballistic reports will tell the tale.


Thank you for that input. Anybody that has not read this source should lots of information . Your information sent me on a quest on bond hearings. Here's an excerpt from the Texas state constitution it appears they are even in violation of that and not just federal law .




1 The bail shall be sufficiently high to give reasonable assurance that the undertaking will be complied with.
2. The power to require bail is not to be so used as to make it an instrument of oppression.
3. The nature of the offense and the circumstances under which it was committed are to be considered.
4. The ability to make bail is to be regarded, and proof may be taken upon this point.
5. The future safety of a victim of the alleged offense and the community shall be considered.

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posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 12:12 PM
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originally posted by: Legman
a reply to: Greathouse

Adam Valdez of Yoakum, a pipe recovery specialist is a good man.

I agree with ATS masses for once. Keeping that many persons without bail for this long is stomping on the constitution.


There are a lot of good people that were caught up in the mass arrest.

But I'm glad you agree for a change, I saw your reply and was expecting the normal opposition . I even went and got this before I read your reply in preparation . Lol








posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Boadicea

So you're offended that when discussing law I try to use the terms according to the actual legal definitions instead of lay man's definitions.

Got it.

No need to say more.


Yup! That's it!!!

YOU WIN!!! Woo hoo!!!



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 12:48 PM
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a reply to: Greathouse

"'Bikers lives matter' may be a cliche but it's true," he said, referring to the words on a sign taped to the front of his motorcycle. "We're no different."I know I I have a odd sense of humor. But I couldn't help but chuckle at the bold ?


Honestly, that's a legitimate concern. Biker types are frequently harassed as a matter of course. Long hair, tattooes, leathers, the various enormous rings, chains, stomp boots...You know...that makes them BADDIES! -sarcasm- Their type offends the sensibilities of the psychotic, and egocentric personality types that generally go for law enforcement.

It's an anti-anarchy thing, at its heart.

I'm for the bikers (maybe obviously lol). Biker types have always been some of the most trustworthy people that have crossed my path in life.



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: Hushabye

I've been around bikers my entire life. I jokingly called them hippie rednecks . ( because of the way they dress )


They are a great bunch of guys as long as you don't piss them off .



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 01:00 PM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals

This is from the link below your post .



The surveillance video from Twin Peaks has yet to be released to the public, but it was shown to the Associated Press which reported it is clear one shot was fired from one club member to another. This occurred outside, not inside as reported by the Waco Police Department. They were there, not sure how they got that wrong. From there, bikers start running into the restaurant to hide inside, which included the kitchen and the bathroom. There is even footage of bikers waving to patrons of the restaurant to take cover. When the police entered the restaurant, there were already bikers spread eagle on the floor.


The action in bold sums up most of the bikers I know .



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 01:01 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Thanks very much! I'll be signing autographs in the beer booth later on, be sure to stop by!



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: Greathouse
a reply to: Hushabye

I've been around bikers my entire life. I jokingly called them hippie rednecks . ( because of the way they dress )


They are a great bunch of guys as long as you don't piss them off .


you do realize these are not your average "bikers"...they are in "biker gangs" that murder, run drugs, and commit felonies...it's well documented about the who, what, where, and how, these "biker gangs" operate, that come from many parts of the country.



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: Greathouse

The ACLU will be right there!

(after they finish terrorising a town for having a bible out in the open)



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: jimmyx

The bikers I'm talking about were iron Horsemen, seven sons, outlaws, highway men and even pagans . I ask one what club life was like he was a pagan mind you . He told me that if he told me the things he'd done I never speak to him again . I like the guy so I said don't tell me .


The same man babysat my children .

So yeah I know what bikers are like .
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posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 01:15 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

Lol

Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would come for African-Americans .

Who's going to come for the bikers Jesse Ventura and David Duke ?



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: Greathouse

Thank you for that input. Anybody that has not read this source should lots of information . Your information sent me on a quest on bond hearings. Here's an excerpt from the Texas state constitution it appears they are even in violation of that and not just federal law .


You're welcome -- glad to add to the discussion.... although not all appreciate my contribution!



1 The bail shall be sufficiently high to give reasonable assurance that the undertaking will be complied with.
2. The power to require bail is not to be so used as to make it an instrument of oppression.
3. The nature of the offense and the circumstances under which it was committed are to be considered.
4. The ability to make bail is to be regarded, and proof may be taken upon this point.
5. The future safety of a victim of the alleged offense and the community shall be considered.


source


Hmmm... curiouser and curiouser... It shall be interesting to see how this plays out.
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posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 01:24 PM
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a reply to: Greathouse

The police wouldn't be "profiling" these individuals. . . . . . would they?



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 01:31 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

I did not think of that. But it sure looks that way, add another civil rights charge to the list .



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 01:31 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Boadicea

Thanks very much! I'll be signing autographs in the beer booth later on, be sure to stop by!


Beer? Yuk!

If you're offering shots of tequila though, I'll be there with bells on!



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 01:44 PM
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a reply to: Greathouse

No, it isn't and that this is in Texas ought to disturb more Texans. And compare this to other places, where rioters are allowed to loot and whatever, with apparent impunity, and it's even more wrong.



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: beezzer

[sarcasm]Oh, God, no...

What are you thinking? We know all bikers are evil.

[/sarcasm]



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: seagull

There is definitely more to this story than we are being told! I wonder how many who died were actually shot by the cops, too. Haven't seen any info on that yet.



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 01:51 PM
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originally posted by: tothetenthpower
a reply to: LadyGreenEyes

They are probably trying to establish a RICO Case. Which is why they are taking their sweet time. Trying to get everything together so they can charge them all with the same felonies.

~Tenth


Possible. Massive property seizure would be some serious motivation. That they can take so much time is a real problem, though!



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