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Saudi Arabia 'seeking to head United Nations Human Rights Council'

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posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:03 PM
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a reply to: seagull

That's a precise assessment!




posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:04 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: grandmakdw

I don't believe he was advocating for the House of Saud. He was pointing out the sorry fact that no nation, and I can't think of one either, is exactly lily white in regards to its human rights records.



You are right no nation is perfect

However, Saudi actually holds the nomination in my book
for the most institutional and legal human rights violations
among nearly all countries



posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:06 PM
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a reply to: grandmakdw

If not them, then North Korea, surely?



posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: grandmakdw

If not them, then North Korea, surely?


Yes a second close,
but Saudi still wins with their institutional treatment of women
and let's not forget legal human trafficking (it's really not slavery, hahahahahahah)



posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:13 PM
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a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Canada, "my home and native land," doesn't fair well. Yet, we seem to be far better at it than Saudia Arabia and a few other nations. I still lean towards Norway and Finland for the job.

Canada Human Rights Watch

www.hrw.org...

Yet, we are honest about our misdeeds. The big news this past week here in Canada was this:

Truth and reconciliation: Looking back on a landmark week for Canada


Over six years the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) collected 6,740 statements from witnesses and recorded 1,355 hours of testimony. It all culminated in 94 recommendations presented in Ottawa this last week amidst four days of events and ceremonies attended by thousands.

The commission was a requirement of the Indian Residential Schools Settlement Agreement reached in 2007, the largest class action settlement in Canadian history.

In its report, the TRC writes about the ongoing effects of colonialism, the "policies of cultural genocide and assimilation" and the huge rift this has caused between aboriginal and non-aboriginal people.

"It took a long time for that damage to have been done and for the relationship we see to have been created, and it will take us a long time to fix it."

"But the process has already begun," the commission adds.

That process was in motion on Sunday, May 31, when an estimated 7,000 to 10,000 people walked through downtown Ottawa-Gatineau in an effort to "transform and renew" the relationship between Aboriginal Peoples and other Canadians.


www.cbc.ca...



posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:15 PM
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Heh, just in from the wires:




Saudi Arabia's supreme court has upheld a sentence of 10 years in jail and 1,000 lashes against blogger Raif Badawi on charges of insulting Islam, his wife said on Sunday. The judgement came despite worldwide outrage over his case and criticism from the United Nations, United States, the European Union, Canada and others. "This is a final decision that is irrevocable," Ensaf Haidar told AFP



Need I say more?



posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: grandmakdw

But, Ameeeerriiiiiiccccaaaa! *stomps feet*


Only a 1,000?
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posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:20 PM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: grandmakdw

But, Ameeeerriiiiiiccccaaaa! *stomps feet*


Only a 1,000?


You have a point

there were quite a few public people in the US who
said mean things about Caitlyn Jenner

far worse than throwing her off a bridge or beheading don't you think?


And really, we are so cruel as to let people blog and say
bad things about their own and others religion,
well we should look to the Saudi's for correct and moral treatment
of "those people" don't you think?



posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: grandmakdw

You're comparing the US HR record with SA's? That's not setting a very high bar.



posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:25 PM
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a reply to: Involutionist

The only way this makes sense is like "The war on terror and "the war on drugs" and "the war on poverty" So , we know that the word "on" should be "of" in order to match the results we see on the ground . Is it possible that these den of vipers in SA are going to take their version of human right's to the rest of the world ? the new up is down and black is white of the 21st century I guess



posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:34 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid
a reply to: grandmakdw

You're comparing the US HR record with SA's? That's not setting a very high bar.



I acquiesce,
haven't you been reading all the immoral things I have admitted going on in the US?

We are sooooo evil compared to
the compassionate
and human rights loving Saudi's.

Maybe we should straighten up and follow their lead on human rights:
and reinstitute slavery - oops - human trafficking
and take away womens right to vote - heck what do women know
and when a LGBT wants a cake, just behead them for asking
and have pay scales based on race

I'm not saying the US is perfect, far from it,
but let's go toe to toe if you want on
Saudi vs US human rights

Got any ways you can support that you actually think Saudi has better human rights than the US?
So that they should be the human rights role model for the world?

I'm certainly not claiming the US is perfect,
but I am claiming that US human rights are
far far more advanced and compassionate
than Saudi human rights.

I have lived all over the world in my life, Asia, Europe, all over the US.
Well, I never lived in Africa. (my father and husband were military).

There is absolutely no perfect country,
even the ones mentioned are really
pretty racist; Europe and Europeans are
as racist as the US, just not necessarily
against blacks, but other nationalities.
Which doesn't count as far as many in the
US are concerned.

Who has the best human rights?

Faulty and flawed and as imperfect as we are,
the US has a good overall record.

Sweden too, but they are basically mostly
all all white country, so that nixes them
as far as most people who champion human
rights are concerned.

Actually, the Dutch, Netherlands, are good
except for their stance on euthanasia which
has morphed into some "compassionate
euthanasia" of those who can not speak for
themselves, or as a cure for depression.
If I had to choose a country, it would probably be the
Netherlands, but their problems with euthanasia
still make me squeamish- oh shoot, they are out
too, mostly white people.

White people as we all know are absolutely the
worst human rights violators.


edit on 4Sun, 07 Jun 2015 16:37:05 -0500pm60706pmk070 by grandmakdw because: format



posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:40 PM
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a reply to: seagull

True but I don't think appointing a nation with some of the worst 'violations' is going to do anything to make it better. If it helps to take some of the bite out of my words... I don't think the US deserves that position either.
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posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:46 PM
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a reply to: grandmakdw

You do realise whoever is given this position is at the forefront of the World's human rights...

This isn't just about how our nations treat their own people but others around the world too...

Now, what happened to human rights in Afghanistan & Iraq?
What happened to human rights every time the U.S. vetoed a resolution that would hold Israel accountable for their crimes?

Sorry, but the U.S. is equally as bad as Saudi's overall and that's why they're an ally!

The UK...
We did the same...
& yes we may have much more freedom as civilians of Britain...
That doesn't matter to poor little Iraqi children in Fallujah who our nations bombed with depleted uranium and left as a carcinogenic hellhole.


Sad fact is that while our nations Law of the Land may well be much better than Saudi's...

Our HR record outside our borders is absolutely the most deplorable on the Planet.







Hey everybody, we can liberate you... With anal feeding in a 4x8 cell while we blast "f# your God" through some high powered speakers...


I could do China, Russia, DPRK etc...



But like I said, their HR records are bad within their borders...

Ours ain't, so the appearance of "best of a bad situation" is indoctrinated into us and our compatriots by our dear leaders who would have us sodomised with a feeding tube if we weren't born here.



/end rant
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posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:51 PM
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I put forth Iceland. Any gov't that jails bankers for screwing the citizens sounds like they get "human rights".



posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:52 PM
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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: seagull

True but I don't think appointing a nation with some of the worst 'violations' is going to do anything to make it better. If it helps to take some of the bite out of my words... I don't think the US deserves that position either.


Having lived all over the world,
there really is no country that deserves that position.
All countries have their racism problems, and unique flaws and unique human right violations.

I do agree that a nation with as egregious human rights violations as Saudi certainly should not be allowed to head the humans rights collation at the UN.

The countries that have the best record are predominately white countries, and because of that fact alone, most people would not accept them because most people believe that white people are inherently human rights violators due to the color of their skin.

So there is no perfect country to choose,
but at the very least one should be chosen
that allows women to vote
that will not tolerate human trafficking (slavery)
that does not have laws that condemn LGBT to death for their sexuality
that does allow freedom of speech in all matters
that does allow freedom of artistic expression
that does allow freedom of religion
that allows women equal rights with men
that enforces equal pay regardless of race or gender
that enforces equal treatment in the work place or in education, regardless of race or gender

Ideally: without racism, but sorry I have never been to a country without racism, never, ever.

So now it is up to you all,
which country fits the bill?
I would say NOT Saudi Arabia



posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:54 PM
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originally posted by: intrepid
I put forth Iceland. Any gov't that jails bankers for screwing the citizens sounds like they get "human rights".


Sorry,
most people in Iceland are white. 93% are descendants of Norwegian settlers and Celts from Ireland and Scotland.

They have little to no experience with racial issues.

They have little to no racism because they are mono-cultural.
Meaning they have no experience with multi-culturalism and they
can not understand others cultures and their problems.


edit on 4Sun, 07 Jun 2015 16:55:56 -0500pm60706pmk070 by grandmakdw because: addition



posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: grandmakdw

As of 2015, there isn't a Nation on the Planet that deserves such a position, imo.



posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:59 PM
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originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: grandmakdw

As of 2015, there isn't a Nation on the Planet that deserves such a position, imo.


I think I said that earlier,
but there are definitely some who
absolutely
positively
DO NOT deserve the position
and would make a travesty and
laughing stock of the UN if they
were in such a position!

And Saudi is one,
as well as N. Korea



posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:59 PM
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originally posted by: grandmakdw

originally posted by: intrepid
I put forth Iceland. Any gov't that jails bankers for screwing the citizens sounds like they get "human rights".


Sorry,
most people in Iceland are white. 93% are descendants of Norwegian settlers and Celts from Ireland and Scotland.

They have little to no experience with racial issues.

They have little to no racism because they are mono-cultural.
Meaning they have no experience with multi-culturalism and they
can not understand others cultures and their problems.



How do you explain that the current president is German then?



posted on Jun, 7 2015 @ 04:59 PM
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I say get rid of the UN and everyone minds their own damned business.

Bunch of preachy bastards everywhere.



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