Wisconsin Republicans' bill to eliminate day of rest from the work week

a reply to: xuenchen

You and others always defend the indefensible based on your emotional hatred of “liberals”


The details of how the ridiculous, inhuman, GOP want to torture people in the name of their elite masters I’m tired of debating


You quibble over it


People’s moral and ethical blindness are their problem

a reply to: seeker1963

Issues do matter even in the face of a duality that produces stagnation.



The lady who died last year because she couldn’t get medicine from a system that didn’t give her affordable health care is pertinent to her life


You could argue over imperfection and theory all you want but when human beings are suffering because of certain basic issues and can be stopped somewhat when democrats give half way decent solutions and the GOP GIVE NO SOLUTIONS, issues matter.

a reply to: dukeofjive696969

Here's the whole text I think....

compare this to the OP article and comments...

.don't be shy mr d.

2015 Assembly BILL 118

March 27, 2015 - Introduced by Representatives Born, Ballweg, E. Brooks, Czaja,
Edming, Kleefisch, Knodl, Kremer, Kulp, Murphy, A. Ott, Quinn and
Rohrkaste, cosponsored by Senators Wanggaard and LeMahieu. Referred to
Committee on Labor.


An Act to create 103.85 (2) (g) of the statutes; relating to: permitting an
employee to voluntarily choose to work without one day of rest in seven.


Analysis by the Legislative Reference Bureau
Under current law, an employer that owns a factory or mercantile
establishment, subject to certain exceptions, must allow every person employed in
the establishment to take at least 24 consecutive hours of rest in every seven
consecutive days (one day of rest in seven). This bill permits an employee to
voluntarily choose to work without one day of rest in seven.


The people of the state of Wisconsin, represented in senate and assembly, do
enact as follows:

Section 1. 103.85 (2) (g) of the statutes is created to read:
103.85 (2) (g) An employee who states in writing that he or she voluntarily
chooses to work without at least 24 consecutive hours of rest in 7 consecutive days.

Section 2. Nonstatutory provisions.
(1) One day of rest in 7. This act first applies to an employee who is covered
under a collective bargaining agreement that contains provisions inconsistent with
this act on the day on which the collective bargaining agreement expires or is
extended, modified, or renewed, whichever occurs first.
(End)

a reply to: Willtell

Looks like you have really gone off the deep end with this simple issue.

Sorry to see it affects some people in such crazy ways.

And of course I haven't endorsed or supported the idea to begin with. I'm not for it or against it.

a reply to: Willtell

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: Willtell

Looks like you have really gone off the deep end with this simple issue.

Sorry to see it affects some people in such crazy ways.

Off the deep end
and wildly off topic.

Willtell's posts demonstrate his deep emotional hatred of "conservatives" ie GOP,
seems those who scream the loudest
about anothers emotional flaws
have the same flaws and perhaps much much deeper and more visceral.

Wow!

My posts at least while off the deep end
and wildly sarcastic and tongue in cheek
are on topic.


Guess this one is off topic, Oh well, another post removal and scolding is coming my way!

a reply to: xuenchen

Gone off the deep end to treat human beings human?

Okay


Be glad to be guilty of that

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: xuenchen

Gone off the deep end to treat human beings human?

Okay


Be glad to be guilty of that

where is this legislation mis-treating humans?

proof is vital now.

you seem to be stabbing at shadows.

a reply to: xuenchen

No just shadow boxing

There's a difference

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: dukeofjive696969

Here's the whole text I think....

compare this to the OP article and comments...

.don't be shy mr d.

2015 Assembly BILL 118

March 27, 2015 - Introduced by Representatives Born, Ballweg, E. Brooks, Czaja,
Edming, Kleefisch, Knodl, Kremer, Kulp, Murphy, A. Ott, Quinn and
Rohrkaste, cosponsored by Senators Wanggaard and LeMahieu. Referred to
Committee on Labor.


An Act to create 103.85 (2) (g) of the statutes; relating to: permitting an
employee to voluntarily choose to work without one day of rest in seven.


Analysis by the Legislative Reference Bureau
Under current law, an employer that owns a factory or mercantile
establishment, subject to certain exceptions, must allow every person employed in
the establishment to take at least 24 consecutive hours of rest in every seven
consecutive days (one day of rest in seven). This bill permits an employee to
voluntarily choose to work without one day of rest in seven.


The people of the state of Wisconsin, represented in senate and assembly, do
enact as follows:

Section 1. 103.85 (2) (g) of the statutes is created to read:
103.85 (2) (g) An employee who states in writing that he or she voluntarily
chooses to work without at least 24 consecutive hours of rest in 7 consecutive days.

Section 2. Nonstatutory provisions.
(1) One day of rest in 7. This act first applies to an employee who is covered
under a collective bargaining agreement that contains provisions inconsistent with
this act on the day on which the collective bargaining agreement expires or is
extended, modified, or renewed, whichever occurs first.
(End)

So the thread should go to the hoax bin then?

Hey, here's an idea, if you don't like your job, want to make more money, and work less hours, get a new job?

If you have no marketable skills don't complain about having a terrible job.

I'm just trying to get my head around a cabal of evil people kidnapping innocent people, making them work 97 hours a day for years on end with no breaks, until the poor wretches die in a miserable heap, only to be swept away like so much dross.

*sob*

a reply to: xuenchen

I wonder if the "productivity" increases are due to more efficient work methods assisted by automation operated by people. Or includes professions.

Your link is only to the chart graph and doesn't show anything else.

Very misleading.

Or maybe you're missing the point I was attempting to make and you're accusing me of being misleading because you didn't really mull over what I said before you rushed in to score partisan political points? I didn't offer an opinion about how much automation has played into the decoupling of productive output from real wages. The graph shows "cumulative growth in productivity per hour worked of the total economy (inclusive of the private sector, government, and nonprofit sector)" (TPM graph recreated from EPI - The wedges between productivity and median compensation growth). Automation has clearly been a big factor (and not exclusively in manufacturing) and that really goes to my point about how the people in power are debating outmoded solutions instead of addressing the underlying factors affecting employment.

I'll summarize the state of affairs since 1973, please feel free to point out where I'm wrong.

1. Productivity has gone up more than 80%.
2. Inflation-adjusted median hourly compensation has gone up about 10%.
3. The top .01% (executives mostly) have seen more than a 900% increase (inflation-adjusted) (EPI source) in compensation.

Without spending a lot more time on this post than I want to (I know the CBO has data current as of 2011), here's a graph illustrating the change in the share of after tax (and transfer) income (meaning it includes money paid out from Federal taxes as income) best fitting within this time frame:



If anything, the trend has not only continued but worsened. The pie has been getting bigger and most people have been an increasingly smaller slice of the pie year after year.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Well that's a little better.

Now people can look over something more than your opinion.

originally posted by: Pants3204
Hey, here's an idea, if you don't like your job, want to make more money, and work less hours, get a new job?

If you have no marketable skills don't complain about having a terrible job.

Did it ever occur to you that at any moment, there are a finite number of "good jobs" to be had and that if everyone followed your sage advice, the effective change would be no change at all?

Good advice for an individual perhaps but not really a solution that scales to societal levels.

Hell I am just waiting til the christian/GOP haters start unionizing robots on assembly lines, and computers that do most of the work for people these days.

Then start threads about robots, and computers needing sundays off, and make them evil corporations pay them a 'living' wage.

Oh my glorious days await 'Merikans.

a reply to: theantediluvian

The size of the slice as a percentage of the whole may have decreased, but I think you will find that the size of the pie as a whole has increased dramatically.

Also, what amount of increase in productivity can be attributed to greater financial efficiencies, automation, and aspects unrelated to the actual employees themselves?

No…they want the whole hog


Every fiber of your being to work…work…work
Until your DEAD


The GOP is the chosen bad cop

Because it’s their nature

a reply to: Willtell

You realize no one is forcing you to work right? Let alone enter into the indentured servitude you're ranting about?

Your comments read like a satire.

originally posted by: Willtell
No…they want the whole hog

Every fiber of your being to work…work…work
Until your DEAD

The GOP is the chosen bad cop

Because it’s their nature

I am interested in how these comments relate to the bill subject.

The psychology is amazing.

Aren't you even a little bit concerned about how people will see your thinking and attempts at deflection?

originally posted by: theantediluvian

originally posted by: Pants3204
Hey, here's an idea, if you don't like your job, want to make more money, and work less hours, get a new job?

If you have no marketable skills don't complain about having a terrible job.

Did it ever occur to you that at any moment, there are a finite number of "good jobs" to be had and that if everyone followed your sage advice, the effective change would be no change at all?

Good advice for an individual perhaps but not really a solution that scales to societal levels.

Thats what actually happened in Germany to some degree. Germans were good kids didnt burn jews went to school and for the most part got good grades. Overqualified this and that and engineers pay kept dropping. I guess the entry pay now for an engineer from one of the most renowned universities on the face of the earth is about 40k$, before taxes. And Germans tax you good (granted the autobahn isnt pothole galore). Doctors lament the pay situation as well. Of course at least the Germans can leave for greener pastures to someplace where you have to have the money for a good education and the supply is more limited.