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The EINSTEIN System didn't work!!!

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posted on Jun, 5 2015 @ 06:29 AM
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Well here it is admission by DHS that their EINSTEIN SYSTEM (v.3) didn't work. Didn't talk a rocket scientist to figure that out (pun intended) just a few billion Chinese (speculation).

US believes China behind cybersecurity breach affecting at least 4M federal employees

"DHS said its intrusion detection system, known as EINSTEIN, which screens federal Internet traffic to identify potential cyber threats, identified the hack of OPM's systems and the Interior Department's data center, which is shared by other federal agencies.

It was unclear why the EINSTEIN system didn't detect the breach until after so many records had been copied and removed."

Soooo a day late and a dollar short? The system identified the hack but only after files were "copied or removed."

www.foxnews.com...

edit on 5/6/2015 by bkfd54 because: Added quote from article




posted on Jun, 5 2015 @ 06:54 AM
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a reply to: bkfd54

Einstein was not a rocket scientist, just FYI.


It does however seem, that the gate was bolted well after the horse had made its escape on this occasion, and considering the money spent on cyber security, one has to wonder what the money got spent on exactly.



posted on Jun, 5 2015 @ 07:03 AM
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a reply to: bkfd54

They can spend enormous amounts on things sometimes! Often times the cost outweighs the benefits (if any). You would think that since the internet basically originated in the USA, that they would have better control on the access of data. Sounds like its too late! I wonder what all they got out of this hack? Among all of the others....



posted on Jun, 5 2015 @ 07:05 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

Ok poor pun, well not even a pun then. I'm sure he was in the company of at a time or two. Ty.

Perhaps this is part of the 8.5 trillion that has disappeared from the U.S. budget? Embarrassing truly embarrassing to say the least.

Thanks again for the calibration



posted on Jun, 5 2015 @ 07:15 AM
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I'd say the 8.5 billion is more than likely in the pockets of Congresspersons and their favorite lobbyists/donors/Corporate sponsors.

As for the hack? Any cybersecurity expert will tell you that the prevention is always one step behind the innovation. Almost all cybersecurity is reactive. Proactive measures don't really work well because as soon as you create them, others begin finding the holes and force you into a reactive mode.

China has an unbelievable cyber army but, even if we do owe them more money than exists, they are playing with fire. The "Great Firewall" might protect them from porn and anything about their real history - but it also makes for a nifty sandbox that anyone could pretty safely drop a cyber bomb into. This is something they are aware of and trying to fix by clamoring for a 100% proprietary, closed source China specific O/S... but they simply do not have one yet. Most of their military is using Ubuntu Kylin or Windows.



posted on Jun, 5 2015 @ 07:18 AM
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a reply to: InFriNiTee

That's just it...the Internet has been in use, govt use, since the 60s with ARPA. You'd think we'd have it down by now.



posted on Jun, 5 2015 @ 07:30 AM
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One of the big problems with cyber security is that computing is moving faster than society.

here in the US, most security experts are salaried employees trying to balance a work life and a home life- TRYING to keep it under 50 hours a week.
The hackers aren't exactly known for having well balanced lives- especially over in China, where children are stuck into a role and expected to become the best. They have way more time to spend finding holes than the "experts" have time for plugging them.
Let alone getting ahead of the game.



posted on Jun, 5 2015 @ 07:48 AM
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a reply to: bkfd54

On the matter of the 8.5trillion, I would not be at all surprised, not in the least.

As for Einstein, he is sometimes mentioned in the same scholarly articles as Werner Von Braun, normally because both scientists were migrants from Germany and were operating at the same time in history, in their various fields. However the link is the history of migrant science in America, rather than in terms of the work they were doing themselves. Interestingly, Von Braun was a member of both the Nazi Party, and the SS as far as I know, and Einstein, being Jewish, simply never went home from his holiday in the States when the Nazis took over in Germany, taking citizenship in the US in 1940, if I recall correctly. So not only were the two chaps in different fields, but they would have made for what one could only describe as a seriously antagonistic partnership, had they ever been applied to the same problem!



posted on Jun, 5 2015 @ 08:04 AM
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It was unclear why the EINSTEIN system didn't detect the breach until after so many records had been copied and removed."

Maybe somebody didn't want that breach detected until after those records had been copied.



posted on Jun, 5 2015 @ 08:21 AM
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This is one of the generally accepted method of getting Congress to hand over more money and power.

ISIS is being allowed to use tweets despite being enemy #1 for the month. It's all a game.



posted on Jun, 5 2015 @ 09:20 AM
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a reply to: lordcomac

I would also posit that our (US) bandwidth is being stymied complicating the matter primarily due to capitalism. Overseas, access to the Internet, not limitless, is certainly a lot more open as fats as bytes and bits.



posted on Jun, 5 2015 @ 09:33 AM
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Einstein was a theoretical physicist and mathematician.



posted on Jun, 5 2015 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: damwel

The crux of this post is about the deficiencies of our govt demonstrated by the inability to stop the hack. Not on Einstein the person. Thanks for taking it off the rails.



posted on Jun, 5 2015 @ 11:58 AM
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You mean that smart guy Alfred Epstein? Have You seen My avatar? How is this done? That model of guitar hasn't been released yet???


If the #s are in the trillion$$ then that means another 15 years in Afghanistan to grow more opium for too many opiate based pain meds from Big PHarma™..



posted on Jun, 8 2015 @ 04:01 AM
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a reply to: Hefficide

I would be surprised if they ever get their OS. As soon as it's developed, it will be stolen and everyone will be able to work with it and develop exploits. By trying to go it alone all they'll really do is be cut off from any possible security support the rest of the world may develop.



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