Apocalyptic Revelations...

a reply to: Rex282

I am positive someone will write a post after this one speculating the "mysteries of the universe through religion while quoting Professor Knownothings..

Act only according to that maxim by which you can at the same time will that it should become a universal law.

—Immanuel Kant, Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals (1785)

My paraphrase: Live your life as if you were the one setting the standard for high moral behavior.

I will get to your other questions tomorrow after I sleep on it and check some references.

originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: Rex282

This is a good thread. It answers questions that I asked and points to areas for inquiry.

Stop deriding the OP!

your atheist card is officially revoked....

a reply to: Rex282

Are you saying Kaikhosrov D. Iraniwas says that or Einstein because it is a VERY well known quote of Einsteins( I paraphrased it) and he never made a retraction Ive seen and the majority of quantum physicist say essentially the same thing.

I was referring to Dr. Irani.
Starting at 25:00 he addresses the issue, later on the interviewer pins him down further. Rather than watch the interview all over again by myself, I invite you to watch the interview yourself.

I know for a fact that anything I need to know willbe given to me when and how I need it and not a nano second before or after....

Yesterday, I was thinking about stealing a goddess, no one would even know, I could have totally gotten away with it. But while I was contemplating it, I was also reading up on Zoroastrian Ethics, and Aristotle's Ethics, and while watching the youtube interview I remembered that a few years ago, an ATS member explained Kantian Ethics in an easily understandable way.

The more I thought about Ethics given away freely by these people as opposed to stealing a goddess, I realized that stealing would be less than good. So in the nick of time I avoided the crime.

your atheist card is officially revoked....

I'm turning in my Epicurean Ethics card too. I violated those quite often.

a reply to: Rex282

I am confused, do you believe in God or not?

Apocalyptic Revelations dont necessarily, or dont likely, have anything to do with God, and it is precisely this reason why religion in general, and these topics are important.

a reply to: Kantzveldt

Back to the coronation relief: investiture of Khosrow II (r. 590 to 628). sanctifying the investiture, stands a female figure generally assumed to be Anahita.

Doesn't this show that Tutelary deities persisted within Zoroastrianism even into that late of a period?

Plus, I thought of a theory:

Suppose that Judean writers became aware of Zarathustra and created their David character as their own version, even placing him back into their history to coincide with c1000 bce. And suppose that gives "Son of David" a whole new meaning.

a reply to: pthena


Anahita certainly persisted, in many ways Ahura Mazda and Anahita could perhaps be seen as related to Anu and Inanna of Uruk
in a later form, high Celestial Deities, she did have that fertility aspect.

A Ardvi Sura Anahita, the wide-expanding and health-giving, who hates the Daevas and obeys the laws of Ahura, who is worthy of sacrifice in the material world, worthy of prayer in the material world; the life-increasing and holy, the herd-increasing and holy, the fold-increasing and holy, the wealth-increasing and holy, the country-increasing and holy;

'Who makes the seed of all males pure, who makes the womb of all females pure for bringing forth, who makes all females bring forth in safety, who puts milk into the breasts of all females in the right measure and the right quality;

Hymn to the waters

GodElectric.org..If you want a true Apocalypse then make sure you check this link out!

Ἀποκάλυψις is the Greek term for Apocalypse which means an 'unveiling of hidden knowledge'.

If you want a true apocalypse then make sure you read this website: GodElectric.org

originally posted by: ImaFungi
a reply to: Rex282

I am confused, do you believe in God or not?

Apocalyptic Revelations dont necessarily, or dont likely, have anything to do with God, and it is precisely this reason why religion in general, and these topics are important.

I do not believe in a God of ANY Belief System religion.Those God’s are not the true creator God.

I’ve said this numerous times on this thread.The word apocalypse means an unveiling/uncovering.The modern meaning of that word is an extrapolation from religion which is ALL 100% false so it is impossible for there to be ANY unveiling through ANY form of religious belief.

My point is it doesn’t matter one bit what anyone believes an apocalypse is ….none of it is true.It is 100% religious rhetoric.People can quote from ancient books from here to eternity and it will still be untrue.

The fact is mans nature is religious.Everything man does and believes is forged on the foundation stone of “their” Belief System” religion.I understand why many people believe this religious nonsense it is their nature and character(name) to do so.I am not condemning anyone I am merely deny the ignorance of it.

I am not trolling or ranting.My points are all based in reason.If the foundation of a belief is made of sand it is meaningless.The words of religious rhetoric are so easily debunked to only be agendas a child could see through it.The purpose of mans existence is to live and to KNOW truth not “believe” religion.

a reply to: Rex282

You make very contradictory statements, which is why I was confused.

Even there you say; apocalypse only means unveiling

Then you say; apocalypse cannot happen

So you believe that unveiling cannot happen?

originally posted by: ImaFungi
a reply to: Rex282

You make very contradictory statements, which is why I was confused.

Even there you say; apocalypse only means unveiling

Then you say; apocalypse cannot happen

So you believe that unveiling cannot happen?

Here it is in my own words in the post just above yours

........ it is impossible for there to be ANY unveiling through ANY form of religious belief.

apocalypse =unveiling,uncovering,revelation....

I am simply stating apocalypse in the context of the Greek word means a revealing of some sort.Not a prediction or prophecy of past present or future historical events and it certainly does not mean catastrophic events which is the modern meaning that is extrapolated from religious texts.

The unveiling in context to what John wrote in what is called the book of Revelation is the unveiling of Yahoshua ....which means Yahweh(the creator God) is deliverance/salvation)......christos...christ....mashiach..which means anointing...the anointing was a symbolic imbuing of a power in this case the power of the creator God.

In a nutshell::...The unveiling of the creator Gods power by deliverance.

Not some mystical religious "apocalypse of an angry God taking vengeance on the creatures and creation they created or ANY other religious or secular connotations.That is their meaning of the book of Revelation "apocalypse.The Christian meaning is extrapolated from many sources of other religious doom porn.

a reply to: Kantzveldt
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