The peace of God to all that belong to the Light,
We all know from the news that Ireland is right now the first country in the world that for popular vote, in free elections, has decided to declare
not only legal but constitutional the same gender Marriage.
n Ireland 2015
Well, the reactions didn't wait along the world, especially concerning the Catholicism, but let me point that in contrast with the extremely cautious
and diplomatic way the High Hierarchy of the Catholic Church in Ireland, for instance the Dublin Archbishop Diarmuid Martin, that has neither
condemned or approved the political move of the country, there are others around the world that have disapproved or even attacking it.
We have for instance the reaction of Cardinal Pietro Parolin, State Secretary of the Vatican, who expressed sorrow for the decision, that he believe
is against the law of God, but was extremely prudential in to don't condemn Ireland as a nation for it.
Now, we have the Champion of the conservatism in the American Catholic Hierarchy, the Cardinal deacon of Sant'Agata dei Goti, His eminence Raymond
Leo Burke, that has show no doubt in his mind to condemn with the strongest statements the Irish decision.
Cardinal Raymond Burke has called the Irish people pagans, people against God, and even he has qualified the same gender marriage as Homicide,
spiritual one of course.
Gays and remarried Catholics are Murderers - Cardinal Burke
This attitude is contrasting, as I have already mentioned with the attitude of for example the Synod of Bishops on the family, the presidents of the
bishops' conferences of Germany, Switzerland and France that have decided to dedicate their work of the incoming fall to analyze the statements of
Dublin Archbishop Diarmuid Martin, who said that overwhelming support for marriage equality in Ireland a "reality check" for the church and a kind of
social revolution around the world.
Now, His Holiness the Pope Francis I has been extremely cautious to express an open condemn of homosexuals in his few public declarations about the
Of course the thread is open to the free open discussion of the topic, with the obvious limitations of the decorum and mutual respect on the posts.
Now, before to start it let me formulate some key questions that I found interesting to evaluate concerning the topic of the Same gender union:
1) What it was approved in Ireland and it is in process of approval on other countries is Same gender Marriage or is it Gay, Bisexual or Lesbian
2) Is the law talking about sexual duties in this kind of union? or it is extremely vague in its definition and even open the space for asexual
cohabitation in between Partners? Is the law in general just talking about free will or love in between partners?
3) Is the prohibition of Leviticus, traditionally used by conservatives to condemn Homosexuality, against exclusively to sodomy , against ritual
prostitution ? or against any kind of affection or love that can emerge in between people of the same gender? what is sexuality? it is just coital
acts, intercourse in between two people, or any kind of physical expressions of love, like kissing or touching others body?
Pls read: www.mountainviewchapel.com...
4) Is all the people really called by God to enter in the traditional definition of marriage or not? if it is not the case what rights have the
people that can't go in to that kind of Marriage? their only right is to live the rest of their lives in solitude or enter in a monastic order?
5) are the homosexuals already condemned to hell even if there is scientific evidence that they have a natural attraction for the same gender? what
is the meaning of the following words of Jesus:
St Matthey 19, 10 The disciples said to Him, "If the relationship of the man with his wife is like this, it is better not to marry." 11But He
said to them, "Not all men can accept this statement, but only those to whom it has been given. 12"For there are eunuchs who were born that way from
their mother's womb; and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men; and there are also eunuchs who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the
kingdom of heaven. He who is able to accept this, let him accept it."
6) What happened with a minority in the diversity spectrum that usually few people talk about, the so called asexuals , people that is not naturally
sexually attracted by anybody? what happened if some of them accept the same gender marriage as a way to look of companion of somebody, in terms
that are strictly of affection?
Pls read: www.wikihow.com...
7) what is Adelphopoiesis? A kind of brotherhood or same gender union sealed by a blessing that was practiced by the Catholic church until the XIV
century and also by the Eastern Orthodox church until the XVIII century. Is this the answer of religion to the people that are in search of same
gender socially and religiously accepted bond?
8) What if the wave of same gender unions is a natural response in sexual or affective behavior to the human overpopulation of the planet? can the
earth continue supporting a population growing at the rates of the XX century? what could happen if we continue the trend of 1 billion at 1800, 2
Billion at 1920s, 3 billion at 1960, 4 billion at middle 1970s, 5 billion at end of 1980s, 6 billion at the change of millennium and more than 7
billon right now? is the demographic growing correlated with increase in frequency of broken marriages and families, abandoned children, grave
recessions, violence, criminality and wars everywhere?
Pls read en.wikipedia.org...
As a initiator of this thread I call for moderation in the replies and try to find the truth in this subject more than to start personal attacks or
arguing, This is a thread for serious or scholar discussion on the topic more than to assume judgmental positions that in my opinion correspond only
to God decide to assume or not. I am going to remain neutral among the different thesis in debate and with a lot of open mind.
Thanks for your attention,
The Angel of Ligthness
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