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Wage Required to Afford a 2-Bedroom Rental in Every State

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posted on May, 30 2015 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Where does every dollar of your union dues go toward?




posted on May, 30 2015 @ 05:12 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I'm not sure which of my posts you responded to here.

Are you saying you are presently unemployed yet hold an advanced degree? I ask as clarification as I don't want to misunderstand your post.



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 05:14 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

What do you feel is the difference between a job and a career?



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 06:03 PM
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a reply to: Ultralight

Are you saying you are presently unemployed yet hold an advanced degree? I ask as clarification as I don't want to misunderstand your post.

That is what I said.
You understood it correctly.

I don't feel it necessary to give you any more details than that. Unless, of course, you are the POTUS, or someone else who can help me.
I'm humiliated enough as it is.
edit on 5/30/2015 by BuzzyWigs because: to add quote so Ultralight knows to which post I am responding.



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 08:10 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I am merely responding to your post, asking questions based on it. My intent is to understand your support of unions and apologize if you feel humiliated further by my questions.

Maybe you're in need of a "pay-it-forward" type of help. U2U me, please.

Blessings.



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 08:35 PM
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What is your county's average rent?

$19.62 wage required for 2 bedroom.

Holy Moly! My son just moved into a 1 bedroom. I don't think his and his wife's income is even that much. At the moment he's part time Yoga instructor at the YMCA.



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 09:17 PM
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originally posted by: Ultralight
a reply to: olaru12

Where does every dollar of your union dues go toward?


Why do you think it's any of your business what I do with my money, where it goes, or how it is used by those I choose to pay it to.

But for your information....

It goes toward my retirement, healthcare/vision/dental, lawyers encase any of the production companies decide to go bankrupt and not pay the crew or actors or pay the residuals like they agreed to in the contracts and to keep the infrastructure of SAG/AFTRA, IATSE strong to help it's members. It's a great deal not to be at the mercy of the Scumbags at Disney; they make promises and break them just to save a few bucks. With out the Union attorneys, the workers would be SOL.

Union Proud, Union Strong

Thanks to my union, education and training, I can afford to own my place free and clear and be almost debt free.

Your turn to lay the Rush Limbaugh BS on me. You are going to bring up the union corruption rush meme aren't you? BTW, Rush is also a member of SAG/AFTRA, ask him what his union dues go toward!




edit on 30-5-2015 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 09:32 PM
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If you dont think service employes deserve a higher wage then try living without grocery stores, restaurants, Home Depots and so on and so forth and come back and tell me how much you actually took all of these places for granted and how you feel bad.



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 10:01 PM
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They claim you need $52,000 in MA to rent a 2 bedroom apartment.

Are they freaking nuts??? That's $1,500 a month using the broken 1/3 1/3 1/3 formula.

The truth is $1,100 or $1,200 will get you a nice 2br apartment in a nice area. Simply put these people are lying.

In SC their numbers are completely off as well.



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 10:03 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
Union Proud, Union Strong


Great. Unions are all for high minimum wage .. for non union people, and low minimum wage for union workers.


Unions seek exemption from LA minimum wage law they helped pass

www.foxnews.com...



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 10:06 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Well... where im at you cant even get a 1 bedroom for less than 1500.



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 10:52 PM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Well... where im at you cant even get a 1 bedroom for less than 1500.

Just because your small location is expensive does not make the whole State expensive.



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 10:55 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

I was just asking. Sheeesh...

Questions often follow a post, so mine was relevant to your post. You don't need to be snarky. Of course, it isn't my business, but YOU announced to the world YOU belong to a union and put it out there.

Once you pay your dues, it's the Unions money and no longer under your care, custody or control anymore, (not yours)...they in turn use it however they wish and, of course, YOU have a voice in how they use it. MMMhmmmm. I have NO doubt you will take the opportunity to tell me if I am wrong about this, no?

But now that you've gotten my Irish dander up, anamochara, it is now my turn to defend against your heated response to my post:

I have NO college degree, never belonged to any union of any kind (not even a credit union), I own my own THRIVING business and have for 19 years in arguably the most expensive state in the nation, I am not "almost" debt free, I am free. I owe the growth of my business 50% to my employees and 45% to my parents, who gave me the spine and moral compass, both I have used to plunge head first into a male driven business ( oh yes, I have achieved success), and I take 5% credit for this success, well, because I made prudent decisions along the way. My industry has no union and I am glad they don't. I want my staff to control their own money, every penny...and they do to the fullest extent they can (taxes are uncontrollable, you know). I provide full benefits, my lowest paid employee is me. We provide quarterly bonuses, holiday bonuses and profit share. They are happy, I am happy, and you are out here chest-thumping you are "union proud". I would be making your mistake should I state that you insinuate that Unions are the only place to work that gives a squat. But I won't make that mistake...




I have honestly NEVER watched Rush whats-his-last-name


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posted on May, 30 2015 @ 11:00 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

The state of California is expensive.



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 11:06 PM
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originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

The state of California is expensive.

It's not much more than MA. Their list has Cali $2.00/hr higher than MA. If they were completely wrong about MA I am willing to bet the same about Cali. Just because you can't get into a certain location doesn't mean all rent is that high.

ETA: I looked and saw lots of 2-3br places to rent just outside of LA for $1500 or less.
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posted on May, 31 2015 @ 06:08 AM
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The cost of rent, and home ownership is outrageous and that people have sat on their butts for decades and let this slide and occur, this massive theft of their children's future, is beyond belief. My grandfather's lake front property, when he was a horse logger making several thousand a year, was just over 600 dollars, or not even 1 years salary for him. It was a cabin they had to build up the house over the years, most people's homes were only a few times their yearly salary.

The only reason this was allowed to happen by the citizens is there was a huge pay off factor involved in selling out your children and creating a scenario where mainly rich foreigners could grab the properties to rent out to your children for 2/3 of their salaries. When the prices raised, baby boomers suddenly had large amounts of money in their homes.

It shouldn't be like that. It should be like Norway with essentials such as land/homes, food and utilities being fixed prices and kept low, where there should be sliding scales, where you're home isn't more than 1/3 your income with utilities included, and that all had homes.



posted on May, 31 2015 @ 07:49 AM
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I don't hate billionaires but we got to find a way to return some of that money to workers. The system just don't work for a populace over the long term. Giving the money to the government to redistribute is NOT the answer either.

We have to find a way to limit how much of a companies profits goes to a few while increasing the profits going to workers and in hiring of more workers.

It's simply not fair for a CEO out on his Boat to be making $500 hour while at the same time the Janitor in the company is scrubbing the toilet, making $8.

The CEO will never spend that $500 anyway...there fore that money does not cycle and create demand for more products but you give all the Janitors $30 an hour and you will see them spend it and create demand for goods which then creates jobs.

The money has to flow up and back down or we get what we got now. Super wealthy and Poor. We are just letting to much cash flow up and never back down.



posted on May, 31 2015 @ 08:15 AM
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I did not read the thread and have nothing to add to it aside from a sideways view of the reason things seem to be so difficult in this world and economy....

People who are in debt become immobilized, predictable and controllable and waste resources and time and funds to kill the pain and ease the boredom of their entrapment.

It is not in the interests of those who would want to control things for their own gain to allow people to earn enough money to stop and think about things for long enough to realize what a huge pile of # the world they live in actually is.

# has always been this way, just to a somewhat lesser degree in the past....



posted on May, 31 2015 @ 08:17 AM
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originally posted by: Pants3204
$7.25/hr @ 85 hours a week is about $620/week, or $2500/month. How is this not enough to rent a single bedroom apartment? Where are you living that has rent this high, and maybe the better question is, why are you still living there?


Surely the question here is that why the heck would one have to work 85 hours a week to afford reasonable housing?

Work to live, not live to work.

I'm still laughing at an 85 hour working week being part of any reasonable explanation.



posted on May, 31 2015 @ 10:01 AM
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Here's a question...what about the disabled people
who cannot work? They do not get more than the
fixed minimum wage of $7.45 (?) an hour. How can
they afford anything?

Great topic & thread...

Cheers
Ektar




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