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New Video Shows Turkish Intelligence Smuggling Arms to Jihadists in Syria

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posted on May, 30 2015 @ 11:31 AM
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Hi everyone, I came across this story yesterday and I couldn’t find any ATS threads on it yet, so here we go.

A little over a week ago, Reuters broke a story claiming that the Turkish intelligence organization Millî İstihbarat Teşkilatı, MİT had been caught smuggling arms to parts of Syria under Islamist-Rebel control.

Prosecutors were tipped off and vehicle shipments, one in November 2013 and three others in January 2014, were searched and found to contain medicine and weaponry such as mortar shells, allegedly on their way to ISIS and Al Nusra fighters in Syria. The November shipment was seized, but the January shipments were allowed to progress into Syria, allegedly after MIT agents driving the vehicles threatened the searchers sufficiently.

Video footage published yesterday by Cumhuriyet, a Turkish daily, shows two of the trucks in January being stopped and searched.


On Jan. 2, 2014, two Syria-bound trucks belonging to Turkey’s National Intelligence Organization (MİT) were stopped by a prosecutor from Adana who sought to have the gendarmerie search the vehicles.

The prosecutor and the soldiers on duty were then all arrested after the Turkish Intelligence Service interrupted the search, and Turkish government declared that the trucks were carrying “humanitarian aid” for the Turkmen villages in Syria. Footage shows the hidden ammunition below the top layer of antibiotics. The trucks, it turns out, were driven by agents of the Turkish Intelligence Organization MIT.



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The daily claimed the trucks were carrying a total of 1,000 mortar shells, 80,000 rounds of ammunition for light and heavy weapons as well as hundreds of grenade launchers.

Istanbul prosecutors immediately launched an investigation into Cumhuriyet on "terrorism" charges, the online Radikal newspaper said.

The government earlier claimed the trucks were carrying humanitarian aid to Turkomen community in Syria and President Recep Tayyip Erdogan branded the interception "treason."


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As far as I can tell, there is no legitimate proof that these weapons actually made it into the hands of ISIS fighters. However, it would seem apparent that Turkey is covertly shipping weapons to people in areas currently controlled by ISIS… So take that as you will.

Here are a few more articles related to the story:

Video Shows Turkey Smuggling Arms to Syrian Jihadists

Turkish intelligence ‘aided shipment of arms’ to Syrian rebel areas

Turkish daily accuses government of sending arms to Syrian rebels

Turkish PM Dismisses Syria Arms Video as Election Ploy
edit on 30-5-2015 by sixandone because: line spacing




posted on May, 30 2015 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: sixandone

Well its a well known fact the Saudis (Since they are involved the US also has a hand on it too) and Turks are involved with the creation of ISIS.



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 11:41 AM
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a reply to: sixandone


Prosecutors were tipped off…

So we are to believe the Turkish government is 'prosecuting' the… Turkish government for a couple of trucks of bandaids?

Like Turkey (a member of NATO) isn't fully responsible for shipping war materiel and fighters across their border to aid the overthrow of Syria's government. This is a ruse to get us thinking that is that isn't occurring with their knowledge?

The ploy here is disinformation--- "See, Turkey (NATO) isn't officially supporting the rebels."



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: sixandone


Prosecutors were tipped off…

So we are to believe the Turkish government is 'prosecuting' the… Turkish government for a couple of trucks of bandaids?

Like Turkey (a member of NATO) isn't fully responsible for shipping war materiel and fighters across their border to aid the overthrow of Syria's government. This is a ruse to get us thinking that is that isn't occurring with their knowledge?


In regards to your first question, the articles linked elaborate on this. Apparently, a prosecutor named Ozcan Sisman ordered the search on the first truck, and he claims he was tipped off by a police officer. I've tried to learn more about Ozcan Sisman, but most information relating to him on the internet is in Turkish. Ozcan Sisman is a prosecutor, and he is not prosecuting the Turkish government from what I understand. Also, the trucks contained weapons, not bandaids.

If I am correct in understanding your second question, the stories actually implicate the opposite. Allegedly, it's occurring with their knowledge.



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: sixandone


Also, the trucks contained weapons, not bandaids.



were searched and found to contain medicine..

Whatever, 'medicine' and two trucks, hardly an insurgency, right? Have you bothered to follow the history of the threads here about the smuggling of weapons and fighters across NATO's border with Syria?

I won't bother doing the searching for you, you appear to be in league with the misinformation campaign. I remember when they told us it was a civil war against Assad. You don't hear that much anymore. Just, ISIS…. Bombing ISIS, destroying ISIS…


pffft…



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 01:34 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: sixandone

you appear to be in league with the misinformation campaign.



I'm sorry you think that way...


edit on 30-5-2015 by sixandone because: ..



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 01:44 PM
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a reply to: sixandone

Please guys, lets not try to pretend this is all as simple as some want to believe. No, you can't possibly know what an entire governments motivations are - because there a hundred different motivations.

I have no doubt that Turkey is like many other nations around the world, they have a divided and nefarious intelligence and secret service engaged in all kinds of atrocious things, depending on the motivations of those in positions of power within the agency and depending on what they need to get, what they need to cover up, who they need to kill or which groups they need to attack (or support).

The same happens in every country, even the US. These agencies have a hundred different things going on, with a hundred different teams or individuals overseeing them, and a hundred secret budgets to use to their advantage. Of course people will use that for their own ends.

These situations are so complex and corrupt it's utterly impossible for anyone out there to know what's going on here.

However, having said all of that, it certainly SEEMS that Turkey should now be put under sanctions for supporting and funding a terrorist network. Even though these things are far more complex than anyone here will ever understand, perception is important, and based on this alone that country should be punished for their perceived involvement with a terrorist group.



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 02:08 PM
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originally posted by: sixandone

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: sixandone

you appear to be in league with the misinformation campaign.

I'm sorry you think that way…

I doubt that.

Watch this video if you want truth



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 02:30 PM
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Um, ISIS if a fake terrorist group set up by various countries to catch people who want to join terrorism. The end.



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 02:47 PM
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a reply to: intrptr

You see You say if you want the truth watch this link well i did and i find it hard to believe the americans would use such an amature group that drive in the dark with no lights but leave the brake lights operating are we to believe that they have been trained but not taught the very very basics in night time movements? So either that link is not showing well trained people or its showing something else that you believe is true and you belittle others on here ? i doubt any one on ATS will ever know the whole truth but they certainly wont when there is so much inter bitching, damn sad really



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 02:56 PM
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Prime Minister Davutoglu ( Son of David ) has told everyone that those weapons were sent to Turkmen tribes in Syria for self defence against ISIS threat .

He is telling the truth.



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 02:57 PM
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a reply to: astra001uk


i find it hard to believe the americans would use such an amateur group

Rebel armies can't be allowed to outclass their handlers.

Fine dividing line that. Your complaint is a minute in, watch the whole thing. The rebels wanted Stingers, too, but were denied. Guess what, US jets are pounding Syria now.

The Turkish border is the pipe line for most of what ails Syria. Including anti tank missiles of the TOW variety.



posted on May, 30 2015 @ 03:16 PM
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Ok, i'll just say it again since once isn't enough. ISIS is a fake terrorist group made for the purpose of attracting specific people with deranged views on insane religious literature and beliefs in gods and other mental-case type fallacy.
edit on 30-5-2015 by thighs because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 31 2015 @ 06:12 AM
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a reply to: sixandone

Turkey is NATO

And boss of NATO is the USA

And ISIS is their little pet project to destroy Syria and oust Assad



posted on May, 31 2015 @ 06:15 AM
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a reply to: Rocker2013

Extremely elaborate excuse for ISIS support you typed.

Signed
Yoda



posted on May, 31 2015 @ 11:35 AM
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originally posted by: BentBone
a reply to: sixandone

Turkey is NATO

And boss of NATO is the USA

And ISIS is their little pet project to destroy Syria and oust Assad

Yep, as a good minion, Turkey doesn't do squat without US oversight.



posted on May, 31 2015 @ 11:45 AM
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a reply to: intrptr

So explain to me how nato is forcing people to do things, I am really interested to hear how this happens.



posted on May, 31 2015 @ 12:02 PM
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a reply to: Irishhaf


I am really interested to hear how this happens.

I doubt that.



posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 07:01 PM
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Update:

Turkish intelligence agency giving ISIL safe passage into Syria


Newly-surfaced video footage has corroborated widespread assertions that the Turkish government's intelligence agency has been ensuring ISIL terrorists safe passage into Syria.



Photo: A sceengrab of footage released by the daily, Cumhuriyet, on June 12, 2015, shows a Turkish driver pointing to the ISIL base where he dropped off militants.

The US media continues to ignore the truth about who is behind ISIS.



posted on Jun, 12 2015 @ 09:19 PM
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I think again to even begin to understand what is happening in Syria you have at least have a basic grasp who is who and who is fighting who. Weapons going into to Syria could literally being going to a couple dozen different groups all fighting different sides and at times changing sides depending on the situation.

You have the US/Turkish backed Syrian Coalition that is made up of lots of moderate groups the are allied with the Kurds who are US/Israeli backed but, not liked by the Turks. Now the US sees ISIS as the main threat in Syria because of its effect on Iraq as well. That is where the US want the rebels and Kurds to focus. Turkey sees Assad as the main threat and wants the rebels and the Kurds to focus on his forces. A large rebel force has been training in Turkey and will have US and Turkish air support when it crosses. So far the Turks and the US have pretty much decided they should push equally against ISIS and Assad.

The US thinks finishing off ISIS will mean the rebels can then go back to defeating Assad as they were doing before ISIS showed up and they started fighting. The Turks think ISIS should be used a tool to take out Assad and that once that is done ISIS will be an easy target.

Meanwhile, Assad sees the rebels as the biggest threat. And while his forces are being attacked by ISIS his air force also bombs rebel positions when ISIS is attacking them. Assad thinks that if he defeats the rebels then with no moderate groups left in Syria the West will forced to support him against ISIS.

Al Quida and other radical groups fight with and against pretty much everybody in a desperate bid to survive long enough to hopefully take out whom ever wins but is weakened by the war.

Israel, beyond its historical support of the Kurds, supports the Druze in the south of Syria. In particular the Druze who along with some border town militias and Bedouins have formed a buffer zone between ISIS in the south and Israel. Although ISIS is pushing harder and harder against them. If the US does not answer Israels and the Druze request for air support Israel will be forced to intervene and secure the buffer zone.

Then you have lots of tribal, ethnic and town militias who get aid and fight against or with whomever they have to just to survive.

That is Syria. Those are the sides. Could elements in Turkey see ISIS a tool to finish off Assad and then kill after? Sure. Would they risk arming a group that has captured so much ammunition they do not need it? Possible but, doubtful. Could the Turks be supplying some of the smaller factions and militias to keep ISIS and Assad from being able to control territory they are trying to hold? Very likely.

In the end ISIS is a group that fled Jordan while being hunted by the US and Israel. Found refuge in Iraq and new cause with the American invasion. Found new life when the US pulled out Saddam's ex officers teamed up with them to try and blitz Baghdad. Found an even bigger cause when the radicals Assad let loose from his prisons to cause problems for the rebels signed on with ISIS. Beat the rebels down and then turned on Assad as well. Now trapped my massive forces ISIS is doomed to a slow death. Their is not great conspiracy to ISIS, no outside creators, they are simply a group that found itself in the right place at the right time.




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