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it is unusual , but lets ascribe one of our favourite theories , sleep paralysis.. now , im no expert but im pretty sure the disabled, and the blind would still suffer from these ailments , yet there seems to be a hole in the data
I have an almost photographic memory of some events, even from my early childhood, I can recall and see details like the texture of a wall, often events of memory to me look like a photographic image, but live, like a video.
Just because you cannot recall your dinner last Monday doesn't mean you didn't eat that dinner
Additionally, abduction experiences often involve missing time and memory loss during that time, it is a known phenomenon, there are plenty of credible reports. Perhaps there is something that has the ability for manipulating time, space and memory that you or current scientific comprehension isn't aware of yet.
The facts are, things have happened that are beyond he normal sphere of reality, either the stuff of dimensions or dimensional beings with powers beyond human capabilities. My own experiences are something I rarely even mention these days due to the attitudes of some. I don't need to talk about it, it isn't for attention but when there are others experiencing similar things, it is good to know. The human brain tries making sense of things, it is natural to look for validation.
originally posted by: Bybyots
It also might be more fruitful to seek out clinical studies involving the deaf, blind and hallucinations, not alien abduction.
Also, the deaf and blind are likely going to already be under the care of a physician, so any complaints concerning weird # happening during sleep would be compared against the sequelae reported to be involved in sleep-disorders related to the temporal lobes, frontal lobes, and REM abnormalities.
Not alien abduction.
Visual release hallucinations, also known as Charles Bonnet syndrome (CBS), is the experience of complex visual hallucinations in a person with partial or severe blindness. First described by Charles Bonnet in 1760, it was first introduced into English-speaking psychiatry in 1982.
Sufferers, who are mentally healthy people with often significant vision loss, have vivid, complex recurrent visual hallucinations (fictive visual percepts). One characteristic of these hallucinations is that they usually are "lilliputian" (hallucinations in which the characters or objects are smaller than normal). The most common hallucination is of faces or cartoons. Sufferers understand that the hallucinations are not real, and the hallucinations are only visual, that is, they do not occur in any other senses, e.g. hearing, smell or taste. Among older adults (> 65 years) with significant vision loss, the prevalence of Charles Bonnet syndrome has been reported to be between 10% and 40%; a recent Australian study has found the prevalence to be 17.5%. Two Asian studies, however, report a much lower prevalence. The high incidence of non-reporting of this disorder is the greatest hindrance to determining the exact prevalence; non-reporting is thought to be a result of sufferers being afraid to discuss the symptoms out of fear that they will be labelled insane.
People suffering from CBS may experience a wide variety of hallucinations. Images of complex colored patterns and images of people are most common, followed by animals, plants or trees and inanimate objects. The hallucinations also often fit into the person's surroundings.
originally posted by: Arbitrageur
Who is arguing that? Certainly not me. If anything I agree with McDonald that something better than anecdotes is needed, which is one of the points of this thread, to point out one of many reasons why that is so.
originally posted by: TeaAndStrumpets
And here we are, 50 years later, with a whole new generation of fearful people arguing that there is STILL NO NEED to "get on to something much better" with our study of UFOs.
If there isn't anything better for the scientists to look at than anecdotes, they aren't going to be able to do anything scientific with anecdotes.
but then if Sp is merely the trigger , wouldn't this category of people be subject to a nearly identical l array of other physiological , and physiological misfires, that lead down same path to the abduction scenario, and top the ears of others?
and given your own experiences with sp , coupled with an interest in the phenomena, be suggestive that pre-knowledge of the abduction phenomena and it tenants, is unlikely to be part of the trigger during sp ?
have you tried forcing your mind to think , abduction, or used associative imagery to link with the abduction phenomena to try an induce? ,
say as the paralysis starts tipping gently into Rem , that's if you have controlled the panic by now , but then ide imagine your accustomed to it .. I say ..tinker
originally posted by: funbox
thanks for being so hospitable to the derailment Arbitrageur,
One of the authors, Elizabeth F. Loftus, has for some years been investigating the circumstances under which information received subsequent to a complex natural event, such as an accident or a crime, causes systematic and predictable changes in witnesses' recollections of the event (seeLoftus, 1979, for a review of this research). Sightings of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and of unknown or rare animal species (the topic of cryptozoology) are in some ways very similar to the witnessing of a crime or of an accident. In particular, crimes, accidents, UFOs, and unidentifiable animals are all phenomena that present considerable challenges to accurate perception, interpretation, and recall.
In the present paper, we first very briefly review some recent findings on the alteration of human recollection. This review is necessarily less than comprehensive, but we hope that it gives at least the flavor of recent research. Next, we suggest some applications of recent recollection change research to the evaluation of reports from persons who claim to have witnessed anomalous events, such as the appearance of UFOs.
The paper goes on to suggest that to get the most accurate recollections, interviewing the witness within 30 minutes of the event would be preferred.