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Porn Addiction part of BIPOLAR illness?

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posted on May, 29 2015 @ 12:03 PM
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It is an interesting question no?

They call it "Hypersexuality" and it may be the last frontier in bipolar disorder research.



Bipolar Disorder

Even now, despite everything that has been learned about the illness, it’s hard to put a finger on how big a problem it really is. The research is limited. Only seven studies have ever been published on the subject and their findings diverge: According to these studies, hypersexuality occurs in 25 to 80 percent of all patients with mania.

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And that hardly tells the story. For, despite its primal role in human behavior, sexuality remains one of the hardest, most sensitive subjects to dredge up in any but the most cursory details. Which explains why, while hypersexuality is listed as one of the primary symptoms of bipolar in the DSM-IV (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition), many psychiatrists refer to it almost as an afterthought—if at all—when forming a diagnosis.

www.bphope.com...


"At least one study found that hypersexuality appears to play a larger role in women’s lives than in men’s. The 1980 study, led by Kay Redfield Jamison, PhD, a clinical psychologist generally regarded as one of the foremost experts on bipolar disorder—and one of its most well-known sufferers—reported that women with bipolar tend to be far more sexually provocative and seductive than their male counterparts. "




posted on May, 29 2015 @ 12:13 PM
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posted on May, 29 2015 @ 12:16 PM
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a reply to: wasaka

When did desire turn into chemical imbalance?

Enjoy everything in moderation.


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posted on May, 29 2015 @ 01:26 PM
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The whole matter of anyone's emotional-sexual life tends, for the most part, to be uninspected. Sexuality can never be simply divorced from emotions - because both involve feeling. Even to those who think sex can just be about physical release, there is always feelings involved in it, motivating it, defining it, restricting it, causing promiscuity, etc.

It's just that most of us do not want to get very deep relative to our emotional patterns, how they constrict our life energy flowing through the body-mind, determine our choice of mates, etc., etc.

I agree this can be a philosophical topic as well, because one's emotional-sexual patterns determine one's outlook and behavior - far more than most people seem to think.

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posted on May, 29 2015 @ 01:33 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: wasaka

When did desire turn into chemical imbalance?

Enjoy everything in moderation.


A recent Australian study found that 86% of people
thought “chemical imbalance” was a likely or very
likely cause of depression. Why not sexual desire
or the "disorder" called Hypersexuality.

People who attribute mental health problems to brain
disease or heredity tend to blame affected people less.

However, they are also more pessimistic about recovery,
more willing to socially exclude affected people and more
likely to see them as dangerous.



posted on May, 29 2015 @ 01:36 PM
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In ten years, every behavior will be labeled a disease, addiction, illness or disjunction.
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posted on May, 29 2015 @ 01:37 PM
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originally posted by: bb23108
a reply to: wasaka
The whole matter of anyone's emotional-sexual life tends, for the most part, to be uninspected. Sexuality can never be simply divorced from emotions - because both involve feeling. Even to those who think sex can just be about physical release, there is always feelings involved in it, motivating it, defining it, restricting it, causing promiscuity, etc.

It's just that most of us do not want to get very deep relative to our emotional patterns, how they constrict our life energy flowing through the body-mind, determine our choice of mates, etc., etc.

I agree this can be a philosophical topic as well, because one's emotional-sexual patterns determine one's outlook and behavior - far more than most people seem to think.


Yes, in the age of critical thinking, anything that
goes examined is a curiosity to me. I agree that sex
and so-called "hypersexuality" goes uninspected.

Most people can confess they battle with drugs
and can even admit to being addicted even after
years of subsidiarity... but with sex.... not so much.

What we call "bipolar" AND "hypersexual" could
be a large segment of the population, but it
seem this is a taboo subject. Why?



posted on May, 29 2015 @ 01:42 PM
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originally posted by: Visitor2012
In ten years, every behavior will be labeled a disease, addiction, illness or disjunction.


Disjunction; what is your function?

"mental illness" could be the sane response
to being forced in to the role of a mindless
drone by some false authority.

The "sick" are healthy minds in rebellion.

Yeah, that's it.



posted on May, 29 2015 @ 01:55 PM
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i find porn addiction fascinating, the same men who are addicted to porn demand their women to be vestal virgins at and during the entirety of marriage.

it is a sick duality and double standard.

the madonna complex is very real today

Men often throw away good women that are naughty or adventurous in bed because they need to feel they are the only man in her body ever, however the same men then relentlessly cheat good women with ladies of the night that suit their pornographic ideas contrary to the rules they hold their wives to endure.

They also ignore the good girls at home who saved themselves for one man and remain steadfast, while they repeatedly patronize women who are completely opposite!

opposite talk about punishment for good behavior

porn hasn't ruined men, women have, instead of burning our bras we should have focused on the teachings of harems over the centuries we could rule our homes and in suit the world from our bedrooms, instead we fought not smarter but harder and wanted to be part of the working world-

A good woman knows how to get what she really wants, a liberated woman has cats and a prestigious job and very few male prospects...except for extremely rare situations they are generally single for long periods of time

A smart woman has whatever she wants nearly at whim and whatever lovers she wants and everyone is happy...its simple really.

And for any woman who feels this may be rude etc I am a woman, and was in the adult industry for over 20 years and know very well why your husbands cheated first hand.




edit on 29-5-2015 by Thisisfun2015 because: left out the good stuff

edit on 29-5-2015 by intrepid because: Disgusting term removed.



posted on May, 29 2015 @ 02:04 PM
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a reply to: intrptr

So sorry, for the thread drift! It was intentional due to the fact he tried this topic before under false pretenses! Now, I will formulate a response relevant to this discussion! Addiction to porn is a choice as well as a conditional behavioral force fed us by society with the commercialization of sex being everywhere today! Being addicted to sex itself is human nature for the stimulation it brings and the desire to connect with another in an intimate form of communication. Being bipolar has nothing to do with either instance. Being bipolar is a disease that affects mood swings and causes depression that requires medication to suppress and overcome daily rituals.



posted on May, 29 2015 @ 02:11 PM
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a reply to: Thisisfun2015

> the madonna complex is very real today

Yes, but isn't it mostly among strict Catholics
(like the Italians in the Bronx) and other
very conservative Christian groups.

Jesus said, "Judge a tree by it's fruit"
and when I apply this standard to the
religion that claims the name of Christ
what I find is things like this.

From the Madonna complex to the
holocaust of 6 million Muslims in the
past 15 years, are both a direct result
of the Christian religion--IMHO.

Do you see that connection?



posted on May, 29 2015 @ 02:15 PM
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a reply to: wasaka
Yes, taboo is the right word for it.

One could say our personality is two-fold - we have our outer social face, and beneath that we have all the rest of our patterns, our hidden persona, including all the creeps and crawlies! We seldom feel free to animate anything other than our social persona. People do sometimes, especially when they have way more to drink than what is socially-acceptable.

But we are taught to keep all of this hidden, to never even discuss it - mainly because few know how to handle unbridled emotional-sexual force. Much of it is a matter of education, and also of disciplining the body-mind to learn how to conduct the emotional-sexual energy of the being so it becomes balanced, and can actually awaken as whole bodily feeling, as intrinsic love, not dependent on another to be able to feel one's inherent love.

Unfortunately, our society at large seems content to keep a lid on it all - but invariably the taboos and provincialism can only hold it in place for so long for many people. Emotional-sexual outbursts eek out one way or another with promiscuity, affairs, atrocities relative to children, hyper-sexuality, etc.

Emotional-sexual energy, of course, is not the problem - it is learning how to allow it to manifest in the body-mind as life-energy, as fullness, as feeling, and really, as love, that needs to be addressed.




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posted on May, 29 2015 @ 02:41 PM
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originally posted by: bb23108
a reply to: wasaka
Yes, taboo is the right word for it.

Emotional-sexual energy, of course, is not the problem - it is learning how to allow it to manifest in the body-mind as life-energy, as fullness, as feeling, and really, as love, that needs to be addressed.


I agree with everything you said.

Children naturally understand love, but the problem
is their parent do not. Adults in our society have
replaced love with fear and religious nuttery.



posted on May, 29 2015 @ 02:43 PM
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I dont know much about behing bi polar, but addicts do look for the quick pleasure response, addicts brains are differently wired, and the need for quick pleasure stumps everything else, be it food,drugs,sex,porn,shoping.

Its been proven that people that have had some type or brain dammage, are more inclined towards addiction.

Hope i wasent off topic.



posted on May, 29 2015 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualKat33
a reply to: intrptr

Being addicted to sex itself is human nature for the stimulation it brings and the desire to connect with another in an intimate form of communication. Being bipolar has nothing to do with either instance.

Being bipolar is a disease that affects mood swings and causes depression that requires medication to suppress and overcome daily rituals.


Maybe you are right.... maybe "hypersexuality" has nothing
to do with being bipolar, two separate issues as you say.
Then again, maybe seeing a connection can aid in the
recovery process. Maybe dealing with one becomes
easier when your are honest about the other.

Openness, honesty, and autonomy are the keys
to being a responsible adult. Living in denial about
any addiction (even a "love" addiction) and leave
a wake of destruction in your life and in the lives
of those you hurt (i.e., those you claim to love).



posted on May, 29 2015 @ 03:08 PM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969

...addicts do look for the quick pleasure response, addicts brains are differently wired, and the need for quick pleasure stumps everything else, be it food,drugs,sex,porn,shoping.

Its been proven that people that have had some type or brain dammage, are more inclined towards addiction.


"quick pleasure response" (cigarettes, porn, gambling, etc).
is what the addict wants ("more is always better" etc).

We like to mess with our own heads and find new ways
to release the chemicals stored in the hypothalamus.

The hypothalamus is a section of the brain responsible
for the production of many of the body's essential hormones,
chemical substances which feed the quick pleasure response.

How we choose to think (what we tell ourselves) can trigger
the habit energy in a mystical/emotional/spiritual level and
this is then reinforce by the chemicals in our brain.



posted on May, 29 2015 @ 03:12 PM
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In some very real sense we are all addicts - we constantly seek pleasure because we think we need to stimulate ourselves in various ways to have such pleasure. This is because we don't already feel the inherent pleasure in being open with the whole body-mind to the boundless energy we live in, breathe, and can feel if we recognize our situation here. We just are insensitive to that pleasurable connectedness to everything, and this can be changed.

Our insensitivity to our inherent pleasure (emotional-sexual energy) is due to many different reasons - diet, poor health, lack of exercise, contractions in the body all over the place, not feeling with the head but only thinking all the time, seeking endlessly for outside stimulation via sex, food, etc., etc.

Once we awaken to how we are constantly constricting our life energy in all kinds of ways, we can do things to counter those patterns, and to help us feel our innate joy more. Then we won't demand that another fulfill us because we already are feeling joy and love.

But it is very common for people to engage a relationship in order to feel love due to a felt sense of emptiness rather than really sharing love. It is something we can undo in ourselves with education, discipline, etc. On that basis, we will have a much better shot of a happy relationship that doesn't work over the other with unrealistic demands to fulfill oneself.

More along these lines should be taught to our children so they grow up as strong in body, emotion, and mind - not just body and/or mind.



posted on May, 29 2015 @ 03:26 PM
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When a man loves a woman, then he naturally also loves many other people; and when a woman loves a man, then she also loves many other people, because love cannot be limited to a single person. If there is love there at all, it cannot be circumscribed. This is only possible when there is no love.

Love is like breathing. If someone told you, “I only breathe when I am with you, and the rest of the time I don’t breathe”, then you wouldn’t believe him. How could you believe him? He would be dead, if he didn’t breathe without you.

Love is the breath of your soul.

But this is what we have turned it into: for centuries we have made people believe in such stupid ideas and in the process brought so much unhappiness into the world, sown so much jealousy, possessiveness and hatred – for no reason at all! We have programmed this stupid idea into people’s heads that love can only be between two people and therefore must be a dyadic relationship. “True love is a dyadic relationship. When it is not, it is not true love.”

The truth is the exact opposite: when it is a dyadic relationship, it is not true love. In this case, it is not authentic, it is a deception, just an illusion. Then two people are imagining something and are untrue to themselves – not only to their partner, but also to themselves!

How can a man who has a sense of beauty avoid noticing the beauty of women? How can he avoid being interested in them? The only way is to destroy completely his sense of beauty. But then he is not interested any more in his own wife either. This is exactly what has happened: because of this idiotic idea that love must be purely a dyadic relationship, there is no more love on earth. The only possibility is that the husband no longer loves his own wife, since he must kill off the very drive to love. He must suppress every sense of beauty and forget completely that there is such a thing. But then – don’t forget this – he cannot love his own wife any more either – all he can do is pretend. Then he is condemned just to making empty, meaningless gestures.

A woman who is told, “You may only love your own husband and not show any interest in anyone else” necessarily will also lose interest in her own husband.

This is how couples lose interest in one another. They argue all the time. They never stop finding new reasons to fight with each other. But the real reason for their disputes is simply that their life energy is not allowed to unfold.

The truth is simply this: that a man who feels drawn to beauty is interested in many women. A woman who is interested in beauty is interested in all possible men. It may be that she is most interested in just one, maybe so much so that she wants to live together with this one person, but this does not mean that her interest in other people simply disappears: it is still there. However, when you go for a walk together with your husband or your wife, and the man says, “look at that woman, she is really beautiful!”, then there is immediate irritation. How can he say such a thing?! But there is nothing wrong with it. You should be happy, that your husband is normal and alive and that his tyres are not yet worn out. You should be happy, that he is still young and fresh, that he is still receptive to beauty. There is no reason to become jealous.



Osho




posted on May, 29 2015 @ 03:41 PM
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I come from a long line of depression and bipolar manic/depressant disorder. My grandfather, grandfather and dad all took there own lives, none lived passed 31. And I'm 28 ugh o.

To stay on topic I will say when your bipolar, as I am, you go though hypo-manic stages. During these stages you are full of energy sometimes to much and it leads to full blown mania and that's bad can land you in the hospital because you can go psychotic.

But 90% of the time its just hypo-manic and almost all bipolar people enjoy it because you happy have plenty of energy to do things and spend time with your family.

My wife loves and hates it. For example I want to go out and do things with her and I clean the whole house and take care of all my responsibility's. But on the down side and back to the OP I do become slightly hypersexual. Nothing crazy when depressed I would like to have sex 3-4 times a month but when hypo-manic I would prefer twice a week. And she's not usually up for it as I understand we both work long hours and have long commute's, and on top of that we have been together since 13 and have a 4 year old, so we dont do it like animals anymore. But that's how I feel when hypo-manic 13 agian and ready anytime.

Now that does not make me a weirdo I just enjoy sex more in that state. And I barely ever watch porn, if she says no I just let it go. I would never in a million years get a prostitute and in 15 years I've never cheated no matter how sexual I am.

Well, I just wanted to give you a perspective from someone who has the disease. Not all bipolar's are sex,gambling,drug addicts. But I could see the line easily being crossed of you can't control yourself.



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