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originally posted by: IngyBall
What people don't seem to get, or just don't know, is that the way weather patterns work is that where its hot in dry in one place, it's cool and wet in another. I has to do with ridging and troughs. A prime example is in the CONUS right now. You have ridging in the East, which is leading to the hot summer like temperatures there. Then you have a trough in the central U.S, which is causing the cool wet weather. Then it's ridging again once you get to the west coast. Here in the DFW metroplex we are about to go all of May with out reaching 90 degrees, which would be the first time in recorded history. A lot of this has to do with the El Nino, which has just gone moderate. El Ninos will cause drought and intense beat to areas like East Asia and Australia. Texas will probably take a break from the constant rain during the summer, I say probably because there have been El Nino years like 2004 and 2007 where there have been major flooding in June and July. When Fall arrives you will likely hear of flooding returning to Texas, but this time California will likely be included in that flooding.
originally posted by: Cuervo
originally posted by: borntowatch
originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: lostbook
And the climate change deniers will defend their stance right up to the last singed hair on their head
Climate change deniers or man made climate change deniers.
I think you bandy your statements a little liberally, is it caused by man or is change just inevitable.
I am not making a statement just saying.
Does anybody deny the climate is changing?
Imagine there is a water tower without a top that supplies all of your street's drinking water. Frequent windstorms bring in debris and birds crap in it. On top of that, there is a group of local businessmen who piss in it because they believe it brings them financial luck.
Soon, it's determined that the water is too polluted to drink and something needs to be done about it before they all die of thirst. They ask the business men to stop pissing in the water tower but they refuse, saying that there's no way to prove that it's their piss that causing the pollution since storms also bring in contaminants. So they keep pissing in the water...
That is how that logic sounds to me when the last bastion of defense for deniers is "Well you can't prove that our pollution is causing all this pollution!" It's so aggravating that we accept that as a reasonable retort.
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
Who has denied climate change? It's happened ever since the Earth was formed, that would be a ridiculous thing to do.
If you meant 'Man Made' climate change, then that's a different story and no 'proof' can be put forward for this. Sure they can present models and try to predict it's so called catostrophic effects, but there is still no 'proof'.
Many hundreds died in Greece a fair few years ago when they experienced a real intense 'Heatwave', but it hasn't occurred with such ferocity since.
Edit- The Guardian are claiming 1000+ heat related deaths and the Huff Post were claiming 1100 heat related deaths yesterday. Kind of puts Ebola in the shade, so to speak.