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Exclusive: The CIA Is Shuttering a Secretive Climate Research Program

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posted on May, 27 2015 @ 10:34 PM

Scientists used the Medea program to study how global warming could worsen conflict. Now that project has come to an end.

—By Tim McDonnell
| Thu May 21, 2015 2:44 PM EDT

On Wednesday, when President Barack Obama spoke at the US Coast Guard Academy's commencement ceremony, he called climate change "an immediate risk to our national security." In recent months, the Obama administration has repeatedly highlighted the international threats posed by global warming and has emphasized the need for the country's national security agencies to study and confront the issue.

So some national security experts were surprised to learn that an important component of that effort has been ended. A CIA spokesperson confirmed to Climate Desk that the agency is shuttering its main climate research program. Under the program, known as Medea, the CIA had allowed civilian scientists to access classified data—such as ocean temperature and tidal readings gathered by Navy submarines and topography data collected by spy satellites—in an effort to glean insights about how global warming could create security threats around the world. In theory, the program benefited both sides: Scientists could study environmental data that was much higher-resolution than they would normally have access to, and the CIA received research insights about climate-related threats.

But now, the program has come to a close.

I am posting the MJ link because that was the first source to post it.

The CIA Medea program had been reopened in 2010 with strong support from both the CIA and the Obama administration, but now it is being shut down and you have to wonder why they are doing that now.

Shutting down the program will not allow civilian scientists to have access to the data that our military and other government agencies have access to regarding the climate and environment.

The monitoring program has little or no impact on regular intelligence gathering, federal officials said, but instead releases secret information already collected or takes advantage of opportunities to record environmental data when classified sensors are otherwise idle or passing over wilderness.

This is done under Obama's watch, so it seems the Obama administration alongside the CIA do not want to share climate and environmental data to civilian scientists that our military and other government agencies can gather regarding the climate and environment.

Any thoughts on why this could be happening?

edit on 27-5-2015 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.

posted on May, 27 2015 @ 10:38 PM
Yeah, they figured out that we're screwed- or the Republicans defunded it somehow.

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posted on May, 27 2015 @ 10:42 PM
a reply to: CB328

OR that it's BUNK.

posted on May, 27 2015 @ 11:02 PM
I was in another new topic and the Obama Haters chased me out with pitch forks...

Ill restate it here....


But maybe just maybe the president of the united states has more info than the average redneck or left wing yaya (ats).

I believe in the next 10 years we will be fighting a war over climate change. Starving people with militarys either revolt or attack. Check your history books.

Is it greenhouse/manmade or cyclic natural effects? I have no idea.. BUT ITS HAPPENING IDIOTS.


Yes wars will be fought over resources soon.

Obama I did not and would not ever vote for and his policys have hurt America overall is correct here.

He is also correct in his Laissez-faire approach in the ME... # ISIS and Iran. Let them go.

cheers all

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posted on May, 27 2015 @ 11:15 PM
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Official story, project completed.
External experts?

"Under the Medea program to examine the implications of climate change, CIA participated in various projects," a CIA spokesperson explained in a statement. "These projects have been completed and CIA will employ these research results and engage external experts as it continues to evaluate the national security implications of climate change."

What about the data? Unclear... Of course.

With the closure of the program, it remains unclear how much of this sort of data will remain off-limits to climate scientists. The CIA did not respond to questions about what is currently being done with the data that would have been available under the program.

From the MJ article Source

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posted on May, 27 2015 @ 11:19 PM
It sounds like the data gathered will not support the Globull warming agenda,so they shut it down.

posted on May, 28 2015 @ 12:29 AM
a reply to: Sunwolf

LOL there is NO AGENDA DUDE!!!!


Whether naturally or because of humans@!!!!


Get with it. the results are the same.

posted on May, 28 2015 @ 02:01 AM
a reply to: Legman

Not really, they are not the same. The goals that the AGW camp have in mind is to sequester atmospheric CO2. What I can tell you for sure that will do is cause more starvation. It won't stop or mitigate climate change. That's only what tptb want people to believe.

The Earth has been undergoing a lot of changes. The Earth's magnetic field started weakening in the 1840s-1860s, in the 90s the weakening doubled, and at the beginning of 2014 the weakening became 10 times worse than in the 90s.

Earth's Magnetic Field Is Weakening 10 Times Faster Now

In fact, in 2014 a study found that in 2014 there was in that year double the amount of large earthquakes compared to the average since 1979.

Big Earthquakes Double in 2014, But They're Not Linked

As a matter of fact, that study even pointed out that the average of big earthquakes has been increasing.

The average rate of big earthquakes — those larger than magnitude 7 — has been 10 per year since 1979, the study reports. That rate rose to 12.5 per year starting in 1992, and then jumped to 16.7 per year starting in 2010 — a 65 percent increase compared to the rate since 1979. This increase accelerated in the first three months of 2014 to more than double the average since 1979, the researchers report.

Despite some people claiming it's not true, there has been an increase in earthquakes worldwide.

Plus of course the climate extremes we have been seen. All this points to something causing these changes. I do not know yet what is causing it, but tptb want to blame mankind and don't want us to question what is causing these changes.

edit on 28-5-2015 by ElectricUniverse because: correct and add comment.

posted on May, 28 2015 @ 03:27 AM
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Despite some people claiming it's not true, there has been an increase in earthquakes worldwide.

Compared to what? 1900 - 2014

I do not know yet what is causing it
Be sure to let us know when you do know. Ok?

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posted on May, 28 2015 @ 05:55 AM
a reply to: Phage

Yeah, be sure to tell the seismologists who work for the USGS, Tom Parsons and Eric L. Geist that they are wrong Phage. Ok?

1. Introduction

Obvious increases in the global rate of large (M ≥ 7.0) earthquakes happened after 1992, 2010, and especially during the first quarter of 2014 (Table 1 and Figure 1). Given these high rates, along with suggestions that damaging earthquakes may be causatively linked at global distance [e.g., Gomberg and Bodin, 1994; Pollitz et al., 1998; Tzanis and Makropoulos, 2002; Bufe and Perkins, 2005; Gonzalez-Huizar et al., 2012; Pollitz et al., 2012, 2014], we investigate whether there is a significant departure from a random process underlying these rate changes. Recent studies have demonstrated that M ≥ 7.0 earthquakes (and also tsunamis) that occurred since 1900 follow a Poisson process [e.g., Michael, 2011; Geist and Parsons, 2011; Daub et al., 2012; Shearer and Stark, 2012; Parsons and Geist, 2012; Ben-Naim et al., 2013]. Here we focus on the period since 2010, which has M ≥ 7.0 rates increased by 65% and M ≥ 5.0 rates up 32% compared with the 1979 – present average. The first quarter of 2014 experienced more than double the average M ≥ 7.0 rate, enough to intrigue the news media [e.g.,]. We extend our analysis to M ≥ 5.0 levels, as many of these lower magnitude events convey significant hazard, and global catalogs have not generally been tested down to these thresholds.

2. Methods and Data

We work with the Advanced National Seismic System (ANSS) catalog of M≥ 5.0 global earthquakes for the period between 1979 and 2014.3 with a primary focus on the recent interval between 2010 and 2014.3 that shows the highest earthquake rates (Table 1 and Figure 1). A variety of tests suggest that the catalog is complete down to magnitudes between M=4.6 and M=5.2, depending on the method used to assess it (see supporting information). We examine a range of lower magnitude thresholds above M =5.0 to account for this uncertainty.

The ANSS (Advanced National Seismic System) composite catalog is a world-wide earthquake catalog that is created by merging the master earthquake catalogs from contributing ANSS institutions and then removing duplicate solutions for the same event. The ANSS earthquake catalog grew out of the efforts of the CNSS (Council of the National Seismic System). It was previously called the CNSS earthquake catalog.

edit on 28-5-2015 by ElectricUniverse because: add link.

posted on May, 28 2015 @ 02:08 PM

Any thoughts on why this could be happening?


It wasn't supporting global warming so they wanted to shut it down to hide the data.

posted on May, 28 2015 @ 04:44 PM
It is a no-brainer of a study that any first year historian could write. Of course fewer resources will mean greater conflicts and higher threats. My guess is that whatever the money was actually earmarked for has run its course and the bodies have been buried and the proper bribes paid.

The earthquake paper, while off topic is actually extremely interesting, thanks for sharing!

posted on May, 28 2015 @ 08:03 PM
a reply to: Marid Audran

While it might seem off topic, they are actually related. Part of the point is that the Earth has not only been experiencing extreme weather events, but also Earth's magnetic field strength has been exponentially weakening, and earthquakes, even large ones, have also been increasing in frequency. These events can and do influence weather and climate.

Underwater volcanoes, not climate change, reason behind melting of West Antarctic Ice Sheet

Thwaites Glacier, the large, rapidly changing outlet of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, is not only being eroded by the ocean, it's being melted from below by geothermal heat, researchers at the Institute for Geophysics at The University of Texas at Austin (UTIG) report in the current edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
The geothermal heat contributed significantly to melting of the underside of the glacier, and it might be a key factor in allowing the ice sheet to slide, affecting the ice sheet's stability and its contribution to future sea level rise.

The cause of the variable distribution of heat beneath the glacier is thought to be the movement of magma and associated volcanic activity arising from the rifting of the Earth's crust beneath the West Antarctic Ice Sheet.
The findings of lead author Dusty Schroeder and his colleagues show that the glacier sits on something more like a multi-burner stovetop with burners putting out heat at different levels at different locations.
The collapse of the Thwaites Glacier would cause an increase of global sea level of between 1 and 2 meters, with the potential for more than twice that from the entire West Antarctic Ice Sheet.
According to his findings, the minimum average geothermal heat flow beneath Thwaites Glacier is about 100 milliwatts per square meter, with hotspots over 200 milliwatts per square meter. For comparison, the average heat flow of the Earth's continents is less than 65 milliwatts per square meter.

The MEDEA program allowed scientists access to data from military submarines, among other sources, and with the closing of this program now scientists will have less high quality data to determine what is happening to the Earth.

Now that President Obama has stated that Climate Change is linked to "national security" such data is essentially "classified".

edit on 28-5-2015 by ElectricUniverse because: add comment.

posted on May, 28 2015 @ 08:28 PM
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

An international phantom you can spend billions trying endlessly to defeat... Sounds familiar.
The next decades bogeyman "GWAR".

posted on May, 28 2015 @ 08:41 PM
a reply to: EA006

Yep, making Climate Change the new "war on terror" and making "climate Change" essential for "national security", they are classifying this information to only be used by those people/scientists they want to be able to access the data.

It also gives them a perpetual war on "mankind", since the climate will always be changing. TPTB do know they are not going to stop, or mitigate "Climate Change". But instead this excuse gives them the tools to control "mankind more".
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posted on May, 29 2015 @ 08:42 PM
a reply to: Sunwolf

It doesn'

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