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Spring in the Ukraine; Russia masses heavy firepower on border.

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posted on Jun, 2 2015 @ 07:03 PM
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Hawaii is sovereign land under military occupation.


Did not read the history of Hawaii but it is now and for few decades has been a "happy" part of the US stars and stripes.

Just like Crimea is now a "happy" part of Russian Federation.

There is no need to bring up such examples as they mostly prove be futile.



posted on Jun, 2 2015 @ 07:26 PM
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originally posted by: victor7
a reply to: RussianAmericanJew




Hawaii is sovereign land under military occupation.


Did not read the history of Hawaii but it is now and for few decades has been a "happy" part of the US stars and stripes.

Just like Crimea is now a "happy" part of Russian Federation.

There is no need to bring up such examples as they mostly prove be futile.


concur sentiment.

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posted on Jun, 2 2015 @ 08:09 PM
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originally posted by: victor7
a reply to: RussianAmericanJew




Hawaii is sovereign land under military occupation.


Did not read the history of Hawaii but it is now and for few decades has been a "happy" part of the US stars and stripes.

Just like Crimea is now a "happy" part of Russian Federation.

There is no need to bring up such examples as they mostly prove be futile.


Don't eve go there, indigenous Hawaiians are kept in poverty and are literally run off their land. I got a problem with hypocrisy of hereditary land grabbers that shame Crimeans for voting for their independence from Kievs fake-Nazi Junta, while ongoing colonial land grabbing is all just fine and dandy.

That's all that happened, strategically important Crime and resource rich East Ukraine refused to bend and surrender to land grabbers, all there's to it. I couldn't care about Putin and Russian politics, what irks me is the hypocrisy of land slaves getting all huffy-puffy about other people that refuse to be slaves.



posted on Jun, 2 2015 @ 09:42 PM
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a reply to: RussianAmericanJew

Yes Russia illegally invaded Ukraine, a sovereign nation, and illegally occupies Crimea. No amount of spin is going to change that fact.

Since Hawaii is not connected to Ukraine it would be nothing more than a distraction and deliberate attempt to derail the thread so how about we stick to the topic - Russias invasion and occupation of Ukraine.



posted on Jun, 3 2015 @ 09:32 AM
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Don't eve go there, indigenous Hawaiians are kept in poverty and are literally run off their land.


If this is true then matters need to be looked into by various bodies in the US which look after discrimination type issues. Have heard more about this or that casual news that Texas or California might want to break away, but none about Hawaii.

Don't think general sentiment in US is about splitting up like the stupid greedy bastards of Soviet Union leadership did.



posted on Jun, 3 2015 @ 09:40 AM
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I spent thirty years in Hawaii. Just like anywhere else there are poor Hawaiian people, there are rich Hawaiian people, and people in between. There are areas that are designated Hawaiian Homelands that you have to be a native Hawaiian to live, and non natives don't own land there. It's all leasehold.



posted on Jun, 3 2015 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: RussianAmericanJew

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: stumason

When in doubt and you cant refute the topic, bring up anything and everything unrelated to drag thread off topic.

The OSCE has commented on Russia in Ukraine and the UN just announced there is mounting evidence of Russian forces inside Ukraine.

go figure.



Where is all that "evidence"? For over a year all I've see are pathetic fakes that insult the intelligence of a garden slug.



Present company excluded ?

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posted on Jun, 3 2015 @ 09:52 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

I was about to explain that little nugget...

But once again, you beat me to it...you big meanie.



posted on Jun, 3 2015 @ 08:38 PM
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This seems like a good place to put this, relevant and perhaps now predictable:




Fierce fighting has taken place between Ukrainian government forces and pro-Russian rebels in eastern Ukraine, officials on both sides say.




The exact number of dead might only emerge with time, but both sides appear to have taken significant losses. Who is now in control of Maryinka is unclear. If Maryinka has been taken by the rebels, it would appear to be the most significant gain in territory since the Ukrainian military lost control of the town of Debaltseve, just after the Minsk deal was agreed.


Ukraine crisis: Heavy fighting rages near Donetsk, despite truce

It's not a major story on the BBC at the moment, but knowing how these things go it will probably climb up as things get worse and the whole FIFA thing becomes last weeks news.

It's also interesting to see this in relation to the other thread here about a supposed emergency military council meeting supposedly impending in Russia relating to authorizing Russian forces for combat outside of the country (story still not confirmed).

If that story turns out to be true and a meeting is held, this could indeed mark the spring offensive into Ukraine, which many of us expected.

I was saying last year that Crimea on its own is not a good enough prize considering the damage Russia has sustained. There has always been a bigger plan and I believe Russia fully intends to invade Ukraine with full force.



posted on Jun, 4 2015 @ 12:12 AM
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OSCE stumbles on Russian Armed Forces in Donetsk


According to Botsyurkiv, last week, the OSCE monitors in Donetsk met armed soldiers in uniforms with insignia of the Armed Forces of Russia, Joinfo.ua reports referring to the Russian media.

"Last week, on Thursday-Friday, our monitors stumbled on four armed men in camouflage uniforms with the insignia of the Russian Armed Forces in the Donetsk region. They also saw some pieces of equipment with Russian number plates and identification marks," said Botsyurkiv.

As it is known, on April 16, during the "direct line" Russian President Vladimir Putin stated that "there are no Russian troops in Ukraine." "Answering the question of whether there are or there or no our troops in Ukraine, I say: there are no Russian troops in Ukraine," he said, answering the question of Irina Khakamada.



posted on Jun, 4 2015 @ 02:02 PM
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The report was a rare allegation by the international monitors of a possible sighting of active Russian military personnel in eastern Ukraine. The monitors, however, did not identify the women or men who were observed in uniform in Petrivske, and there was no way to independently verify the monitors’ account.


www.nytimes.com...



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