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originally posted by: Xcathdra
The extent of Putins lies are starting to be questioned now by the Russian people and putin cant hide the Russian soldiers bodies coming back from Ukraine.
originally posted by: Britguy
As for military removing national insignia. I think you'll also find that Special Forces members, when deployed covertly in foreign parts also carry no identifying insignia or documents. So I guess they deserve a quick death if found in foreign parts too and it's all fine and fair? Or is that different if it's "our" guys not wearing insignia?
I have a distinct feeling that some pro west people in this thread understand whats going on but don't want to really explain
Russia is constantly reminding Ukrainian puppet president to be extremely careful what kind
That if treaty is broken and war begins again, Putin intends to WIN IT
When you deal with the devil (US) you better be armed.
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Britguy
And what of the Putinistas that keep claiming the US fomented the protests in Ukraine? So far they haven't provided any proof to back up that claim. Does that mean those claims are propaganda as well?
fo·ment ˌfōˈment,ˈfōˌment/ verb verb: foment; 3rd person present: foments; past tense: fomented; past participle: fomented; gerund or present participle: fomenting
1. instigate or stir up (an undesirable or violent sentiment or course of action). "they accused him of fomenting political unrest"
synonyms: instigate, incite, provoke, agitate, excite, stir up, whip up, encourage, urge, fan the flames of "they were accused of fomenting civil unrest"
this all started when Ukraine democratically declined the EU, then the US and the other NATO countries put the money to work.
Russia is making a last-minute push to derail the integration agreement, which is due to be signed in late November. Instead, Moscow wants to lure its neighbour into its own alliance, a customs union with Belarus and Kazakhstan that critics have referred to as a reincarnation of the Soviet Union. Russia has made it clear that Ukraine has to choose between the two options and cannot sign both agreements.
Glazyev, speaking on the sidelines of the discussion, said the exact opposite was true: "Ukrainian authorities make a huge mistake if they think that the Russian reaction will become neutral in a few years from now. This will not happen."
Instead, he said, signing the agreement would make the default of Ukraine inevitable and Moscow would not offer any helping hand. "Russia is the main creditor of Ukraine. Only with customs union with Russia can Ukraine balance its trade," he said. Russia has already slapped import restrictions on certain Ukrainian products and Glazyev did not rule out further sanctions if the agreement was signed.
The Kremlin aide added that the political and social cost of EU integration could also be high, and allowed for the possibility of separatist movements springing up in the Russian-speaking east and south of Ukraine. He suggested that if Ukraine signed the agreement, Russia would consider the bilateral treaty that delineates the countries' borders to be void.
"We don't want to use any kind of blackmail. This is a question for the Ukrainian people," said Glazyev. "But legally, signing this agreement about association with EU, the Ukrainian government violates the treaty on strategic partnership and friendship with Russia." When this happened, he said, Russia could no longer guarantee Ukraine's status as a state and could possibly intervene if pro-Russian regions of the country appealed directly to Moscow.
"Signing this treaty will lead to political and social unrest," said the Kremlin aide. "The living standard will decline dramatically … there will be chaos."
then the US and the other NATO countries put the money to work.
joining the eu was precurser to putting Nato on Putins doorstep
am I up on the banker run nato counties ( like obama and harper etc ) and their bogus never verified propaganda story ?
and how IS bidan's son doing with that oil concern he was handed
And fish don't swim....
I know in my heart that this video of John McCain fomenting is probably fake! Produced by those evil Ruskies.
Of cause NATO soldiers act in the Ukraine.