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Ayn Rand's Influence on the 21st Century

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posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 07:19 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Logarock

And you will find that in a sad way, we have Hitler's horrific abuses of humanity to thank for the US's turn away from fascism which is more or less another form of tyranny similar to banner that socialism operates under today.

All the world thought that fascism - private ownership run by the government in all other ways that mattered - was the wave of the future. Hitler and Mussolini were international rock stars before WWII broke out and the world started to get wind of their atrocities.

But at least the trains ran on time in Italy.




That game is still on or at least the desire to so wed the government into business that politicians still promise to bring capital around to serving the state if they cant have communism flat out.




posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 07:42 PM
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If you wouldn't mind telling me.....where did you receive your formal Marxist training?

My "Marxist TRAINING"????? You mean...my Marxist "KNOWLEDGE"?

My "formal SOCIAL WELFARE TRAINING" was at a major American university - a PUBLIC university - and it included not only Marxism, but today's political ideologies, and knowledge and understanding about the differences between ALL of the "parties" and their 'histories.'

Do you know who Jane Addams was?

You can disregard history and facts all you want. Nevertheless, this topic is something we all need to know about.

Why do you ask? So you can lambast me personally (for stupidity), or "modern education" (for being progressive indoctrination institutions), or "Obama, or Warren, or Sanders" (for being secular free-thinkers)......????

You go right ahead. Be my guest. I'm so used to this!
Hugs.



edit on 6/1/2015 by BuzzyWigs because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 08:54 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Its just that I rarely hear it so eloquently since I was at a public university. I call it Marxist University. It was bad to. One could hear about Marx in every class, every day and all day long. And no after 101 we didn't hear about any political philosophy other than Marx.



posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 09:40 PM
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And no after 101 we didn't hear about any political philosophy other than Marx.

Apparently you didn't major in LIberal Arts, or go on to 600-level classes.

So - you just closed your mind to it? I guess????
With only a beginner's introduction, you made up your mind....right?

Well - you missed a lot.

So - DO YOU know who Jane Addams was? Would you like me to post the link again?



posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 09:44 PM
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Not at my school. And I did take several 600 level classes and it was simply advanced progressivism. In fact thats were the Marxist professor told us all about how socialism, New Deal, Great Society, in the US was in bed with the big banks, how the government needed to confiscate money from old wealthy folks that didn't need it anyway ect.



posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 09:48 PM
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Not at my school. And I did take several 600 level classes and it was simply advanced progressivism.

So - you have an advanced degree in .... what? In what school or master's curriculum were you enrolled????

And, by the way, you didn't answer my question -
do you know who Jane Addams was?



posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 09:50 PM
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Political Science. And no I didn't close my mind so much as they had closed theirs. I would go to class with a copy of the federalist papers out in the open. One professor who was openly Marxist told me that Madison and Jefferson, ect were "irrelevant". So I was in the thick of it. Frankly the place was a Marxist indoctrination center. Big college to, well known.



posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 09:52 PM
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Jane sounds like a typical well to do kid on a guilt trip looking for a place to land.



posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 09:54 PM
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You have a Masters in Poli Sci and don't know who Jane Addams was? And you disdain Marxism?

I really don't understand........
I'd have thought you'd be more open-minded and thoughtful.



posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 09:55 PM
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a reply to: Logarock

So - you DON'T know who she is.
What about Mattie Rhodes? Do you know who she was?

Do you know about "Hull House"?



posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 09:55 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Jane Addams founder of Hull House, one of the early SJWs.



posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 09:55 PM
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And by the way, why are you Marxist so dam bossy and condescending? Oh someone just couldn't have gone to a liberal school and not bought in the party line.



posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 09:57 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

So, you are claiming that your piece of paper is better than my piece of paper or someone else's piece of paper? That's really all degrees are, you know, pieces of paper that stated you put up with some professors for the required amount of time.

Do you know who Afra Benn is?



posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 09:57 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs


Well look I tried to take the Marxist Feminist class but they wouldn't let males in without approval. No sh*t.



posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 09:57 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko



SJWs

I presume you mean Social Justice Workers.
Is that correct?

So, ket, what is your problem with her (if any)??



posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 10:01 PM
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I didn't say I did. I only stated facts about her to show you I knew who she was.

You made the assumption I had a problem with her.



posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 10:01 PM
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So, you are claiming that your piece of paper is better than my piece of paper or someone else's piece of paper?

Piece of paper???
Really?

No. I am claiming that an advanced education IN A CERTAIN FIELD is what it is.
I don't have a 'piece of paper' showing that I am an engineer - or a business administrator -

Good gawd.
Okay, you all carry on.



posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 10:03 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Logarock

You have a Masters in Poli Sci and don't know who Jane Addams was? And you disdain Marxism?

I really don't understand........
I'd have thought you'd be more open-minded and thoughtful.




Well when I realized that my political science education wouldn't include John Locke the writing was on the wall. I am sympathetic with reasons for early labor movements and really believe that the industrialists made it harder for themselves than they needed to but then I also understand what was at work behind the unions and what their goal was.



posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Yes, you are basically claiming that you are too qualified for all the rest of us to argue against you.



posted on Jun, 1 2015 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko


I didn't say I did. I only stated facts about her to show you I knew who she was.

You made the assumption I had a problem with her.

So ----

you don't have a problem with her?

Congrats that you know who she is! What is wrong with what she promoted, then?? Why is Ayn Rand 'the winner' in your estimation?
I just don't get that. Not at all.



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