originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: criticalhit
This is not about history, much of which is legend, but about international law. China, like Russia, is taking advantage of the fact that the United
States can no longer project power abroad. The American Empire has fallen and the vultures are swooping in. Those two wannabe superpowers better enjoy
their moment in the sun while they can. Twenty years from now everyone will be blaming them for everything that is wrong with the world, just as they
have been blaming America for the past fifty years and Britain before that.
You're right it's "not about history", there is no "legend" in this case just well kept documents written in a continuous language by a people that
drew equally as well kept maps and are sitting in the exact same spot the whole time...
China never went anywhere
It's amazing, the way westerners can be, even your "synopsis of history" is written from a pov of someone (not singling you out) who has trouble in a
real way with the issue...
as in... "in 20 years people will be looking at them"... No they wont
The US "Can't"... wrong we are just not going to be no 1, that's not an invasion or an inability to project power the fall of an empire even... it's
just no 2
"The vultures are swooping in" No they aren't lol...or well maybe they are for "The Philippines" which... again kind of doesn't real exist except on
paper as an invention of ours, or for Taiwan which again... is the Confederate Army in Puerto Rico lol... or Brunei... a Rich guys over sized
As an American with such a short culture to date...
I don't think you were raised to "see or feel it" and the assumptions are kind of goofy in regards to who is a "culture" or has an "actual history"
and is in it for the Long Haul
America is "Real" it will go up and down, expand, contract fight wars go on to reach even higher heights and lower lows and it will have a median
place it occupies over time, for example... even if the US breaks up for a time... everyone who isn't a nut will know the 13 colonies were ours the
people we displaced are for all intents and purposes never coming back...
Ditto for China
That's not the case for Brunei for the Philippines, Taiwan these aren't "cultures" of their own they are "inventions" borders drawn between the waxing
and waning of giants, the expansion and contraction of others creates them. Politics made flesh, no life of their own, no will of the people who would
readily drift away to elsewhere. America Breaths it's chest expanded all the way across the Pacific, China breathes it's Chest will stop inflating at
the edges of places like New Zealand maybe....
Taiwan is a piece of China where the US overlapped it and European Colonialism overlapped it, so is the Philippines for all intents and purposes China
is an ocean whose waves periodically wash over everything around it