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Tired of grand theories, just do what you want

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posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 03:12 AM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Caring happens - it is the 'who' that cares that is the illusion.
Writing happens, reading happens - the I that believes it does that is not!!

So, all this happens but no one cares, reads or writes?


Reading happens, writing happens, thoughts happen - there is no one doing any of it.



Why does nothing even bother?

It is a mystery.




posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 03:16 AM
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originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Reading happens, writing happens, thoughts happen - there is no one doing any of it.

Really?


It is a mystery.

Maybe you, sorry, nothing is wrong?



posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 03:19 AM
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Nothing is wrong - nothing is right.
It just is.
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posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 03:21 AM
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originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Nothing is wrong - nothing is right.
It just is.

It just is? I thought it wasn't.

Can it/nothing make up it's mind?



posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 03:22 AM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Nothing is wrong - nothing is right.
It just is.

It just is? I thought it wasn't.

Can it/nothing make up it's mind?

Nothing is happening - nothing appears to happen.



posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 03:31 AM
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originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Nothing is happening - nothing appears to happen.

So you can't really explain it?

C'est la vie.



posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 06:14 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Nothing is happening - nothing appears to happen.

So you can't really explain it?

C'est la vie.

How to explain this; there is another perspective viewpoint in the immediate experience understanding of: there is no past; no future, just the NOW. This experience on this planet as a human is not REAL (this is not what true reality is) it cannot be justified/quantified other than an amusement ride on a material planet and we are participating as incarnated physical paying riders. The astral is where our souls live and thrive, not in the physical. This experience is a game.
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posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: vethumanbeing

I know what itisnowagain is saying. I don't think he would agree with everything you posted. I usually just ignore his posts because they seem rather pointless to me. All he has is wordplay that sounds witty and profound but is pretty useless.



posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 06:46 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: vethumanbeing

I know what itisnowagain is saying. I don't think he would agree with everything you posted. I usually just ignore his posts because they seem rather pointless to me. All he has is wordplay that sounds witty and profound but is pretty useless.

Oh, I think he would (never had an argument yet). His wordplay could seem supercilious to some; he is just trying to make a point that really doesn't need explanation. Its a different approach is all; it does not resonate to me as being witty, profound or useless; just PROFOUND.



posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 06:54 PM
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a reply to: vethumanbeing

Meh, nobody cares.



posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 07:55 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: vethumanbeing

Meh, nobody cares.

I care deeply about you and those that contribute to an esoteric/abstraction that has defined itself as a forum for discussion.
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posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: vethumanbeing

daskakik: Then who cares?
Itisnowagain: No one.

So when he says it it is PROFOUND but when I say it I get a rebuttal.

His argument is useless because he makes no room for context. It's just circular logic. It's an abstract idea that sounds good but can never really be applied beyond the intellectual level.
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posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 08:54 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: vethumanbeing

daskakik: Then who cares?
Itisnowagain: No one.
So when he says it it is PROFOUND but when I say it I get a rebuttal.

His argument is useless because he makes no room for context. It's just circular logic. It's an abstract idea that sounds good but can never really be applied beyond the intellectual level.

I know its circular; it brings it back to you/me. I don't have a problem with this (rethinking the actual argument) is there one? It is about ones idea of 'reality' or existence. What are we experiencing. Esoteric yes and can be applied by you as you are experiencing the same thing I am. This Existence just in another place; but being able to speak to each other. There is something of a miracle happening here.



posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 09:10 PM
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originally posted by: vethumanbeing
I know its circular; it brings it back to you/me.

Circular logic means that it it uses itself to prove itself. Not that it comes back to anyone in particular.


I don't have a problem with this (rethinking the actual argument) is there one? It is about ones idea of 'reality' or existence. What are we experiencing. Esoteric yes and can be applied by you as you are experiencing the same thing I am. This Existence just in another place; but being able to speak to each other. There is something of a miracle happening here.

Something tells me that you are not really grasping the idea.



posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 09:23 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
originally posted by: vethumanbeing

vhb:I know its circular; it brings it back to you/me.


dask: Circular logic means that it it uses itself to prove itself. Not that it comes back to anyone in particular.

No, it means it has to revisit that experiment to prove it; and usually does revisit the same one until answered.

vhb: I don't have a problem with this (rethinking the actual argument) is there one? It is about ones idea of 'reality' or existence. What are we experiencing. Esoteric yes and can be applied by you as you are experiencing the same thing I am. This Existence just in another place; but being able to speak to each other. There is something of a miracle happening here.


dask: Something tells me that you are not really grasping the idea.

Which one? I have hundreds of questions that remain unanswered.
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posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 09:31 PM
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originally posted by: vethumanbeing
No, it means it has to revisit that experiment to prove it; and usually does revisit the same one until answered.

Don't know what you are going on about.

This is what I meant: Circular reasoning


Which one? I have hundreds of questions that remain unanswered.

itisnowagain's theory. That is where the discussion went.



posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 10:14 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: vethumanbeing
No, it means it has to revisit that experiment to prove it; and usually does revisit the same one until answered.

Don't know what you are going on about.

This is what I meant: Circular reasoning


Which one? I have hundreds of questions that remain unanswered.

itisnowagain's theory. That is where the discussion went.

Its not here. I cannot answer for it.



posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 10:30 PM
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Its not here. I cannot answer for it.


You tried to do it here: www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 10:40 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: vethumanbeing

Its not here. I cannot answer for it.


You tried to do it here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

This is my perspective not Itsnowagain's; so cannot answer for it but I stand by my own conviction. I know my truth is all; and share it; that does not mean anyone has to take it upon themselves as their truth. I am a gnostic and understand most would not understand this self realization. Thanks for the link sharing. I have an understanding of what I perceive to be real and not real is all.
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posted on Jul, 5 2015 @ 10:53 PM
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originally posted by: vethumanbeing
This is my perspective not Itsnowagain's; so cannot answer for it but I stand by my own conviction.

Did you follow the link? You walked into an exchange that itisnowagain and I were having and said that you would try to explain it.

When I called it useless you said it was profound. That is all we have been talking about today on this thread. Now you want to backtrack and act like you having nothing to say about it.



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