Is Mankind Going To Survive or Die Out

a reply to: bucsarg

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Yep. This is exactly my point. Thank you.
a reply to: FyreByrd

a reply to: bucsarg

Ever hear of "free-energy"?

Money/compensation becomes something we will trade in exchange for the energy given to a project not our own. Energy is only free, when those who expend it do so without the requirement of compensation. Because of this our energy is not free. I ask why there is not enough free energy to go around...

I will trade the energy I expend while doing a task for something as significant as the energy I am giving away…like food to replenish my energy.

Our current mindset is simply to take care of numero uno. Until other people matter to other people, nothing will change, and the sun will one day be gone like the people it sustained, (for free) once upon a time.

Excellent.!

a reply to: loveguy

originally posted by: bucsarg
Excellent.!

a reply to: loveguy

Thanks.

With 7.2 billion humans I doubt we'll die out completely unless we're faced with an absolutely global and catastrophic event of some kind that reaches all corners of the globe - heck, even then, we're a pretty resilient species and may find some way to persist through such a thing. I also personally don't buy the 'branching out into space' as the only thing that will save humanity on this planet - a kind of thinking that seems to imply that we don't have any other options. Taking our, IMO, militaristic and tribal mentality into space will just start the same problems on new planets with no new mindset to confront them and then we'll be writing these same threads about the same things, on the version of ATS we have on Mars or the moon or wherever we pretend we can go and start a new garden of Eden - sure, it would help ease the burden I believe, for a little while, but our root problems would still be present and lead to the same outcomes IMO.

originally posted by: KrakatoaIt has been shown over and over, that sex, violence, and suffering sells....and makes money (which is why we only see negative reporting from the MSM).

I just had to imagine a TV program: "and now for the tomatoes: our tomatoes have grown nice and red this summer. Next are the apple trees. They blossom nicely in pink and white. You can hear thousands of bees humming" ... bored viewer: "Aaaaarghh... get th f### off...!" *switches to action/porn/rape/slay/movie*

Of course your exaggerating but your point is well taken. And based on my present awareness of mankind I think this would probably happen. It's unfortunate.
a reply to: anotherdaytoday

I hope your correct! a reply to: Floydshayvious

a reply to: bucsarg

Hey look I'm replying to somebody for once! lol.

I spout a lot of potential nonsense and personal opinion here - for the sake of my own ego I hope I'm right too. But I don't HAVE to be.

I do think our numbers give us the best chance at overall survival. If we lived more closer to nature (clean(er) energy and all that) we'd have even better chances IMO. I do think we're our own biggest, most immediate, threat though. I kind of agree with Hawking's recent statement about human aggression being a BIG threat - we need to get that s t under control. But that takes me back to the whole tribal/individualistic 'us' versus 'them' mentality thing.

But you can't really talk about that with too many folks without being branded some kind of socialist like it's no different than being a pedophile or something lol.

we are sucking down resources faster in the last hundred or so years than the earth can replenish. We may not die out, but we are certainly heading rapidly towards a dramatic necessary shift in our lives. Either we get a serious global movement to colonization of planets, or we are going to end up not fully unlike a mad max film

But thats overall. not in the next 50 or so, but imagine if the ancient romans were using the resources as rapidly as we are today..what would today look like.

originally posted by: Floydshayvious
With 7.2 billion humans I doubt we'll die out completely unless we're faced with an absolutely global and catastrophic event of some kind that reaches all corners of the globe - heck, even then, we're a pretty resilient species and may find some way to persist through such a thing. I also personally don't buy the 'branching out into space' as the only thing that will save humanity on this planet - a kind of thinking that seems to imply that we don't have any other options. Taking our, IMO, militaristic and tribal mentality into space will just start the same problems on new planets with no new mindset to confront them and then we'll be writing these same threads about the same things, on the version of ATS we have on Mars or the moon or wherever we pretend we can go and start a new garden of Eden - sure, it would help ease the burden I believe, for a little while, but our root problems would still be present and lead to the same outcomes IMO.

You know anything about "Halo"?

That is the exact lesson in the books and background material.

Mankind developed the shaw-fikizoua(or something like that)drive.

Man was warring bottled up on earth.

Peace came as we spread out.

Until the colonies demanded autonomy from the core worlds.

The Spartans that saved humanity in the covenent war were bred to fight humans, a species much more cunning than the covenent.

a reply to: johnwick

Keanu you handsome SOB I knew you were on ATS somewhere! I have a worthless bachelor of science degree in game design so... no... not very much lol. Sitting in my moms basement pretending to be a philosopher for so long, I can't help but feel that way about space colonization - that's just my opinion. Maybe that will change someday. Maybe we'll start mucking around with DNA once religion calms down and it will go the way of Halo and super soldiers will save the universe or something... until then... I dunno... :\

originally posted by: wildapache
a reply to: randyvs

True....but Mankind survive thousands of years without any of the GOD(s).God(s) are merely a few thousands years old compare to how long homo sapiens survived on this blue dot of ours...

You are sadly mistaken with every thing you think you know.
nothing is "Ours". I'm surprized at you, considering your apparent
heritage.

99.9 percent of all species that have existed on Earth are extinct.

the math seems obvious...

Def got to get off earth to have any chance of not going extinct.

Q

I think it wise as well to populate other planets. It will give us a chance, statically, to keep our species alive.

a reply to: Quantum_Squirrel

In the Year 2525.......If Man is still alive........

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a reply to: bucsarg

Mankind will survive, as we have for at least 100,000 years (millions if you count other hominids). Our current civilizations may collapse though.

I agree on the need for a positive spin on things. There's a show on Al-Jazeera called "Earthrise" which is exactly what you're saying. It focuses on positive projects & initiatives from around the world. Here are links to their official site & youtube playlists for 3 of the seasons.
www.aljazeera.com...
www.youtube.com...

But you also have to realize that not every country focuses on negativity. That's part of our culture but many countries are very different. For example, we love horror movies, violent action films, haunted houses, violent/explicit music, games focused on killing, etc. It's so common here that we don't even think about it. But many other cultures openly reject those (many on religious grounds).

As an example, the vast majority of music I listen to from Africa is happy & positive, and would be considered "lame" in the US. And it's downright "scandalous" in most of their cultures if their actors & actresses show too much skin, much less are naked. But that's just a cultural thing. So I suspect that many casual viewers wouldn't pay attention to strictly positive news because they don't really want to see that stuff. And don't forget, you are on a "doom porn"/conspiracy theory website.

Is Mankind Going To Survive or Die Out

In my opinion, yes.

a reply to: Phage

LOL. Yes , to which one . Talk about your each way bet .