U.S. Intelligence Agencies you probably never heard of

6 agencies you may not be aware of or entirely what they do. More agencies than just the CIA perform espionage. The FBI became an intelligence agency officially in 2009. The state departments espionage apparatus and the counterintelligence beakdown. A few minutes of entertainment. Look up the 17 agencies, not the departments, and there are some interesting aspects about what they do.

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The hole is much much deeper .

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Good summary. Another interesting piece of fat to chew on - over 80% of all intelligence gathered by the US government and military is OSINT. What does that tell you?

The only solution to bureaucracy… is more bureaucracy.

Thats one of the reasons why they wrote the constitution. To limit government.

Thus the government has no natural or God-given powers; it has only whatever limited powers we (the people) choose to give it. The government is not all-powerful. It has no right to try to do more than we've explicitly authorized it to do. It is limited.

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Agencies filled with agents limit (we the people)s liberties, while permitting government to grow ever bigger.

While open source is a great way to obtain intelligence it is by no means 80%. That couldn't be quantified no matter how hard anyone tried. The FBI does use open source quite a bit but the other agencies collect through their classified programs, agents and sources. Of the 80% of the community that belongs to the DOD agencies like DIA, NSA don't use open source. Strictly clandestine operations and electronic surveillance respectively. Add the CIA into that mix and you blow 80% away with non-open source just due to the size and manpower of those agencies. a reply to: CIAGypsy

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And yet as long as 'we the people' grow increasingly disengaged about enforcing our civil liberties, the more an over-reaching government will ensure they slip away.

originally posted by: bonecrusher321
While open source is a great way to obtain intelligence it is by no means 80%. That couldn't be quantified no matter how hard anyone tried. The FBI does use open source quite a bit but the other agencies collect through their classified programs, agents and sources. Of the 80% of the community that belongs to the DOD agencies like DIA, NSA don't use open source. Strictly clandestine operations and electronic surveillance respectively. Add the CIA into that mix and you blow 80% away with non-open source just due to the size and manpower of those agencies. a reply to: CIAGypsy

You are correct that it can't be quantified, but that percentage was given during an internal presentation of one of those intelligence agencies within your video. Given the volume of information that can now be gleaned from the internet (even through 'backdoors'), I believe it is accurate. You're welcome to a different opinion.

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Good thread!

I've heard of these agencies and have had them on my watch list for some time.

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And yet as long as 'we the people' grow increasingly disengaged about enforcing our civil liberties, the more an over-reaching government will ensure they slip away.

To a point. The point at which endless greed, war and control become so burdensome, people react.

It has to reach that point, has always reached that point (google ruins) in the past. My point was enlighten people to their rights under the law.

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: CIAGypsy
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And yet as long as 'we the people' grow increasingly disengaged about enforcing our civil liberties, the more an over-reaching government will ensure they slip away.

To a point. The point at which endless greed, war and control become so burdensome, people react.

It has to reach that point, has always reached that point (google ruins) in the past. My point was enlighten people to their rights under the law.

I believe that our freedoms will never be regained by those who had them and let them slip away. They will only be won by those who have never had them and fight to win them.

originally posted by: CIAGypsy

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: CIAGypsy
a reply to: intrptr

And yet as long as 'we the people' grow increasingly disengaged about enforcing our civil liberties, the more an over-reaching government will ensure they slip away.

To a point. The point at which endless greed, war and control become so burdensome, people react.

It has to reach that point, has always reached that point (google ruins) in the past. My point was enlighten people to their rights under the law.

I believe that our freedoms will never be regained by those who had them and let them slip away. They will only be won by those who have never had them and fight to win them.

New generation kind of thing? The one growing up has the internet advantage instead of the one way, top down, TV, radio and newspapers we did. We didn't let it slip away, they duped us out of it.

That revolt is going to make Occupy look like a picnic.

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: CIAGypsy

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: CIAGypsy
a reply to: intrptr

And yet as long as 'we the people' grow increasingly disengaged about enforcing our civil liberties, the more an over-reaching government will ensure they slip away.

To a point. The point at which endless greed, war and control become so burdensome, people react.

It has to reach that point, has always reached that point (google ruins) in the past. My point was enlighten people to their rights under the law.

I believe that our freedoms will never be regained by those who had them and let them slip away. They will only be won by those who have never had them and fight to win them.

New generation kind of thing? The one growing up has the internet advantage instead of the one way, top down, TV, radio and newspapers we did. We didn't let it slip away, they duped us out of it.

That revolt is going to make Occupy look like a picnic.

I would truly love it if you are correct, but the complacency of society has been systemic.

originally posted by: CIAGypsy

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: CIAGypsy

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: CIAGypsy
a reply to: intrptr

And yet as long as 'we the people' grow increasingly disengaged about enforcing our civil liberties, the more an over-reaching government will ensure they slip away.

To a point. The point at which endless greed, war and control become so burdensome, people react.

It has to reach that point, has always reached that point (google ruins) in the past. My point was enlighten people to their rights under the law.

I believe that our freedoms will never be regained by those who had them and let them slip away. They will only be won by those who have never had them and fight to win them.

New generation kind of thing? The one growing up has the internet advantage instead of the one way, top down, TV, radio and newspapers we did. We didn't let it slip away, they duped us out of it.

That revolt is going to make Occupy look like a picnic.

I would truly love it if you are correct, but the complacency of society has been systemic.

Hunger, endless war and poverty sharpen dull minds.

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no ever knows micecp ... they small getting smaller but do some important stuff.

The statement within the video is that 80% belng to the DOD. a reply to: CIAGypsy

originally posted by: bonecrusher321
The statement within the video is that 80% belng to the DOD. a reply to: CIAGypsy

I think you misunderstood my comments, mon ami. I believe the stats I was referring to indicated that 80% of the data collected for intelligence was gathered through OSINT avenues of various means. This is not to say that the data gathering or personnel didn't take place under a classified program.

Nothing I didn't know, except the whole budget deal with the ODNI vs. the combined Military Intelligence agencies. This is rather insane (assuming it's true). I mean, that is a LOT of damn money, so where is it going? (and who are the folks moving it?).

I assume this is the funding that goes to do things like paying Un (in North Korea) off when we want him to stop sabre rattling, etc.