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originally posted by: pthena
a reply to: windword
Christianity was developing before Jesus of Nazareth was a twinkle in his father's eye. In fact, Christianity never even needed Jesus of Nazareth to perpetuate it's philosophy.
I certainly agree. But there were variations beyond mystery schools. Read up on Psalms of Solomon. That was where "Son of David" language comes in. The new king to come to Jerusalem, and rule the world from there. That sort of, but not quite completely, was discarded after Jerusalem unexpectedly got destroyed.
Just proves my point, so many contradictions, that it's obvious those who wrote it just copied various existing philosophies and put them together in the worst way possible. Imagine today someone makes a religion using quotes from Islam, Buddhism, Scientology and Mormonism randomly together to push some political propaganda... Imo christianity was created in a very similar way... It didn't started Holy and then started to decline. It actually started way worse than it is today...
Come on you despicable heathen Atheist you really believe this tripe!This is all very simple.Christianity was created by Christians.Not Yahoshua nor the disciples.All this nonsense about Yahoshua or the disciples being Essenes or Gnostics is foppish foolishness.
Yahoshua was not teaching religion he was sowing the seeds of it’s destruction.It doesn’t matter “how” long it takes to destroy it will be destroyed.
There is only one qualification for being a Christian..Believing you are a Christian!!They may as well believe they are Martians for all the truth there is in Christianity.
originally posted by: Dr1Akula
...but how about the gospels that didn't make it to the holy book?
The bible was written in today's form, hundreds of years after the apostles. Where the church chose between the available gospels!!!
(list of excluded gospels)
And Yet somehow christians believe the NT is the exact and only word of Jesus ignoring all the above!
originally posted by: cooperton
Christianity is what Jesus said, nothing more, nothing less.
Christianity[note 1] is an Abrahamic, monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus as presented in the New Testament. Christianity is the world's largest religion, with about 2.2 billion adherents,[unreliable source?] known as Christians.[note 2] Christians believe that Jesus is the Son of God, fully divine and fully human, and the savior of humanity whose coming as Christ or the Messiah was prophesied in the Old Testament.
The three primary divisions of Christianity are Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, and Protestantism. There are other Christian groups that do not fit neatly into one of these primary categories. The Nicene Creed is "accepted as authoritative by the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, and major Protestant churches."
There is a diversity of doctrines and practices among groups calling themselves Christian. These groups are sometimes classified under denominations, though for theological reasons many groups reject this classification system. A broader distinction that is sometimes drawn is between Eastern Christianity and Western Christianity, which has its origins in the East–West Schism (Great Schism) of the 11th century.
Most Protestant traditions branch out from the Reformed tradition in some way. In addition to the Lutheran and Reformed branches of the Reformation, there is Anglicanism after the English Reformation. The Anabaptist tradition was largely ostracized by the other Protestant parties at the time, but has achieved a measure of affirmation in more recent history.
As well as these modern divisions, there were many diverse Christian communities with wildly different Christologies, eschatologies, soteriologies, and cosmologies that existed alongside the "Early Church" which is itself a projected concept to indicate which communities were "proto-orthodox", in that their views would become dominate. In many ways, the first three centuries of Christianity was significantly more diverse than the modern Church.
originally posted by: cooperton
Regardless, I believe the search is within, and any holy text is meant to catalyze your inner search for the truth.
When 14-year-old Giorgi came home from school on 16 October 2014 in Tbilisi, Georgia, his older brother Dato knew immediately something was wrong. Bruised and battered, Giorgi described how four older boys took turns kicking him in front of other schoolmates. "This wasn't just a boys' fight," Dato says.
Giorgi was beaten because he had called himself an atheist.
Rights groups say this is just one example of growing religious intolerance in Georgia's state schools, fostered by what they say is a campaign of indoctrination encouraged by the country's Orthodox Church.
"They told me: 'You offend our religion, you are an infidel,'" Giorgi says. The school principal confirmed the story, but said the issue has been resolved.
But the brothers, who didn't want their last name used, say the intimidation has continued, and they are angry the perpetrators have not been punished. The only alternative school is private, they say, and their parents can't afford it.
originally posted by: Barcs
a reply to: cooperton
I still don't get why you are separating Catholics from Christians. I appreciate if you could answer this and check out my post on the previous page.
originally posted by: cooperton
All adherent Catholics are fringe Christians.
Sabbath is supposed to be on the 7th day, Saturday, but they celebrate on Sunday.
All adherent Catholics are not supposed to consider gnostic gospels as the word of God, yet in my opinion the gnostic gospels reflect the ideals expressed in "orthodox" gospel with supplemental information.
These are just a couple examples. I also think the Nicene Creed is missing THE MAJOR aspect of what Christianity is all about: that we are meant to mimic the life of Christ, and do as he DID. Not just sit in a church and idly await his return.
Many people hold the belief that the bible was meant to control the people. I am not saying it has not been used for this purpose, but the true intention of the Bible could not have been as a mode of control.
This is incorrect .The "new testament" was written in Koine Greek not Aramaic.
originally posted by: maes2
What was the motive behind Judaism ?
Jews are mistranslating Bible and controlling Vatican, do not you see !?
The language of old testament is Hebrew and the language of new testament is Aramaic not English.
The Evangelical Christianity is devoted to Jews. USA is devoted to Jews.
If you have no religion, if your head is in the snow, if you have closed your eyes, but those corrupted people among Jews have religion.
They even suppress the sound of protests of the righteous Jews.