What was the Motive of Christianity?

a reply to: randyvs

I've seen nothing offered that makes more sense.

Yes you have, your shades blind you..

Most probable scenario; Christianity was hijacked in its early forming era. The coup has been at controlling the masses, and I highly doubt those in yhe Vatican actually belive Jesus and the bible behind closed doors.

What does it matter.. 2.5 billion shadows, I mean followers. Following dark men who are clearly in on controlling, manipulating the masses.

The Vatican is vacant of Christ spirit.

a reply to: randyvs

Why make such an obviously false statement? False because you
haven't been on the planet long enough and can't see into the
future far enough, to have the knowledge it takes, to make such
a statement.

because athena told me last night while she and odin were having drinks at my place. you gonna argue with her? i wouldnt recommend it, she got pretty nasty with quetzlcoatl and all he did was drop a feather in her brew. pretty strong stuff, that dionysus knows his business.

a reply to: randyvs

False because you haven't been on the planet long enough and can't see into the future far enough, to have the knowledge it takes, to make such a statement.

Try me.. I'll cut off both your wings on principle alone.

a reply to: flyingfish

Yes you have, your shades blind you..

Oh really? What arrogance! Tell me what I've seen in a chidish way
without even backing it up one bit? That's so scientific and really
should be your icon of intelligence.

Yes you have, you're more of it!

For reals?

Try me.. I'll cut off both your wings on principle alone.

I'm sorry you're lonely.

No interest in your tasteless crap video either.

a reply to: randyvs



Don't be such a mindless zealot. Are you denying your "belief" has been shown to be in error, or flat out wrong?
Your denial of evidence is not evidence, it's just laughably and demonstrably wrong.
Do you have evidence (other than religious belief) that you can share with us? Do you have any evidence that your belief describes anything approximating reality?

a reply to: randyvs

No interest in your tasteless crap video either

clearly, your spirituality is doing you all kinds of good. just look at that compassion.

a reply to: flyingfish

My premise is that you put your cards on the table. Instead of
holding fast to such a weak advantage. Atheist? You know that won't
do at all. Evolution ? Just the belief that coincidence, on top of coincidence
to the tenth power doesn't add up to beyond a miracle. Might as well be atheist.
Am I close tuff guy?

a reply to: TzarChasm

Well if this is about me why shouldn't I voice my interests?

originally posted by: randyvs
That's impossible but at the same time can't begin
to offer any thoughts of where we come from, our current condition
and ultimate destiny.

Not true. Plenty have offered many upon many thoughts about our origin, our current position, the how's why's and maybe's for what reality is multiple times over and from every possible angle and variety. If you really think they haven't then it's because you haven't taking even a single minute out of your life to listen to any of it, which is you're doing and not theirs.

What makes you think we have an ultimate destiny either??? I'll tell you what you're ultimate destiny is and it's the same as everyone else. You're death. Just like billions before you and who knows how many after you. Past that it's anyone's guess. Believe what you want, it doesn't matter, if you claim to "know" what is past that, you're lying just like everyone else who said they "knew".

Just, Oh we've always been here cuz, we'll always be here with really
no reason for us being here. Even tho the boundless coincidences
alone that were hurdled for us to be here. Would add to more appropriated
disbelief, than just believing in God in the first place. So sorry but deity,
really is the most believable. I've seen nothing offered that makes more sense.

Sure, believing in one specific God while denying the countless ones who've come before or after regardless of the fact there is Zero evidence which you can show for such a God or any other spiritual being or miracle or anything at all is the more "believable" choice, huh??? You can't show one shred of proof for any deity at all let alone your deity and neither can anyone else. The best you have is assumption and guesswork that if it hasn't already been shown to be incorrect will be in do time just like all the other guesses and assumptions. Yet that you say makes the most sense. That makes NO SENSE at all. Neither logical, reasonable or sensible. It's all Faith and that's it.

a reply to: mOjOm

Not true. Plenty have offered many upon many thoughts about our origin, our current position, the how's why's and maybe's for what reality is multiple times over and from every possible angle and variety.

What no links? You're full of yourself!

a reply to: randyvs

You want links??? Maybe try Abovetopsecret Forums under the title of "Conspiracy of Religion" or "Origins" for a start. No link needed since you're already here. There should be more than enough material there to start.

If you finish that, try Google. Just type in Origin of the Universe. Origin of Man.

I mean are you kidding me??? You're drowning in an ocean and you're asking me for a glass of water....

a reply to: randyvs

My premise is that you put your cards on the table. Instead of holding fast to such a weak advantage.

Weak eh?

Atheist? You know that won't do at all.

Not for me.. I'm agnostic.

Evolution ? Just the belief that coincidence, on top of coincidence to the tenth power doesn't add up to beyond a miracle.

You have been presented with a lot of evidence, you are just attempting to hand-wave it away as coincidence, as if that would make it go away. It doesn't. Besides, we are talking about unevidenced claims, evolution has evidence, you don't seem to have any for your miracle.
And by the way, evolution is not a belief system, it's a word describing a natural, observable process.

Might as well be atheist.

Yep.. Your almost there, just one god away.

Am I close tuff guy?

Nope.. But keep learning, asking questions and maybe some day.

Please answere the questions in this post.. www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: flyingfish

Agnostic the IDK belief system. but I can still tell everyone
else what isn't true as if I do know?

I'm cool with the admittance that you haven't got the first clue.
As long as you remain seated quietly until you're ready to step up.

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: TzarChasm

Well if this is about me why shouldn't I voice my interests?

its about the motives of christians so i guess that sort of qualifies.

a reply to: mOjOm

All just crap that makes no sense at all spiritually.

Here let me make it perfectly clear.

Something that makes more sense.

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: mOjOm

All just crap that makes no sense at all spitually.

Here let me make it perfectly clear.

Something that makes more sense.

spirituality and reason keep little company these days.

its actually love and reason, but spirituality and love are both unreasonable.

a reply to: TzarChasm

I would agree but they do have reason.

originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: TzarChasm

I would agree but they do have reason.

no. they have cause, not reason.

a reply to: flyingfish

Weak enough!



Gawd lets just all agree to disperse from this thread.
I'll go first only in the interest of a2d.