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'Anti Sharia Law' Measure Passes Texas Senate

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posted on May, 24 2015 @ 12:35 AM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

I respect your point but you have every right to say or believe what you want. We may disagree but thats okay.




I respect your beliefs and they are good for you . But they are not for me. I will fight for your right to that belief . I expect the same from you. And I dont care if you are black brown yellow red or white. I feel if your an American we are bound by country and should fight for each other.

I feel much of the academia is fostering divisions between us.

Good bantering





posted on May, 24 2015 @ 01:21 AM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

I agree with it may be semantics.

There are problems running deep in the US and the fear mongering is taking its toll.

I have a confusion how I interacted with muslim families 40 years ago and how they act to me today I just loved my neighbors there were 10 families of a Islamic sect in the 60s ,70s, 80s some were good friends they moved away . The new families have no use for me outside of strict business their business its basically pay and get out dont ask how Im doing. When they come to my families business a man has to wait on them the regular check out girls wont do. If these were all I ever had know I would think they are all that way. But thats not reality.

Some people thats all they see the news clips of the middle east falling apart 911 ect. Accident or by design ? Many never get a true picture.

Take care



posted on May, 24 2015 @ 04:48 AM
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a reply to: Lostinthedarkness

You typed a lot so I'm not really sure what to reply to (not like I can talk lol). I will say thanks for the post about mutual respect though. And yeah, it's hard to get people to see the truth if they only see the stereotypes on tv. Then again, they have to want to see the truth.

Ok, I'll start with the post about the Muslim families. Muslims are just people. We're not angels or demons, superior or inferior. Just people. We eat & sleep, laugh & cry just like everyone else. So just as you wouldn't expect all people of any other group to act a single way, you can't expect that from us either. The new families may be new to the country or simply new to the area & may not know the local culture. Or may come from a faster lifestyle like New York or London, so they're not used to small talk. Or some of them may just be jerks (like any other demographic).

Also, you've gotta realize that there are at least 1.6 BILLION Muslims globally, and that's a conservative estimate. There are many different cultures, languages, and interpretations, as well as many different ethnic groups in Muslim regions. And just like with Christianity, not all of us get along or even accept each other as fellow believers. Some cultures may be racist towards others, regardless of them also being Muslims. And some may treat women differently, strangers differently, guests differently, etc. [For example, my family & I have had exchanges with some other Muslims that didn't accept African Americans or other "black" people as Muslims, even though racism is nowhere in the Qur'an.]

Right now, many Muslim countries have women's rights protests and protest movements over politics, rights & wages. But that never gets shown in the US unless it benefits US foreign policy (remember the "Arab Spring" and "Green Revolution" in Iran?). So yeah, there are some Muslim men who are misogynists, just as there are misogynists in all cultures. Though in some cultures, women are treated as exclusive & male strangers aren't supposed to interact w/them without familial approval. This isn't exclusive to Muslims, either.

As for the OP: The funny thing is people here should be glad we're following our laws, if only they knew. Our laws are strictly against us drinking alcohol, against stealing/robbing, killing except in self defense, lying, starting conflicts, and committing suicide. And we must accept peace offers, must repay our debts, must treat animals humanely, are commanded to seek knowledge then act on it, women are given the rights to inheritance & to divorce, and divorced women are guaranteed alimony & child support (I think until she gets re-married). We're even required to pay charity in 2 separate forms, though some schools of thought try to limit how much they're required to pay. Oh course, not all Muslims follow this, just like how not all Christians follow everything in the Bible.

I'd love to comment on the history part but I don't think we'll agree on that. I think we'd both keep going in circles & I'm not sure if we'd want to re-read that. May peace be with you though



posted on May, 24 2015 @ 11:42 AM
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a reply to: buster2010It is easy to give proof that in America we have allowed Muslim community to rule itself. Dearborn, MI has a 45% Muslim community with a no- go zone. I am sure Texan's want to make sure that does not happen there.

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posted on May, 24 2015 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: Ceeker63

Are you really go to try and say that it is a no go zone?

The claim they have them in France was already debunked and shown as untrue.
I am willing to be you couldn't prove this one either outside of those far right websites.


Save me the video of the people going to a festival and provoking people to prove the point.



posted on May, 24 2015 @ 05:52 PM
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Thank God for Texas!!! If only the entire country emulated their American, grass-roots and core values...we would have our country back from the liberal progressive pricks that continue their attempts to destroy everything that has made America great. They should be jailed and their leaders hung.

I'm gonna make a plan and see if I can move to Texas. The only remaining land of the free and home of the brave.



posted on May, 25 2015 @ 10:13 PM
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originally posted by: damwel
Oh I'm so scared, the Muslims are taking over.


But, but.. isn't that what people were saying when 9-11 happened? Now it's flip flopped completely and everyone is saying the opposite, do you have any idea why?



posted on May, 25 2015 @ 10:15 PM
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a reply to: awareness10

please explain further



posted on May, 25 2015 @ 10:26 PM
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originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: awareness10

please explain further


After 9-11 People were afraid of a 'jihad' invasion. That's what i'm trying to convey here. Fear of that was purposely imbedded in the American psyche via Media. In fact i remember watching the telly when it happened and listening to a reporter ask a Citizen if they'd be willing to give up freedom for safety via the American Gov't. and the inspontaneous answer given via the Citizen being asked was a most definate, 'Absolutely Yes i would!' which really stunned me at the time because i began to see what was going on, why this happened and has continued since.



posted on May, 25 2015 @ 10:37 PM
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a reply to: awareness10

No doubt propaganda runs deep... I real enemy does exist though, I've seen it. Just because propaganda exists doesn't preclude an existing enemy either. It does however require you to use good judgement on how to react and what you ingest; when being told something "important" by someone in an positions of authority.
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posted on May, 25 2015 @ 11:15 PM
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originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: awareness10

No doubt propaganda runs deep... I real enemy does exist though, I've seen it. Just because propaganda exists doesn't preclude an existing enemy either. It does however require you to use good judgement on how to react and what you ingest; when being told something "important" by someone in an positions of authority.


Yes it does. But i guess what i was trying to say was, It is 'programming' people to be afraid of what they believe is 'the enemy and gigantic threat to the people' which in many minds during 9-11 would have been anyone with the 'appearance of jihad/muslim arab etc etc. and to see it evolve to now, how they have since then, made people feel stupid or hateful and angry towards the same group they initially brainwashed the public into fearing is nothing more than programming 101.

Now we have a world that is so divided than it's ever been since that time when the towers fell, that people no longer know what or who to believe. Everyone is on edge and no one trusts anyone. Thats just what i feel about the entire scenario.



posted on May, 25 2015 @ 11:18 PM
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a reply to: awareness10

agreed ma'am, however the dividing lines have been drawn and the chicken and the egg serves us no purpose. Where do you stand?
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posted on May, 25 2015 @ 11:23 PM
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originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: awareness10

agreed ma'am, however the dividing lines have been drawn and the chicken and the egg serves us no purpose. Where do you stand?


Where do i stand? I stand outside the Chaos created by this world, this place. I refuse to attach myself to it, i am simply an observer here.



posted on May, 25 2015 @ 11:27 PM
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a reply to: awareness10

Sweetheart, while i respect lovers of the light, and the champions of love. I understand these things have to be protected at any cost. There are people who would take these ideals and rip them to shred given the chance, this is not fear based this is a reality. Ma'am who was it who said,"if you choose not to choose you've still made a choice"? Im not picking at you, and i understand where your coming from.



posted on May, 26 2015 @ 12:00 AM
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originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: awareness10

Sweetheart, while i respect lovers of the light, and the champions of love. I understand these things have to be protected at any cost. There are people who would take these ideals and rip them to shred given the chance, this is not fear based this is a reality. Ma'am who was it who said,"if you choose not to choose you've still made a choice"? Im not picking at you, and i understand where your coming from.


Ok.. My view of Reality and Your view of Reality are probably two completely different things. A champion of light and love isn't really one of them as i see the light here in this non reality anything but real. And love .. Did you know the Japanese don't even have a word for love? It's quite interesting really, i mean they have different ways of saying it or conveying it but the word love no. Interesting as Love is Evol backwards. (as for the choosing not to choose is still making a choice, well that is dependant on a persons belief system and several other things. If you believe the world is truly real, then you have to believe in the science behind it, i however believe differently and do not believe in this place the same way you do. So it no longer applies to me.

And words here have energy and energy creates what this world is based on which is anything but truth. So you see, you and i probably couldn't converse very long without us disagreeing with just about everything. But that's totally ok, I don't mind i enjoyed your post it was pleasant and heartfelt, and i am not trying to be sarcastic in any way just so you know that.
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posted on May, 26 2015 @ 01:53 AM
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I think the original idea was more of a precautionary idea, the reason being that here in the UK and I've heard rumblings in the American courts that its 'inevitable' that Sharia will integrate with our laws.

Can I say that this would render the whole law system corrupt as it would dismantle basic blocks like free speech and democracy, our cultural and law pivots would be smashed. Sharia is a very destructive law system, just look at countries who live under it, not only is every part of life based upon corruption but most of these places live under constant war and troubles because Muslim factions cannot live with each other, both attempting to promote their version of Sharia. Corruption goes on in our countries but in 'general' the overall quality of living is way above these Sharia based countries.

And as an end note, these Sharia courts we allow to convene in the UK and US (yes you DO have them in the US, just research and look at Dearborn etc) actually give the women even LESS fair treatment than they would in their own countries, the Male control is actually turned UP to make sure women are not getting too Westernised)

All we don't have are the stoning and the lashings......yet...


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posted on May, 26 2015 @ 02:02 AM
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a reply to: Mclaneinc

There is no sharia courts in Dearborne or anywhere else in the nation.

There might be religious councils, that families will go to and solve issues but those are not courts and every religion has them in the states.

Stop being told and find out for your self.



posted on May, 26 2015 @ 02:40 AM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

why don't you! they are invaders, they need to leave there customs that don't coincide with our laws at the doors!



posted on May, 26 2015 @ 08:51 AM
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Hey, Dude, just because I don't agree with your 'thinking' doesn't mean I'm troll, even if you do Star your own post. I really wouldn't give 2 craps about you, to be honest. Rave on. But do me a favor, stay in Texas, OK? I'll bet you fit in real well there.

a reply to: BlessedLore



posted on May, 26 2015 @ 09:13 AM
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originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: Sremmos80

why don't you! they are invaders, they need to leave there customs that don't coincide with our laws at the doors!

I agree with you. Whatever others believe and regardless how peaceful they wish to be, even God had an army as do all the "good" peoples of the world and history. You can't simply remove yourself from a "war" because you won't participate. This is an enemy that doesn't care if you raise your hands to surrender...you remain the enemy.

I also would LOVE to be able to live in a world where peace, love and light is the undisputed rule. But that world has never been here and won't be for as long as humanity is around. There isn't evil in nature nor the animal kingdom. Just survival and prey. Humans are different. We incorporate evil among us and if you truly want peace, love and light...you must be willing to either destroy the evil...or live with it.

Or lay down and die. Your choice.




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