a reply to: timequake
You assert a superiority in understanding. This is the norm for a libertarian. Admitting to an ignorance of any sort would undermine the entire
argument for independence for then you would not KNOW how to proceed.
Imposition is the way of the UNIVERSE. Go into the Arctic in November and pick strawberries. I dare you. You can not impose your will to find them.
You are a weak, small being with a want. Yet, if you are on a base maintained by a global society, if worse comes to worse, you get strawberry ice
When your constitutional requirements (pun, only a pun) truly demand a response to preserve yourself, I don't see that as anything else but a
constraint on your 'totally' free being.
What most of the 'libertarians' express is that they are supreme in making judgements at to how best to meet the requirements of the Universe.
Since there are no means for ANYONE to achieve complete knowledge of everything, this sentiment fails.
The group mind and it's specialists have a far greater chance of succeeding in a Universe that consistently demonstrates hostility, associations that
do NOT like you (foreign and domestic governments, e.g.) and pathogens of various stripes. You are not able to understand all of the intricacies, what
to accept, what to avoid. Making correct decisions promptly from readily obtainable facts is directly related to your survival. Gaining that
information and on how to make good decisions requires the action of society. Without the support of society libertarians would eventually run out of
materials, both intellectual and physical, and be unable to follow their whims.
A Darwinian exercise?
During this pre-death experience, libertarians avow their need to proceed down their individual path doing as they wish because of their 'right' to
act in this manner. In truth, I would prefer that society abandon them to their devices. Abject lessons once learned, I would send all of them to the
cave that the Japanese dude defended for thirty years for a sojourn of understanding what true isolation is.
The normal response to this 'isolate' comment is that libertarians want everything that they can obtain from a society prior to withdrawal and later
select the tidbits that yet entice them. Then they tell us about they still possess consciences and they really aren't egoistic three Y/Os.
Libertarians are BS and of self directed uselessness. Like the Elite collecting tax breaks, libertarians want it all with no cost to them.
While I understand the need to provide for oneself, I have no comprehension of the endless needs expressed by folks who think that opting out of all
of societal rules and retaining all of the privileges is the only fair way to treat them.
Libertarianism is an intellectual construct that has never proved successful in the modern world. Humans bond. It's what we do. In ever larger groups
and with ever more connectivity. It's human. What libertarians propose is some sort of Eden of choices. What it would be is endless effing work
replicating what is easily obtained through the societal linkages.