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USA! USA! USA! Calling all 'Patriots'!

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posted on May, 21 2015 @ 04:14 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: humanityrising


People don't think the US is perfect. They don't think the US government is infallible. They think the US as a whole is a force for good, while admitting tragic mistakes are indeed made.


Ok. And on the flip side of the coin(and the planet), there are people who's families, friends, and villages were demolished by these 'tragic mistakes', and have real reason to hate this country. Can you not understand that?

It appears my OP might have struck a chord with you. I assume this is because you're in the 'if you're not for 'murica you're against 'murica' camp.




posted on May, 21 2015 @ 04:14 AM
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originally posted by: humanityrising

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: and14263

His OP is crap. Show me these posts where people claim the US never has and simply can not do anything wrong, ever.


You're missing the point entirely. I stated my intention clearly - that many who hate America have legitimate reasons to.

You exemplify Occam's Razor to the fullest; oversimplifying complicated issues that can't be quantified with a yes or a no. You haven't really even brought a viewpoint to the table, just hurled stones. What is your opinion of the matter?

I brought my viewpoint. You lied and created a false narrative that does not exist.

So what magic country has never done any wrong that should not be hated?



posted on May, 21 2015 @ 04:19 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I took it as more of a dig at patriotism, which is a tool to control the masses. Move along if it's annoying you. Life's too short.



posted on May, 21 2015 @ 04:34 AM
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originally posted by: khnum
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...there is no nation on earth that you would give a sainthood.


No but most countrys dont claim saint hood like the USA.



posted on May, 21 2015 @ 04:34 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
originally posted by: humanityrising
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: and14263

I brought my viewpoint. You lied and created a false narrative that does not exist.


I'm sorry, what is your viewpoint other than that mine is wrong. Care to contribute?



So what magic country has never done any wrong that should not be hated?


It seems you are not understanding the OP. (Or choosing not to)



posted on May, 21 2015 @ 04:49 AM
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a reply to: humanityrising

Brother

Why are you talking about US massacres that happens so long ago.

Ever heard of 9/11 ?

Ever heard of building 7 ?



posted on May, 21 2015 @ 04:49 AM
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a reply to: humanityrising

Brother

Why are you talking about US massacres that happens so long ago.

Ever heard of 9/11 ?

Ever heard of building 7 ?



posted on May, 21 2015 @ 04:51 AM
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originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I took it as more of a dig at patriotism, which is a tool to control the masses. Move along if it's annoying you. Life's too short.

Except he already said that was not his point. He replied to me with exactly what his point was, and it's not that. Your point I agree with.



posted on May, 21 2015 @ 04:52 AM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: khnum
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...there is no nation on earth that you would give a sainthood.


No but most countrys dont claim saint hood like the USA.

Is it in the Constitution? I don't recall the US proclaiming Saint Hood.



posted on May, 21 2015 @ 04:52 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: and14263

His OP is crap. Show me these posts where people claim the US never has and simply can not do anything wrong, ever.

I am waiting for the deluge.


I think your post is crap,

Read my post on 9/11, which I am sure you think is crap.



posted on May, 21 2015 @ 04:53 AM
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originally posted by: humanityrising

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
originally posted by: humanityrising
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: and14263

I brought my viewpoint. You lied and created a false narrative that does not exist.


I'm sorry, what is your viewpoint other than that mine is wrong. Care to contribute?



So what magic country has never done any wrong that should not be hated?


It seems you are not understanding the OP. (Or choosing not to)

I made my point clear, you can go back in time and find atrocities committed by every people under the Sun. So everyone is evil by your method.

You are biased and only factor in the negative and not the positive.

I made my point clear, you simply refuse to respond.



posted on May, 21 2015 @ 04:58 AM
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a reply to: Aboveway

Yes of course, but I just recently learned of My Lai and it got me fired up enough to start a thread for people like Occam.



posted on May, 21 2015 @ 05:04 AM
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a reply to: humanityrising

So your premise is, that a bunch of drugged out kids that were thrown in the middle of hell against their will acted badly?

Why not just say that instead.

BTW that is nothing compared to many other nations.

America ain't perfect, but its better than any of the others.
edit on 21-5-2015 by johnwick because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 21 2015 @ 05:10 AM
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originally posted by: NthOther
Well...

"... the actions of a few can't be ascribed to the whole."

"... look at what good we've done elsewhere. Balances everything out."

"... no one's perfect. Comparatively, the US isn't as evil as other countries."

"... yeah, but that was a long time ago. I had nothing to do with it."

Pick your excuse. Did I miss any?


Why do I need an excuse, I was involved in none if that?

Seems you want to blame me for things my father or his father did.

Except, neither of them did it either.

I'm the only person in generations of my family to have served.

How about you try some therapy for your obsession with hating america.

And obsession with blaming the innocent for acts committed before they were even born.



posted on May, 21 2015 @ 05:11 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: humanityrising

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
originally posted by: humanityrising
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: and14263

I brought my viewpoint. You lied and created a false narrative that does not exist.


I'm sorry, what is your viewpoint other than that mine is wrong. Care to contribute?



So what magic country has never done any wrong that should not be hated?


It seems you are not understanding the OP. (Or choosing not to)

I made my point clear, you can go back in time and find atrocities committed by every people under the Sun. So everyone is evil by your method.


Well in that case we are making the same exact point. *sigh*



You are biased and only factor in the negative and not the positive.


What is my bias? One could say the same about any country, especially one who is a citizen of that country(if your irony detector isn't even flinching, it might be broken). You might do well to read A Theory Of Everything by Ken Wilber. You seem unaware of the concept of circumstance.
edit on 21-5-2015 by humanityrising because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 21 2015 @ 05:24 AM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: khnum
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...there is no nation on earth that you would give a sainthood.


No but most countrys dont claim saint hood like the USA.

You're exactly right. I hate the fact that politicians just won't get down to the jiggy and say, "We're gonna kill the crap outta them guys because they're on the wrong side and we hate them for who they are and what they stand for." They're just a bunch of p***y's.

You get a guy that's tired of being in harm's way ... and he'll throw the rules of engagement into the dirt and do what needs to get done. Later, when Chelsea Manning decides to release a video of 'the job' gettin' done properly, I'll be sitting in my armchair cheering away like a madman.



posted on May, 21 2015 @ 05:26 AM
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originally posted by: johnwick
a reply to: humanityrising

So your premise is, that a bunch of drugged out kids that were thrown in the middle of hell against their will acted badly?


Nope.



BTW that is nothing compared to many other nations.


Except pretty much every country in Northern Europe that knows how to behave, and have non-interventionist foreign policy. Their quality of life far surpasses ours as a result.




America ain't perfect, but its better than any of the others.


Wow and I'm the biased one. Ever think that billions of people might beg to differ with you?


I wasn't expecting the exact people I described in the OP to show up, but I'm glad you all did, as you're proving your stereotype splendidly. Thank you.



posted on May, 21 2015 @ 05:27 AM
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originally posted by: humanityrising
Except pretty much every country in Northern Europe that knows how to behave, and have non-interventionist foreign policy. Their quality of life far surpasses ours as a result.

I agree, France would never have anything to do with the Vietnam War.


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posted on May, 21 2015 @ 05:30 AM
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originally posted by: humanityrising
Wow and I'm the biased one. Ever think that billions of people might beg to differ with you?

So now you speak for billions? Hilarious.

America is still considered the best country in the world by the billions you speak of, and is the country more people want to move to than anywhere else.

Hilarious how wrong you are. France started the Vietnam war .. America is the bad guy.



posted on May, 21 2015 @ 05:36 AM
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edit on 21-5-2015 by humanityrising because: Embarrassing







 
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